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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:44 am

Quoting vaustralie (Reply 145):
Sorry if this has been discussed before now, I couldn't find it on this thread :P But I was wondering, what are your opinions? Do you think they could go international with their A330s?

Definitely, and I think highly likely... In fact, I could even see their next two deliveries (coming straight from Airbus IIRC) being fitted with their international product and starting international services within the next 6 months.

Quoting vaustralie (Reply 145):
Sorry, I'm a bit behind. If a DJ plane is painted new colours, has it also got the cabin refit?

I think so -- all the work is being done in CHC, and the entire fleet will be updated by mid-January.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:18 am

Originally i would have said yes to the international routes but i am thinking NO.Aircraft 3 will most likely go on MEL-PER and aircraft 4 and 5 on BNE-SYD-MEL.If VA really wish to pounce on QF this is now the time to get more business travellers over to them on domestic services.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:24 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 150):
I think so -- all the work is being done in CHC, and the entire fleet will be updated by mid-January.

I've got flights on DJ on Jan 14 on the BNE-SYD-BNE so hoping my flights will have the new product. If they do I'll aim to post a trip report. I'm excited about trying their new product - will certainly be a welcome change from their product when I last flew them at Easter to Mackay.

Has anyone experienced their new business class on their 737 fleet? I'm going to Cairns for 3 nights and going to be using my flyer points to snag a seat in business class on both flights betwen BNE ad CNS. Also, is the business class on their E190's the same as their 737's? Is it 2-2 or 2-1?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:27 am

I agree with eaglefarm4.

Virgin need to try to put everything into attacking Qantas' doemstic market share. Outbound long-haul sales will follow if and when Australian customers value their Virgin FF account as much as their Qantas one.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:21 am

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 151):
Originally i would have said yes to the international routes but i am thinking NO.Aircraft 3 will most likely go on MEL-PER and aircraft 4 and 5 on BNE-SYD-MEL.If VA really wish to pounce on QF this is now the time to get more business travellers over to them on domestic services.

That's actually a very strong argument, and you could likely be onto something. Either way, if they are expecting delivery in the first half of next year then they will have already locked in the seats/systems that the planes will fly with... So if they have chosen an International product, and want to use them on Domestic for a while then there could be some strong incentive for business travelers to make the switch...

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 152):
I've got flights on DJ on Jan 14 on the BNE-SYD-BNE so hoping my flights will have the new product. If they do I'll aim to post a trip report. I'm excited about trying their new product - will certainly be a welcome change from their product when I last flew them at Easter to Mackay.

All aircraft will have the new product by mid-January apparently, so you should get the new seats. I lucked out and got a BSI plane for my single DJ flight this year, and it was great! Very fresh and energetic...

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 152):
Has anyone experienced their new business class on their 737 fleet? I'm going to Cairns for 3 nights and going to be using my flyer points to snag a seat in business class on both flights betwen BNE ad CNS. Also, is the business class on their E190's the same as their 737's? Is it 2-2 or 2-1?

The seats looked good when I walked past them, and the FA's seemed to be highly interactive (chatting with a couple heading on their honeymoon for half an hour etc) but I was stuck in Y   The E-Jets are still 2-2 in J, and are keeping the Y+ seats I think.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:41 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 154):
The E-Jets are still 2-2 in J, and are keeping the Y+ seats I think.

Are they recovering them in black/purple, or keeping the red seats?

Also, I presume the Y seats on the old fleet are being recovered since the old one had "Blue" embossed into them. Is this correct?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:21 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 150):
Definitely, and I think highly likely... In fact, I could even see their next two deliveries (coming straight from Airbus IIRC) being fitted with their international product and starting international services within the next 6 months.

Where do you think they would fly?

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 151):
Originally i would have said yes to the international routes

I think I have to agree here, although I would like to see them go international but I think that they will focus on getting QF customers from them, which, after this strike deal should be easy..

On another topic, is Obama flying AF1 into CBR next? week?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:47 am

Some more photo from the Air Australia lunch:



Shame they have such ugly crew   Looks fresh and profession goodluck to them!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:01 am

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 147):
Today's AFR reports that VA has decided not to exercise its option for a 6th 77W and will not launch BNE-AUH with its own metal as previously planned.

Unsurprising. While I see a future for VA on BNE-LAX particularly, I think it isn't likely to make anywhere near as much money as it expected on SYD-LAX. BNE-AUH smacks of desperation, but I'm surprised if they don't think there would be a market for SYD-SFO after QF leaving it.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:09 am

Quoting koruman (Reply 149):
I know that, but TruemanQLDs loyalty to Qantas seemed to be making him think the QF product was better!

Or maybe, unlike you, I dont use every possible opportunity to bash QF? Hmm... couldnt be!

Also, I was merely trying to point out that from all accounts QF/JQ services to HNL are full and QF have obviously decided any extra capacity would produce low yields and is not worth pursuing. Why fix something that isnt broke?


And loyalty to QF, hypocritical much, we havent stopped hearing about your loyalty to NZ and EY and whoever else takes your fancy at that current time, whichever best suits your argument to bash QF.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:11 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 157):
Some more photo from the Air Australia lunch:

Shame they have such ugly crew Looks fresh and profession goodluck to them!

Damn, thats a natural photogenic looking bunch. Glad to see they are allowed to have their hair down somewhat compared to certain other airlines.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:22 am

Quoting thegeek (Reply 158):
Today's AFR reports that VA has decided not to exercise its option for a 6th 77W and will not launch BNE-AUH with its own metal as previously planned.

Unsurprising. While I see a future for VA on BNE-LAX particularly, I think it isn't likely to make anywhere near as much money as it expected on SYD-LAX. BNE-AUH smacks of desperation, but I'm surprised if they don't think there would be a market for SYD-SFO after QF leaving it.

it was said on this forum a few weeks ago that BNE-SIN-AUH was not going to happen. It was said that SYD-AUH loads were a bit disappointing - does anyone know if they have improved?

Other international routes for A330s - weekend flights to DPS - substitute for 73Hs?

The joint venture between VA and EY was supposed to strengthen the route for both of them - it would help EY to have access to the DJ Frequent Flyer program. I think it would strengthen the route for EY is they could do BNE-AUH as a non stop.

As a thought - the VA plan to do BNE-SIN-AUH was really just a tech stop at SIN. If an A332 can do PER-AUH as a non stop, why not route the flight BNE-PER-AUH, so that Virgin could serve to Australian cities from the one flight? PER is not yet a city for EY. PER-AUH would be within the range of a new A332.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:50 am

Quoting SOLENT (Reply 133):
There was a white A340 parked at BNE (old Airport terminal) where Strategic/Air Australia park, when I flew in at 1630 yesterday. Who does it belong to.
Quoting 747m8te (Reply 137):
Adagold doing military charters

Doesn't the aircraft belong to Hi Fly?

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:36 am

Adagold are the operator and HI-FLY provide the 340.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:02 am

This EY A345 must have had a lot of spare fuel....

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:06 am

Quoting tayser (Reply 164):

Wonder if it deliberately asked ATC if it could make that route in the sky?  

I see this a fair bit on FlightRadar24, usually just hasnt shown that the plane has stopped in MEL. Could be wrong however, maybe MEL was closer for whatever reason and diverted then to ADL...
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:08 am

there's a big storm over the city now, it's diverted to ADL. Curious though - CBR is closer and on a tail wind - going back to ADL is headwind and flying back through the same storm which has stopped it from landing in MEL

there's a 738 from PER circling over Cape Otway as well.... LST is probably the closest airport for it
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:11 am

two ADL-MEL flights (one QF and DJ) are also now going back to ADL too.

And a JQ flight just landed in AVV... what happened to AVV being the diversionary airport for MEL?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:39 am

Yesterday I saw a V Australia getting a new Virgin Australia title on one of their 777s (VH-VPD) at LAX. Are they going to change the tail as well?

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:43 am

Dreamliner visit to coincide with Qantas birthday

I look forward to hearing the finer details about this!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:13 am

Was onboard one of DJs newly configured 738s the other day with new business class seats and new economy seats, has anyone noticed they have reduced the legroom? with the larger J cabin now (which is quite nice...far superior to the old premium seats!) the economy cabin (which is much more pleasing to the eye then the old cabin) still goes up to row 30, in the old configuration, exit rows were on row 14/15, now they are 13/14! so they have effectivly crammed the equivelant of an extra row behind the exits...legroom is noticably tighter seemingly as bad as TT! Was kinda hopeing with the newer slimmer seats we were going to gain a bit of legroom....damn!

Also was curious, this new configuration (have to check the rego) didn't have any seat back PTV??? is this no longer a feature of the new product? Or only on particular aircraft?

Quoting koruman (Reply 146):
Firstly, the Hawaiian product on this route is also a 767 for now, but their on-board product is not inferior to the Qantas one
Quoting koruman (Reply 149):
I know that, but TruemanQLDs loyalty to Qantas seemed to be making him think the QF product was better!
Quoting koruman (Reply 146):
(Minus because Qantas offers no IFE and Jetstar doesn't offer catering either).

Correction...they do have IFE! just not PTVs, they still have IFE though! Over head/Bulk head displays   and aren't JQ going to have Ipads onboard?

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 159):
And loyalty to QF, hypocritical much, we havent stopped hearing about your loyalty to NZ and EY and whoever else takes your fancy at that current time, whichever best suits your argument to bash QF.

Funny how some people think its good for one and not the other hey...hmmmm selective loyalty when it suits to bash...
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:42 am

Quoting 747m8te (Reply 170):
Was onboard one of DJs newly configured 738s the other day with new business class seats and new economy seats, has anyone noticed they have reduced the legroom? with the larger J cabin now (which is quite nice...far superior to the old premium seats!) the economy cabin (which is much more pleasing to the eye then the old cabin) still goes up to row 30, in the old configuration, exit rows were on row 14/15, now they are 13/14! so they have effectivly crammed the equivelant of an extra row behind the exits...legroom is noticably tighter seemingly as bad as TT! Was kinda hopeing with the newer slimmer seats we were going to gain a bit of legroom....damn!

Looks like I'll be buying the more flexible fare with DJ for my planned trip to Port Moresby with them for October next year - might just try that in an attempt to get a seat ahead of the wings with the extra bit of legroom......but thats if the international 738's are reconfigured by then.

But in the mean time, hopefully the seat pitch isnt too bad for the 90 minute flights on my flights to Sydney in January. Looking forward to the business class in March - aiming for a trip report pending approval of my 3 days leave when I ask my supervisor next month.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:24 pm

I see QF dropping HNL altogether in the future and handing that route to JQ. I hope VC is sucsessful on both BNE-HNL and MEL-HNL.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:37 pm

Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 172):
I see QF dropping HNL altogether in the future and handing that route to JQ. I hope VC is sucsessful on both BNE-HNL and MEL-HNL.
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No..its one of many cabin crews favourite holiday destinations...they will strike if that happens LOL

Actually I think this will eventually get the A330 service, hopefully sooner rather then later...maybe once the 787s arrive and QF get JQs A330s back.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:43 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 155):
Also, I presume the Y seats on the old fleet are being recovered since the old one had "Blue" embossed into them. Is this correct?

I thought they were getting the new Y seats from the BSI product? I might be wrong, but I'm fairly certain it's more than just recovering the old seats...

Quoting vaustralie (Reply 156):
Where do you think they would fly?

It's hard to say... If they got into bed with a Chinese carrier then they could link SYD/MEL/BNE to their hub (maybe HU and fly into HGH) or supplement services. NRT/HND could be a good destination out of MEL/BNE (and potentially SYD if they have the balls to face up to QF/JL on the route, they could also team up with NH to gather feed at the Tokyo end). They could compliment HA services to HNL out of MEL or BNE and deepen that relationship (and potentially damage VC in the process), they could even open up PER-AUH, which EY currently doesn't fly but EK does twice daily (to DXB). It's hard to say, though I do see it being based around building partnerships if they were to explore international with the A330s.

Quoting mikey (Reply 168):
Yesterday I saw a V Australia getting a new Virgin Australia title on one of their 777s (VH-VPD) at LAX. Are they going to change the tail as well?

 Wow! Wow that's hot stuff! I'm guessing the tail with change, though I'd love it if they left it alone... Was the text silver like the rest of the fleet? It appears a bit darker/purplier in the photo, but that's probably just the lighting?

Quoting 747m8te (Reply 170):
is this no longer a feature of the new product? Or only on particular aircraft?

All the refitted aircraft have lost IFE. They were talking about announcing IFE 'in the near future' months ago, so it's hard to know what they're planning. The A330s still have their looped PTV system. Could we see them follow the QF trial and maybe go for iPads/portable systems? I think it could work well for shorter domestic hops.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:43 pm

Quoting mikey (Reply 168):
Yesterday I saw a V Australia getting a new Virgin Australia title on one of their 777s (VH-VPD) at LAX. Are they going to change the tail as well?

I hope not, with Virgin Australia on the side and that tail it makes a quite stricking livery.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 148):
True but having flown QF to HNL and left on a HA A330, I know for a fact that the latter is light years ahead of the former.

I have 2 questions
1.Is Honolulu important to QF? just because they use old 767s on that service, only serve it from Sydney and I dont think its daily either ( I could be wrong there) it seems to me that it does not seem to be an important destination to them.

2. Will the A332 or A333 replace the 767s on SYD-HNL
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:11 pm

Quoting qf002 (Reply 174):
Could we see them follow the QF trial and maybe go for iPads/portable systems? I think it could work well for shorter domestic hops.

Interesting move...note that QFs newly configured 738s will now all be sporting large PTVs for all economy pax...

Would have thought after all the effort to bring in the Live2air system on DJ over the past few years they would have been continueing? odd?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:22 pm

Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 175):
I hope not, with Virgin Australia on the side and that tail it makes a quite stricking livery.

The livery is striking but I do believe that the whole livery will eventually be changed which is unfortunate as the silver with the subtle Australian flag is very attractive.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:33 am

DOT has given a green light for the Joint Business Agreement between Qantas and American Airlines on trans-Pacific services, from the US to Australia and New Zealand.

Source - http://www.traveldaily.com.au/news/q...nce-approved-by-us-officials/77754
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:07 am

QF will operate the A380 on the SYD-HKG-SYD route from mid JAN12.

More Info/discussion:

Qantas Will Operate A380 To HKG (by AlitaliaDC10 Nov 9 2011 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:51 am

Quoting cwalt2 (Reply 178):

I am no expert on these sort of agreements, but does anyone know, will this actually make a difference? It seems we hear about so many agreements that eventuate to nothing for the customer. Obviously AA would be enjoying the benefit of the QF flight to DFW and the connecting passengers on to other US destinations, but wouldnt that be a drop in the ocean in terms of AA passenger numbers? What else will this agreement do?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:05 am

Appears Air NZ will operate DJ's AKL-MEL and AKL-OOL service for awhile effectine Nov 14th with an A320.
Is this to free up a 737-800 to operate domestically or will this free the aircraft for repainting into Virgin Australia colours
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:51 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 174):
Quoting mikey (Reply 168):
Yesterday I saw a V Australia getting a new Virgin Australia title on one of their 777s (VH-VPD) at LAX. Are they going to change the tail as well?

Wow! Wow that's hot stuff! I'm guessing the tail with change, though I'd love it if they left it alone... Was the text silver like the rest of the fleet? It appears a bit darker/purplier in the photo, but that's probably just the lighting?

From my understanding the entire VA B77W fleet will receive the Virgin Australia livery...

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:36 pm

I haven't seen anyone else post this - if they have I'll ask for deletion - but Air Australia has now confirmed the BNE-MEL service, twice daily:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...eener/story-e6frg95x-1226191836091

"FROM Tuesday, Air Australia will run twice-daily weekday return services between Brisbane and Melbourne and one on weekends.'

As I've said, I think it is a very smart move - to connect the two focus cities.

This new airline is scratching several of my itches. I've been studying US LCC's (one in particular) very intently since 1998, and I like all the moves Air Australia is making.

For me - only for me - it is the most interesting thing to have happened in Australian (or NZ) aviation since I moved back down here seven years ago.

Which is not to to say I'm predicting raging success. I get more pleasure from the struggle than the success.

I intend to try it out when I have to go to Perth next year, I'll treat myself. The only question is to decide who to fly AKL-BNE.  Smile

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:55 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 183):
I haven't seen anyone else post this - if they have I'll ask for deletion - but Air Australia has now confirmed the BNE-MEL service, twice daily:

Great news for Air Australia!!! I really want to try their product now!! I might get a day off to fly it   

Quoting mariner (Reply 183):
The only question is to decide who to fly AKL-BNE
DJ of course  

And I love the Virgin Australia 777!!!
Sorry for appearing behind, but when did SQ give the permission for it??

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:14 am

Quoting vaustralie (Reply 184):
Sorry for appearing behind, but when did SQ give the permission for it??

Off the top of my head May, but someone could probably give a more definitive answer

Quoting vaustralie (Reply 184):
DJ of course

What are you talking about? EK all the way!!!  
Quoting vaustralie (Reply 184):
I love the Virgin Australia 777

I agree, I really like this hybrid livery and think its a shame they didn't keep the VA tail. I guess there's just too many planes already in Australia with a white body and a red tail that extends to the bottom of the fuselage
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:22 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 183):
I intend to try it out when I have to go to Perth next year, I'll treat myself. The only question is to decide who to fly AKL-BNE.  

Great news! Will have to try the product sometime!
Definitely EK to BNE , or if NZ have a 777-300ER scheduled on the route I'd be tempted with that!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:31 am

Quoting alangirvan (Reply 161):
it was said on this forum a few weeks ago that BNE-SIN-AUH was not going to happen. It was said that SYD-AUH loads were a bit disappointing - does anyone know if they have improved?

yes, I had said it... more than a few weeks ago...

my understanding is that AUH_SYD is doing well, largely because it is sold by EY as part of their SYD double daily proposition.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:40 am

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 187):
Quoting alangirvan (Reply 161):
it was said on this forum a few weeks ago that BNE-SIN-AUH was not going to happen. It was said that SYD-AUH loads were a bit disappointing - does anyone know if they have improved?

yes, I had said it... more than a few weeks ago...

If I remember rightly it was dropped into a press release on a completely unrelated matter in May, so we've know that it wasn't going to happen for a while.

It would be interesting to know whether the decision was due to a lack of 777 capacity at VA or because EY couldn't see much growth at BNE. Afterall BNE-AUH was launched as a 3x 77W, but quickly dropped to 3x A330.

The SYD-AUH service is basically a SkyWest-style franchise for EY.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:26 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 185):
What are you talking about? EK all the way!!!

I'll have to disagree  
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 188):
lack of 777 capacity at VA

When are they getting more? :S
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:52 am

Quoting vaustralie (Reply 189):
When are they getting more

I think they canceled their remaining orders
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:38 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 190):
I think they canceled their remaining orders

So it isn't just put on hold?
Awh well if that's true thats no good. I was really hoping for some expansion.
I heard some flight attendants talking the other day and they were talking about possible routes to Japan and China... Does anybody think these might come about or just two hosties talking ?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:39 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 188):
It would be interesting to know whether the decision was due to a lack of 777 capacity at VA or because EY couldn't see much growth at BNE. Afterall BNE-AUH was launched as a 3x 77W, but quickly dropped to 3x A330.

Quite the opposite - it actually started with the A332 - I distinctly remember it. The 77W was used only as a seasonal upgauge only during our summer - it was seasonal only and only lasted 2 summers.

Regarding EY's 3x weekly flights - there was discussion a few months back on a local aviation forum here in Brisbane indicating that EY was interesting in going daily, mainly to better compete with the likes of EK. I can't find the discussion at the moment but I know it's somwhere about.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:07 am

Just flew KTA-PER and then PER-KTA and I lucked out and ended up with 737s with the new interior on both flights....what a dramatic improvement over the old aircraft!

Having the PTV's is awesome, flight is just long enough to watch a movie. Much more comfortable too, really enjoyed having the IFE,beats watching the tablet. Though wouldn't want to fly them every few days content wouldn't be sustainable as there isn't as much as the A330's etc.

Was also good having a hot meal again, usually end up with the terrible cereal or stale sandwich. Catering was spot on today.

Anyone know if QF plan to retrofit to the rest of the 737 fleet? Especially for those long hauls I think KTA-BNE is still the longest so would want it on that flight for sure!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:24 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 185):
Quoting vaustralie (Reply 184):
Sorry for appearing behind, but when did SQ give the permission for it??

Off the top of my head May, but someone could probably give a more definitive answer

When the VA re branding was announced...

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:01 pm

Anyone know if QF plan to retrofit to the rest of the 737 fleet? Especially for those long hauls I think KTA-BNE is still the longest so would want it on that flight for sure!

Quoting pilotdude09 (Reply 193):

With another 18 brand new B73Hs due for delivery over the next 2 years, its only a matter of time before QF decide to refit the original B73H fleet with the new seats and IFE.

Doesn't make sense operating 2 different products on the B73H fleet, especially when the B73H fleet will be around for another 10yrs at least.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:07 pm

Quoting pilotdude09 (Reply 193):
Though wouldn't want to fly them every few days content wouldn't be sustainable as there isn't as much as the A330's etc.

The Panasonic system is the same for both the 73H's and domestic 332s. The content is less on shorter flights.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:12 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 194):

John Borghetti confirmed the name change from V Australia to Virgin Australia on 04 May.

http://www.traveldaily.com.au/news/virgin-australia-revealed/45881
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:41 am

Saw the VA Transitional livery on the 77W today at MEL. It looks good I must say. Didnt like the V Australia font or logo in the past, but this one suits well.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread 55

Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:25 am

Quoting vaustralie (Reply 191):
I was really hoping for some expansion.

A330's??   

Quoting vhebb (Reply 195):
With another 18 brand new B73Hs due for delivery over the next 2 years, its only a matter of time before QF decide to refit the original B73H fleet with the new seats and IFE.

Doesn't make sense operating 2 different products on the B73H fleet, especially when the B73H fleet will be around for another 10yrs at least.

It's already been reported that they're going to refit J class with the new seats which have just debuted on the BSI 738 (basically a red leather A330 seat, and they've at least said that J will be leather across the entire fleet...) so I imagine that they will do IFE/Y updates at the same time if they're going to... Personally I'd rather see iPads/wireless on short domestic hops, but anything is better than what they offer at the moment (ie next to nothing).

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