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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:22 am

TK 739ERs sky interior....

see: http://www.airporthaber.com/thy-ye-m...ltuk-tasarimli-ucaklar-34949h.html (Turkish Article/Cabin Photos)

Quoting TK787 (Reply 49):
Off to JFK today on DL73, full again.

Have good flight. Good you stocked up supplies....
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:32 pm

TK has a new website...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:40 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 49):
Off to JFK today on DL73, full again.

Have a good flight  
Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 51):
TK has a new website...

Yup, but I can't find Netherlands in the main page (>_
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:01 am

Thanks guys, back in NYC,
As usual, as always, another routine DL73 flight, identical to the previous one
Just to mix things up we ordered a "Gluten free and a Moslem meal" just to see if we get better than the regular service;
-we get served first in Y;
-and both meals were better, especially the second meal (that ugly Pizza thing);
for Gluten free; it is a cumin chicken salad, rice roll, pineapples and grapes
for Moslem meal; it is grilled zucchini, eggplant, red pepper sandwich and red grapes.

Other observations;
-I saw huge lines of cars both at SAW and IST' entrance road shoulders. It is ugly and dangerous. I imagine people waiting to pick up pax but not willing to pay for airport parking.
Is there any plans to build cell phone parking lots at these airports?
-JFK Terminal 4 passport control and luggage pickup was a nightmare. Over an hour to get through, and our belt had 3 DL heavy flights on it, bags on top of each other 3 high.

About the interior pics of TK 737-900ER;
Looks very sharp and modern era European, well done TK!
We can definitely expect more 738, 739 orders since some TK 738s are getting older.
On the photos, finally, they sent someone with a good wide angle camera and taste for framing. I wonder if that the photographer is from that website? We will never know since they don't give any credits.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:13 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 53):
-and both meals were better, especially the second meal (that ugly Pizza thing);
for Gluten free; it is a cumin chicken salad, rice roll, pineapples and grapes
for Moslem meal; it is grilled zucchini, eggplant, red pepper sandwich and red grapes.

I usually order Kosher meals when flying airlines that are known to have poor catering, they are mostly more filling and taste better. I guess with certain airlines it's better to order special meals as you did.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 53):
-JFK Terminal 4 passport control and luggage pickup was a nightmare. Over an hour to get through, and our belt had 3 DL heavy flights on it, bags on top of each other 3 high.

Every time I pass through JFK, I remember to appreciate IST.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 53):
On the photos, finally, they sent someone with a good wide angle camera and taste for framing. I wonder if that the photographer is from that website? We will never know since they don't give any credits

I think those pics were taken in the U.S. Most likely by Boeing.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:53 pm

Quoting tcm (Reply 50):
TK 739ERs sky interior....



According to some sources on the Internet, all B737-900ER will have a "Premium"-cabin (+10cm more leg-room, PTV etc.) for longer flights to Africa. Any idea about the configuration (C/Y)?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:14 pm

Quoting debonair (Reply 55):
Any idea about the configuration (C/Y)?

4 rows of 2x2 J/C seating, comfort class seats in leather with PTV screens in arm-rests. Y seats have also IFE. Same cabin setting as the new A321s, my understanding is that the B739ERs have a slightly better pitch in both classes and that the new B738s will also feature this cabin product.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:55 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 53):
-JFK Terminal 4 passport control and luggage pickup was a nightmare. Over an hour to get through, and our belt had 3 DL heavy flights on it, bags on top of each other 3 high.

Well JFK is JFK, however if you want a big help suggest you sign up for for the US CBP Global Entry Program. No waiting in lines, just walk up to the kiosk and clear yourself.
http://www.globalentry.gov/about.html

As a bonus if you have a AMEX Platinum card, they refund you the $100 processing fee.

Quoting tcm (Reply 54):
I usually order Kosher meals when flying airlines that are known to have poor catering, they are mostly more filling and taste better. I guess with certain airlines it's better to order special meals as you did.

   I've had several folks involved in catering over the years mention one should order a Kosher meal.

Not only as KSML likely more filling and taste better, the food is fresher and the meal is special made to order within a few hours of departure, not unlike regular meals which are made on a massive conveyor line like often a day or two prior.
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:10 pm

Quoting tcm (Reply 50):
TK 739ERs sky interior....

see: http://www.airporthaber.com/thy-ye-m...ltuk-tasarimli-ucaklar-34949h.html (Turkish Article/Cabin Photos)


Fab interior one of the best Ive seen . Would love to see these on longer European routes.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:51 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 51):

TK has a new website...

fleet page is empty...nice work tk
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:39 am

 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:02 am

TK first 8 months results published on company website.

Pax up 10% to 21.2mn

LF down 2.4 to 71.6

ASK up 23.9% to 52.7bn

RPK up 19.9% to 37.7bn

Freight up 21.9% to 246659t

Although much slower compared to 2010, growth is still in double digits. At least LF recovered to above 70pts with summer kicking in.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:15 am

Pegasus Airlines announced their service to PRN. They will operate three flights per week SAW-PRN, starting October 17th.

-
http://airlineroute.net/2011/09/14/pc-sawprn-oct11/

[Edited 2011-09-15 01:20:39]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:52 am

Quoting bahadir (Reply 59):
fleet page is empty...nice work tk

Turkish Airlines surely knows how to get money off passengers, I wanted to book a flight from Amsterdam to Islamabad for a friend of mine. The price was €797 and I get an error saying I need to try it again later.
Yesterday evening, I tried it again and the fare was dropped to €768, but this time I got an error saying "the fare couldn't be found".
Today, the fares are increased to €900 and it is possible to purchase the tickets?!

[Edited 2011-09-15 02:52:59]
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:42 am

Quoting tk1244 (Reply 63):
Turkish Airlines surely knows how to get money off passengers, I wanted to book a flight from Amsterdam to Islamabad for a friend of mine. The price was €797 and I get an error saying I need to try it again later.
Yesterday evening, I tried it again and the fare was dropped to €768, but this time I got an error saying "the fare couldn't be found".
Today, the fares are increased to €900 and it is possible to purchase the tickets?!

Buying tickets on Turkish has always been more affordable outside of TK.com
In last 3-4 bookings I ended up buying tickets on kayak or Expedia or Travelocity .. TK's booking engine on the old website has been mediocre at best..
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:59 am

Some W11 changes for TK;
-I see a lot of planned A319 to 737-800 type capacity increase changes are shelved. (due to possible global downturn?)
-JFK flights back to all 773ER, instead of 777/333 combo.
-739ERs and 333s freeing up 332s. ( for what?)
http://airlineroute.net/2011/09/15/tk-w11update2-2
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:03 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 69):
-739ERs and 333s freeing up 332s. ( for what?)

Maybe MNL?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:49 pm

I was reading an article about Air India couldn't pay its ordered Dreamliners. Is it possible for TK to grab this opportunity and "take over" Air India's ordered 787s? How realistic is this possibility?

[Edited 2011-09-15 10:52:15 by srbmod]
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:49 pm

Hi, can anyone tell me about flying standby on TK? What are yout experiences? What are the chances of an upgrade on ZED travel?
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:51 pm

IST-MNL 4940nm, so possible with A330-200 (though not likely possible with A330-300). What about Houston (5551nm), Boston (4196nm), Detroit (4618nm), all mentioned recently?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:05 pm

Turkish ATLASJET in Finnish court to pay 2.5mio Euro to AIR FINLAND compensation (appeal-case):

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-2565...mln-euro-appeal-case-to-start.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:33 pm

Quoting ammunition (Reply 72):
Hi, can anyone tell me about flying standby on TK? What are yout experiences? What are the chances of an upgrade on ZED travel?

They seem to be quite generous to their own. Especially, TK Pilots. Maybe a fellow TK staff member can be of more help?

Quoting debonair (Reply 74):
Turkish ATLASJET in Finnish court to pay 2.5mio Euro to AIR FINLAND compensation (appeal-case):

Looks like Air Finland is after easy money.

[Edited 2011-09-15 10:52:42 by srbmod]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:47 pm

Quoting ammunition (Reply 72):
Hi, can anyone tell me about flying standby on TK? What are yout experiences? What are the chances of an upgrade on ZED travel?

out of IST it is very painful during summer. they have dedicated standby counter where TK's "very behaving" staff is skipping the lines, yelling at the checking agent and where you get accepted 20min prior STD and have to run like *** in order to catch your flight.
I travel a lot on standby or confirmed duty tickets with TK and out of IST from now on I try to avoid it. It is not easy, because the staff (TGS) is not trained very well with handling other airlines tickets.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:49 am

Just wondering what their current plans, if any, about expansion to Australia. In 2009, they said they would like to fly into Australia from 2011... which is almost over.. I flew them last month, short haul, and they would be more then welcome in Melbourne.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:23 am

According to KE website, they use 744 for IST flights. Is it just for a short period of time or will go on more?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:12 am

Quoting ammunition (Reply 68):

Hi, can anyone tell me about flying standby on TK? What are yout experiences? What are the chances of an upgrade on ZED travel?

Stylo's experiences are similar to mine in terms of TGS personnel not being well trained in the process. Prior to that I was getting trained like a king (wearing the pilots uniform may be) till the plane. Once you are in the plane, unless you know the captain you are supposed to take your seat . In my last flight I was hoping to get an upgrade to Comfort Class with only one (yes 1) passenger on it. Never happened..
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:29 pm

Quoting emrecan (Reply 74):

772 back from November.

[Edited 2011-09-16 06:39:48]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:17 pm

What happened to A340 that got stuck in India ? has it come back ? fixed ? engines changed ? Results of investigation ?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:18 pm

TK just ordered 35 B737!

But what about widebodies?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:38 pm

Quoting Mict (Reply 78):

That's an old order... The first 2 739 and 2 738 will be delivered this year...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:47 pm

Quoting Mict (Reply 78):
http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...ish-airlines-orders-35-737ngs-0913

I think this is old news. No new orders, this is an order from 2010. TK is to start receiving them and someone misunderstood the whole thing.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:15 pm

Regards to HNA stake in ACT forcing company to rebrand, dosent the 1% majority allow ACT to have its own say, ACT giving up professional livery to some inhouse shoddy Chinese scheme though Chinese can do way better, should not be acceptable, infact ACT should have used their 1% clout to tell HNA this is not on and come up with a professional look for what is basically a joint rebranded company and not simply HNA or ACT.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:31 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 81):
Regards to HNA stake in ACT forcing company to rebrand, dosent the 1% majority allow ACT to have its own say, ACT giving up professional livery to some inhouse shoddy Chinese scheme though Chinese can do way better, should not be acceptable, infact ACT should have used their 1% clout to tell HNA this is not on and come up with a professional look for what is basically a joint rebranded company and not simply HNA or ACT.

I agree that the brand is quite off, but does anybody really care about the branding of a cargo airline besides a few a.netters? The only "full" cargo company's that needs to maintain its brand would be FedEx, DHL, UPS and possibly Cargolux. I think ACT is doing good by not spending millions of dollars to get a fancy brand for the small fleet they are currently operating. In that case, I think MNG is in more need to update its current brand.
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:49 pm

The 51/49 split at ACT is simply due foreign ownership regulations. ACT in essence is HNA way to get in the backdoor to Europe with the ability to leverage Turkish traffic rights, and utilize Istanbul as a cargo transfer hub. ACT has committed its future to play such a role for its new Chinese partner.

And no neither cargo, nor its customers could care what the plane looks like. Only folks like us here on A.net have opinions on such matters.
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:48 pm

MNG livery looks fine to me and so does ACT, both simple yet professionally done you can see good sense used to create them, for ACT to move from that to the thoughtless Yangtze scheme is a bad move even if no one cares, and if they i.e ACT dont care now they did in past, otherwise the ACT livery could've simply been an all white plane with randomly chosen font, not the thought process that went into creating their current look, which I find very well executed, infact I would rate it amongst the best liveries for a relatively unknown cargo airline that could have had just a plain jane look.

If I was in ACT I would have told HNA this is not acceptable, as a rebranded airline it needs a complete new look, be it a simple Eurowhite livery with a nicely done tail and titles, or even something as boring as Aero Logic.

[Edited 2011-09-17 11:53:59]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:42 pm

Some news about Pegasus...

2012 will see the delivery of 14 additional B737.800's, all factory fresh.
2013 will see the delivery of the first B787's ordered to start LongHaul ops.

Pegasus is rumoured to join Oneworld somewhere next year...
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:18 pm

Quoting A330 (Reply 85):
2013 will see the delivery of the first B787's ordered to start LongHaul ops.

Two different Pegasus;
Are you talking about Pegasus Airlines of Turkey or Pegasus Aviation Leasing?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:42 pm

Just back from AMS, brought ex-Etihad frequent flyers to the airport for their TK flight. Hope they stick with TK (A)

Quoting TK787 (Reply 86):

Yup I think it is a miscommunication, Pegasus airlines has no additional aircraft on order according to the followings websites:
http://www.planespotters.net/Airline/Pegasus
http://ch-aviation.ch/aircraft.php

Furthermore, there are rumours (according to Airporthaber and airkule) that TK is interested in buying Montenegro Airlines. Although I don't really believe it, it looks like TK is 'interested' in all ex-Yugoslavian airlines

[Edited 2011-09-17 15:47:55]
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:51 pm

Too bad they didnt take JAT, that is the only ex-Yugo carrier I wanted to see turned around.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:26 am

Sorry for the rant, but this in my opinion would have been the perfect livery for My Cargo. It has colours of both HNA group Red/Yellow and ACT Blue/Green/Black/Red, the blue would be darker ofcourse, no need for any logo either and not identifying either airline, just merging their colours.



[Edited 2011-09-17 22:19:09]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:10 am

Y'all need to get used to the ugly color scheme by Chinese.. Looks like Hainan just acquired MNG technic and they are interested in MNG airlines as well..
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:34 pm

Hi guys, does anyone know which aircraft operated flight TK0710 (IST-ISB) today? Thank you in advance!
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:02 pm

Quoting TK1244 (Reply 91):

Hi guys, does anyone know which aircraft operated flight TK0710 (IST-ISB) today? Thank you in advance!


TK1244

Looks like it was a B738, TC-JHB.

See: http://data.flight24.com/flights/tk710/
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:22 pm

Quoting tcm (Reply 92):

Thank you  
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:45 am

Plying around with the above design came up with this.

 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:12 am

Quoting debonair (Reply 70):


Read this and without sounding too biased, thought this (assuming the evidence presented is true) was appaling behaviour from Air Finland. I'm even worried about the injustice of how new evidence presented to the court judges was accepted yet all the Turkish sides' counter claims were not.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:17 am

Just in from four TK flights - I think im up to about 80 TK flights since 1 Jan '10. Some comments:

1. New website looks great - although I have some brower compatibility issues when looking at it on my work computer and I cant click past the gateway page. Not sure why, maybe its a problem my end.

2. I have said it before and so have many others, the IST lounge is jaw-droping. So good. I like free food as much as the next person, however people go a bit nuts with all the free food and drink. Also the place is jammed packed during the morning and evening rushes. My thought is that TK should overhaul Miles+Smiles (with a change to name to start!) to start rewarding true frequent flyers. You can get IST lounge entry on 25,000 status miles, its absolutely nothing. TK gold is at 40k and black is 80k. By contrast, you need 150k status miles on LH for gold. By creating a program with higher thresholds, TK can then start to give real priority to its frequent travellers. Black should be for super frequent-flyers and they should get the works a la LH and the HON prgram - however at the moment there is no real difference between gold and black.

3. I know that the departure screens at IST do not always reflect reality, so I waited until "last call" to go to my gate. When I got to the gate - which said "last call" - there was no plane at the gate and the security line hadn't even opened. About 20 minutes later the plane arrived and passengers got off - the sign still said "last call". The sign then moved back to "wait in lounge" and then - finally - to 1 hour delay. Everyone can tolerate a delay, however to be kept at the gate with no information at all with a sign that says "last call" is just lousy.

4. Flights to BEY are often chaotic - they are always full, lots of carry-on and literally hundreds of babies and children. Evenyone was stressed and hot because we were going from Gate 213 (its a crappy gate with very limited seating) and many people had to sit on the floor. On the plane it turns out that a woman in a wheelchair had been given an "A" seat which se could not get into because of her leg. Should have been easily solved by asking somebody in a "C" seat to swap, however an argument took place been the woman's son and the cabin crew. The TGS supervisor came on board and there was more loud voices, the TGS agent saying that they should have booked J if they had such issues with leg room due to the leg. The son was overly dramatic saying that they show no repspect to his mother, etc etc etc. More loud voices from TGS. The situation was handled pretty badly, despite the fact that they were clearly difficult passengers.

4. The flight to BEY was a leased 321 that I have been on before and dont like - its non-standard and really quite crappy. Not sure where it came from but the cabin is old looking and the chairs are uncomfortable. Maybe its the BMI bird, but im not sure. The crew were stessed and the flight was a bad one.

5. Coming back from BEY it was also a leased 321 - this time a Kingfisher bird. What a nice one! Really smart cabin with PTV, feels like a WB. The cabin crew were happy, really good. An afternoon flight with the sun coming through, such a pleasure.

6. Flying out of IST this morning my gate was 501 - I had never seen gates at IST in the 500s. It turns out there is a new set of gates without airbridges - to compete with the dreaded 300-315 gates. The new area is not bad at all, much more pleasant than the 300-315 waiting area. My flight was at 0755 and the boards went to "boarding" at 0645. Boarding actually started at 0730, although of course by that time the moniters had been on "last call" for 20 minutes. It was no big issue this morning as we left more or less on time, but why cant the boards match reality? Flight was great, no complaints.

Im a big TK-fan and things get better and better all the time, but flying regularly with TK is a mix of soaring highs and a few lows. But its good to watch, because management is clearly switched on and no doubt a lot of the TGS/ IST issues will be tightened up in the coming years.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:35 am

Have just been doing some research on the Kingfisher 321 - I stand corrected, it is not leased and was never actually delivered to Kingfisher. However it was clearly decked out to Kingfisher requirements, as evidenced by the cabin interior, PTVs and Kingfisher seat buckles. Is this the only Kingfisher ordered 321 that TK picked up? I was on TC-JMI. The seat buckles with the Kingfishers on them should be changed - it wouldnt cost much although probably not that many people notice/ recognise that it is the Kingfisher logo.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:50 am

Quoting ISTGRU (Reply 96):
My thought is that TK should overhaul Miles+Smiles (with a change to name to start!) to start rewarding true frequent flyers. You can get IST lounge entry on 25,000 status miles, its absolutely nothing.

Very true, qualification/retention levels are too low. As a result there are far to many Elites. TK is lousy in recognizing status both in the air and on the ground. TK Staff, their families or friends get far more attention than paying customers and this is especially annoying during irrops. LX/LH are better with their SENs or HONs and TK could learn a few tricks in CRM (in the business sense) from them.

Quoting ISTGRU (Reply 96):
I know that the departure screens at IST do not always reflect reality

The opposite also happens, I always check with the staff at the lounge reception before leaving.

Quoting ISTGRU (Reply 96):
Flights to BEY are often chaotic

Will experience the chaos soon. Booked my flights to BEY and looking forward to dine at the Souk El Tayeb  Flights to the Middle East and Africa often involve adventurous boarding experiences 
Quoting ISTGRU (Reply 97):
Have just been doing some research on the Kingfisher 321 - I stand corrected, it is not leased and was never actually delivered to Kingfisher. However it was clearly decked out to Kingfisher requirements, as evidenced by the cabin interior, PTVs and Kingfisher seat buckles. Is this the only Kingfisher ordered 321 that TK picked up? I was on TC-JMI. The seat buckles with the Kingfishers on them should be changed - it wouldnt cost much although probably not that many people notice/ recognise that it is the Kingfisher logo.

AFAIK, TK has four of these. They were my favorite until the new A231s arrived.

Quoting ISTGRU (Reply 96):
Im a big TK-fan and things get better and better all the time, but flying regularly with TK is a mix of soaring highs and a few lows. But its good to watch, because management is clearly switched on and no doubt a lot of the TGS/ IST issues will be tightened up in the coming years.

Despite some inconsistencies TK offers a decent product. The new lounge in IST and the new cabin product are signs of commitment to quality. Let's hope that the human aspect will follow suit.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2011

Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:40 pm

Quoting tcm (Reply 98):
TK Staff, their families or friends get far more attention than paying customers and this is especially annoying during irrops.



I strongly disagree with this.We and our families doesnt have any priority or attention during the check in process.Infact we have right for a free ticket but cant be booked or reserved before hand so we can ride on the plane "only if there is empty seats" on board.We often get bumped out from the flight when a customer comes in.Many times I 've beeen accepted at the very last moment to the airplane(should be at least 30 minutes before in domestic flights but as you know its TGS) had to run through gate with a baby on my hand and and troller on the other and yet my luggege (which we had all my baby needs)wasnt loaded to the plane on time and had to wait until next day.
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