WOW!!! What a great year for DFW
! First QF
, now EK
! Way to go, North Texas
While I knew this was potentially on the horizon, I did not expect this to come so soon - certainly not after IAH
went 2X daily, as I thought they'd have Texas pretty well-covered for now. I also expected EY
|Quoting commavia (Reply 1):|
This may be the straw that breaks the camel's back for KLM or Lufthansa, though - both airlines have struggled since AA/BA got their ATI/JV and bolstered DFW-LHR, and I'm not sure if the market will grow sufficiently large sufficiently quickly to support not only 8-9 daily flights to Europe, but also now a nonstop to the Mid East.
|Quoting commavia (Reply 44):|
I definitely think KLM will be the first to blink. The resulting injection of new capacity to the Mid East, India and South Asia will pull traffic off of Lufthansa and KLM, but there is still enough residual traffic heading specifically to Europe, coupled with the connections that will still exist over Frankfurt/Amsterdam, that I think at least one of them should still be able to make DFW work - and I think that one airline is Lufthansa, not KLM.
|Quoting jr (Reply 49):|
This is also going to make KLM's "temporary" winter suspension of their AMS route to DFW permanent.
|Quoting gdg9 (Reply 66):|
KLM apparently has these loaded up for summer schedule... I would have to wonder though... I think EK will hurt LH's India feed at DFW too.
These were the first thoughts to cross my mind. The KLM flights are expected to resume shortly after the EK
flights begin. IF
it does return for the summer, then it will be the "test period" to see if DFW
can work as a seasonal market, or KLM may abandon it alltogether.
Unfortunately, the reality is that KLM is highly dependent on connecting traffic from DFW
. With EK
now in the game, alongside the strength of AA
, a non-daily flight, and without a huge SkyTeam hub to back it up, I am not entirely certain there is room for them. Who knows?
|Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 16):|
How? The traffic flows that AA and EK would/will serve on DFW-DXB are totally different. AA's massive hub is at DFW and EK's is at DXB.
Exactly. If anything, AA
should consider AUH
and not DXB
, assuming they could strengthen their ties with EY
|Quoting peanuts (Reply 17):|
DL will have to restart non-stop US-India flights to remain viable against EK. (which ironically would also hurt its partner KL @ AMS).
East-Africa should also be on DL's to-do list. (e.g. NBO if issues get resolved).
Delta essentially has no US gateways to make this work, maybe except for DTW
, which I do not see happening. They tried it from ATL
to Bombay, both of which failed. MSP
definitely not and SEA
is out of the question now with EK
. They've realized it's silly for them to chase after low-yielding Indian traffic when they can deploy their longer-range aircraft on far more profitable routes from their US hubs that aren't flooded with competition. The CDG
transfer hubs work just fine for them, especially since they are connected to most major metropolitan US cities and the largest points in India.
|Quoting kaitak (Reply 57):|
There's a big Indian population in Vancouver and that was probably a big factor; the airline will be looking to attract a fair bit of traffic from YVR; with the recent spat between Canada and the UAE, this is the best way for EK to tap that market.
Yup. Definitely a pull here.
|Quoting EricR (Reply 69):|
Agreed. While Chicago is a large metro area with a lot of business traffic, there is a lot of competition. AA & AI have direct flights from ORD to India. RJ & EY have direct flights from ORD to the Middle East (not sure if QR still offers cargo service to ORD). SEA and DFW do not face this type of competition.
is VERY well covered by a plethora of Asian, European, Middle Eastern, and Indian subcontinent carriers (PK and AI