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LAXintl
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Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:10 pm

I understand as of 12EDT Republic Airlines had cancelled 81 flights, while merely operating 27 during the AM hours..

Anyone have any further?
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:14 pm

Have not heard anything. My report this evening is still showing ontime at 1710 EDT.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:23 pm

Which side of the house did you see the CXLS F9 or US.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:29 pm

Looks to be mostly US - PHL/DCA/CLT.

Cancels are up to 93.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:34 pm

Obviously not the weather:

KPHL 061654Z 30006KT 10SM CLR 18/01 A3037 RMK AO2 SLP282 T01780006 $

KPHL 061724Z 0618/0724 30008KT P6SM SKC
FM070600 34003KT P6SM SKC
FM071200 01005KT P6SM SKC
FM071600 05004KT P6SM SCT120
FM072000 VRB03KT P6SM FEW120


KDCA 061652Z 07003KT 10SM FEW045 19/08 A3040 RMK AO2 SLP293 T01890078

KDCA 061720Z 0618/0718 VRB04KT P6SM FEW050
FM062200 VRB04KT P6SM SKC
FM071600 06005KT P6SM FEW040


KCLT 061652Z 09008KT 10SM CLR 23/10 A3035 RMK AO2 SLP271 T02330100

KCLT 061726Z 0618/0718 08007KT P6SM SKC
FM070100 VRB03KT P6SM SKC
FM071400 05007KT P6SM SKC
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:38 pm

Still showing an ontime report. It is only attributable to Computer System Crash at HDQ. It has been down since around 0500 EDT this morning and keeps going up and down.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:53 pm

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 5):
Still showing an ontime report. It is only attributable to Computer System Crash at HDQ. It has been down since around 0500 EDT this morning and keeps going up and down.

Since it appears to be almost exclusively US operations, is there any reason the computer system being down would only affect that and not branded operations? I have no idea how the computer/dispatch operations at RJET work, so this is an honest question.
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:00 pm

Quoting MUWarriors (Reply 6):
Since it appears to be almost exclusively US operations, is there any reason the computer system being down would only affect that and not branded operations? I have no idea how the computer/dispatch operations at RJET work, so this is an honest question.

It could have something to do with the interface to DECS. DECS is the software used by USAirways for Dispatch functions and its used by express stations to pull up flight releases for the flight crews. Since most of the Regionals use a different software for releases than DECS, you have to get the two systems talking to each other, and it doesn't always work.

I believe that Republic uses Sabre Dispatch Monitor for their flight releases (Which is what most regional airlines and a couple of majors, noteably JetBlue use). Sabre Dispatch Manager and Sabre DECS often have problems talking to each other, and since USAirways won't help the regionals solve the problem, the regionals are left to deal with the consequences when something like this happens.
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:01 pm

The report I saw was only for Republic, so the 170 and 190 flying they do for US and F9 is affected.
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:35 pm

The PHL website Flight information screen shows several Republic flights either cancelled or delayed significantly on the US side but the F9 side is on time.

Incidentally, almost all the other flights into or out of PHL are on time.

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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:45 pm

ther was defintely some effect on the F9 side as i had stranded travelers calling in early this a.m. from SEA and DRO ,saying F9 bascially wasnt goping anywhere for half the day due to computer outage!
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:17 pm

Quoting apodino (Reply 9):
The PHL website Flight information screen shows several Republic flights either cancelled or delayed significantly on the US side but the F9 side is on time.

Not related at all. The F9 MKE flights from PHL are operated by RP, not YX. This was specific to the YX certificate.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:20 pm

Quoting floridaflyboy (Reply 11):
This was specific to the YX certificate.

For the sake of completely nitpicking, do you mean the RW certificate? The YX certificate is dead.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:10 pm

Cancel count is up to 148 as of 5pm Eastern.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:15 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 12):
For the sake of completely nitpicking, do you mean the RW certificate? The YX certificate is dead.

The RW certificate code was changed to YX when RJET purchased Midwest.
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:26 pm

There was a rumor floating around that Republic was near bankruptcy. Or this something between Republic and US Airways? I checked and Republic showed around 30 aircraft flying right now - rather scatter routes mainly northern US..
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:35 pm

Lord, you people cracked me up. Dispatch computers went down or some such.....not "OMG certain doom and bankruptcy!"
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:35 pm

Quoting dave2 (Reply 15):
There was a rumor floating around that Republic was near bankruptcy. Or this something between Republic and US Airways? I checked and Republic showed around 30 aircraft flying right now - rather scatter routes mainly northern US..

Even if RJET declared bankruptcy today (and that isn't happening any time soon), it would not have an immediate affect on operations. This is just a Republic (not Chatauqua, not Shuttle America, not F9) computer issue that has caused several delayed or cancelled flights today.
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:53 pm

I noticed that F9's MKE and MCI flights were 5-6 hours delayed today at MSP. The one US-coded MSP-PHL operated by YX appeared to operate on time.
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:57 pm

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 18):
I noticed that F9's MKE and MCI flights were 5-6 hours delayed today at MSP. The one US-coded MSP-PHL operated by YX appeared to operate on time.

I noticed the same at OKC. The outbound morning E190 flight was nearly 6 hours late, but the Airbus flights were on time. If it isn't canceled, the evening inbound E190 will be about 7 hours late.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:21 am

Quoting dave2 (Reply 15):
There was a rumor floating around that Republic was near bankruptcy. Or this something between Republic and US Airways? I checked and Republic showed around 30 aircraft flying right now - rather scatter routes mainly northern US..

LOL! Republic is not near bankruptcy. Let's put that rumor to rest. There was indeed system issues, and Republic is working very hard to fix it. Nobody wants these types of problems, but they do happen from time to time. In fact, I can't think of one major airline that has not had a complete mess happen with system issues.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:45 am

GEG had both inbounds from DEN canceled today and those are F9 operated. Coincidence?
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:50 am

Quoting n7371f (Reply 21):
GEG had both inbounds from DEN canceled today and those are F9 operated. Coincidence?

Unless there was weather in GEG I doubt it was a coincidence. There were bad winds in DEN today and several of F9's flights diverted to COS. F9 did operate some Airbus flights for the E190's this morning. I noticed a PHX and ABQ were switched to Airbus. Maybe GEG was boooked light today.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:06 pm

Quoting n7371f (Reply 21):
GEG had both inbounds from DEN canceled today and those are F9 operated. Coincidence?

Both DEN - GEG flights were canceled yesterday due to GEG weather
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:03 pm

Quoting mikefrommke (Reply 17):
Quoting dave2 (Reply 15):
There was a rumor floating around that Republic was near bankruptcy. Or this something between Republic and US Airways? I checked and Republic showed around 30 aircraft flying right now - rather scatter routes mainly northern US..

Even if RJET declared bankruptcy today (and that isn't happening any time soon), it would not have an immediate affect on operations. This is just a Republic (not Chatauqua, not Shuttle America, not F9) computer issue that has caused several delayed or cancelled flights today.

Is this computer problem confirmed? Hard to believe so many flights would be cancelled due to computer issue. Delays and a few cancellations possible but the counts were getting rather high for a while.
 
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:44 pm

Looks like the cancel tally on Thursday was 167, nearly 1/3 of the days total schedule.
Much of what did operate experienced huge delays with OT performance being merely 16%. Some 210 of flights were 45+min late.

About 13 residual cancels today.
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RE: Republic Airlines Operational Meltdown 06Oct?

Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:33 pm

Quoting kingcavalier (Reply 23):

Both DEN - GEG flights were canceled yesterday due to GEG weather

Wow. Must've been fog and with runways 21/3 out for line-of-sight construction, 25/7 doesn't have the higher CAT landing capabilities. Thanks for following up.

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