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Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:44 pm

Does anybody have any rarely seen pics of the inside of the real Pan Am Worldport at JFK in the 60's or 70's?
Or, can someone, who was there, explain how T3 looked during the 60's (in other words, is the show, if you've seen it, accurate)? The reason I ask, after watching the show on ABC, I'm trying to figure out where they are in a scene and I just can't. Did DL (or PA) change the terminal so much over the years? It seems so closed in and almost maze-like now. In the show, it's so open and airy and roomy. I'm sure part of it would be because in 1963 there were far fewer people flying and fewer jets parked at T3.

On a completely different note, I find it funny how the same 4 F/A's fly with the same 3 pilots on EVERY trip! LOL
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:07 pm

Quoting delta2ual (Thread starter):
On a completely different note, I find it funny how the same 4 F/A's fly with the same 3 pilots on EVERY trip! LOL

Yes! Talk about "holding a line"...* And, isn't the cabin of that 707 awfully wide?

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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:19 pm

The rotunda is accurate. The 1960's addition was then, and now more than ever, a foul, hot mess.
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:28 pm

Quoting turk223 (Reply 1):
Yes! Talk about "holding a line"...* And, isn't the cabin of that 707 awfully wide?

HAHAHA....i know, right?

In the show's defense....I can see where entire crews (front & back) flew together...allot...back in the days of paper bidding. Computer programs were primitive and the dream-nightmare of PBS was science fiction, so there were only so many lines available for bidding purposes. Plus, remember that even though PA was a huge operation by 1963 standards....staffing would be somewhat small by modern standards. I would venture to guess that the JFK ground ops, flight ops AND FA base population at the time was well under 1K.

To the OP: thanks for posting this question. I have looked all over for period interior shots to no avail. I am all to familiar with the hot mess T3 is today....would love to see what she looked like back in her day.

[Edited 2011-10-25 09:00:21]
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:11 pm

Related question: Are there any Pan Am artifacts in any of the Delta Sky Clubs at JFK?
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:09 pm

From the James Bond movie, circa early 70s.

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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:31 pm

Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 5):
From the James Bond movie, circa early 70s.

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:54 pm

What was Bond doing flying Pan Am, when BA had its own small, very cozy, dedicated terminal on the other side of the airport? (Okay, Connery flew LH 707 from Amsterdam to LA in Diamonds Are Forever (5th Freedom, apparently, because I remember looking up the flight number, and it actually agreed with the LH number in the film) ).
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:24 pm

The "TV" terminal seems very acurate from the many photos of the pre-expansion days for the 747. The photos all had open jetways, the way the TV show has it.

Did Pan AM really "weigh" the FA the way show depicks ?
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:56 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 8):
The "TV" terminal seems very acurate from the many photos of the pre-expansion days for the 747.

I couldn't get my bearings in the first episode, but I think the week before last they had a view very similar to the Bond film still above and at that point I recognized everything.

I agree it seems fairly accurate in terms of the basic layout, which is really pretty much the same today as it always was. The one weird thing is that the set in the show appears to actually be square (although the roof looks round), which would be an unsurprising nod to cost-cutting, since it *is* just a set and I'm sure it's cheaper to build right angles (and also easier to fit on a sound stage). The TV show set is also obviously smaller, but they rarely show the entire thing so it's usually kind of hard to tell. In that same episode a couple weeks ago, though, you could see how small it was compared to the real thing. The original rotunda is not that big, but it's also not a little box like the set in the show is.

I have no doubt that the TV show set is as big as it can be, but not as big as the real thing, and it's on a square sound stage with a green screen behind it so they can digitally insert the outdoor background views later.

Edit: Ha! I found an awesome site that shows what I'm talking about perfectly, and you can compare the Bond shot above directly with the TV show: http://www.fxguide.com/featured/pan-am-retro-green-screen-world/

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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:01 pm

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 9):
Edit: Ha! I found an awesome site that shows what I'm talking about perfectly, and you can compare the Bond shot above directly with the TV show: http://www.fxguide.com/featured/pan-...orld/

Fascinating stuff!

Did you read the comments on that page? They're as contentious over on that site as we are here!  
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:10 pm

The Bond picture is from 1972 or 73.
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:53 pm

Quoting United_fan (Reply 11):
The Bond picture is from 1972 or 73.

It's from Live and Let Die, which was released in 1973. Bond flies from LHR to JFK on PA, and runs into trouble pretty quickly once he leaves the Worldport. Bond's love interest in that movie was a very young Jane Seymour.
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:59 pm

In the tv show Pan Am when they are in scenes in the Pan Am terminal it looks so bright and airy. In the photo above it looks somewhat dark and gloomy inside. Any photos of the inside as it looks today?
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:07 pm

Where was customs and immigration located in the Worldport at the time?

How did the PA Terminal compare to the TWA Flight Center?
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:10 pm

I have watched the series and one would think that the producers would have done a better job the the coach cabin.

Did you also notice that neither the capt, fo or flight engineer do not have wings... Did PAN AM not have wings for the

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:36 pm

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 14):
Where was customs and immigration located in the Worldport at the time?

Customs was in the International Arrivals Building next door, later referred to as T4.

Pan Am and TWA were assigned terminal locations next to the IAB, so it would be easier for them to tow aircraft between the IAB (where their international flights deplaned) and their terminals (where their departures boarded)

Not until the Worldport was expanded in 1973 did PA have customs and immigration in their terminal. TWA had customs and immigration in their terminal beginning in 1970.
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:37 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 13):
Any photos of the inside as it looks today?

This is the best (well, only) one I have, and you can click the thumbnail to see it bigger:



I took that last month. It's looking from the second level towards the front. That split level setup is still there - they just replaced the spiral staircase with two regular ones. And they've stuck a Starbucks and an enclosed newsstand on the floor. This would otherwise be the view of the same floor as in the Bond photo, just looking from the opposite direction (I would be standing behind Bond on the second floor). Bond is basically in the newsstand stockroom if you compare this photo with the film still above.

The terminal is very run down and dirty these days, but it's actually not as gloomy as the Bond still makes it look. When I took the photo it was dark outside (this was about 5:30AM) and you can see it's already brighter than the Bond still. When light started to stream in as the sun came up, it obviously just got that much brighter inside.

Without all the extra crap taking up space and blocking the available light, I can imagine it probably was very bright in the 1960's.

They may not have had as good of a lighting setup for when it's dark back then, though. But I don't think they ever show that in the TV show.

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Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:55 pm

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 7):
What was Bond doing flying Pan Am, when BA had its own small, very cozy, dedicated terminal on the other side of the airport? (Okay, Connery flew LH 707 from Amsterdam to LA in Diamonds Are Forever (5th Freedom, apparently, because I remember looking up the flight number, and it actually agreed with the LH number in the film) ).

In "From Russia with Love", 007 flies from LHR to Istanbul on a PA 707. In "Dr. No", Bond flies from JFK to Nassau on a PA 707. One would assume that 007 flew from LHR to JFK on PA, then connected for Nassau.
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:02 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 9):
Edit: Ha! I found an awesome site that shows what I'm talking about perfectly, and you can compare the Bond shot above directly with the TV show

ABC ask Delta for permission to shoot the some of the show in T4, but they wanted to shut the terminal down for a few days. We can only imagine the amount of laughter that came with "HELL NO". They settled for a set of original building blueprints.
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:02 am

Quoting ckfred (Reply 18):
One would assume that 007 flew from LHR to JFK on PA, then connected for Nassau.

Why not LHR-NAS? BA does it today on a 763.
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:10 am

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 8):
Did Pan AM really "weigh" the FA the way show depicks ?

It would not suprise me. Airlines did have weight checks for their flight attendants well into the next few decades.

I can tell you, for a fact, that I work for a major airline and as late as 1996 or 1997, our flight attendants AND ticket agents were still subject to quarterly "weigh-ins."

I remember being a ticket agent for my carrier in the mid-90s and not only was there a heigh/weight guide posted in the application interview, but once a quarter, someone from our regional personnel office would fly in and weigh us....and THAT was as a ticket agent....in the mid-90s!

I also remember being required to send a photo of ourselves in with our application....again...as recently as the 90s.

I also hear our flight attendants today talk about the extremes they would go through in the 80s and 90s to meet the weight checks and being placed on "probation" and their jobs on the line if they went over the approved weight.

Lawsuits at other carriers put an end to this practice in the US.
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:45 am

The first time I was in the Worldport was as a young kid in the early 70's. The pictures we (my family) have of the trips through there show a terminal looking very much like the it does in the show. Not much has been done since the 1960's besides the addition of jetbridges. Today, the only real thing that has changed in T3 since Pan Am disappeared is the Delta signage instead of the Pan Am signage and the added security.

And, yes, they were pretty tough on the weight limits. That had to change with the Americans with Disability Act (ADA). Two things happened in the airline industry: the flight attendants (stewardesses) gained weight and the pilots were allowed to go blind. Conspiracy theorists, go crazy with that one.....  
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:06 am

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 8):
Did Pan AM really "weigh" the FA the way show depicks ?

they sure did...as did DL/NW/TW/AA and almost every major US airline.

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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:09 am

Quoting indiansbucs (Reply 6):
Great movie as well!

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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:10 am

Quoting ckfred (Reply 18):
In "Dr. No", Bond flies from JFK to Nassau on a PA 707.

I believe he flew to Kingston,Jamaica from London.
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:16 am

I think for Summer 2012 my family will be heading to NYC. Is there anyway for me to ensure that our flight will be routed through T3? Or is it all chance..
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:27 am

Quoting United_fan (Reply 25):
I believe he flew to Kingston,Jamaica from London.

If you look closely at the footage in Dr. No of the Pan Am 707 landing, you can see SEA's terminal in the background, with a Western Airlines aircraft on the ramp.

However, when I watch this movie I prefer to look closely at the footage of Ursula Andress in a bikini  
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:37 am

My first visit to Terminal 3 -- Worldport, sorry -- was in 1979.

I hate to say it, but it was almost in as depressing a state as it is today.


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Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:42 am

Quoting aviateur (Reply 28):
I hate to say it, but it was almost in as depressing a state as it is today.

Really? Even in 1979 when Pan Am was at its peak with sending 747s everywhere?
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:49 am

Quoting jetdeltamsy (Reply 23):
Went out in the 80's when it was decided to be discriminatory. That's why we have so many heffers hosting us in the air.

I see discriminatory thinking didn't go out with the 80's.
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:50 am

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 29):
Really? Even in 1979 when Pan Am was at its peak with sending 747s everywhere?

Really. Well, maybe it wasn't * as * depressing, but it wasn't anything special. Upkeep and maintenance already were lacking.

I remember an Iran Air 747 at the Worldport that day.

This was back when you could plane-spot from the rooftop parking lot. I also saw a British Airways VC-10 that day -- the only VC-10 I ever saw in commercial service.


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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:51 am

Quoting ckfred (Reply 18):

Quoting type-rated (Reply 13):
Any photos of the inside as it looks today?

This is the best (well, only) one I have, and you can click the thumbnail to see it bigger:



The terminal is very run down and dirty these days, but it's actually not as gloomy as the Bond still makes it look. When I took the photo it was dark outside (this was about 5:30AM) and you can see it's already brighter than the Bond still. When light started to stream in as the sun came up, it obviously just got that much brighter inside.

How much longer will the roof last? Check out the water diversion system... that's not modern art! How many hoses do you count?
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:21 am

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 29):
Really? Even in 1979 when Pan Am was at its peak with sending 747s everywhere?

This is NYC - a 20 year old building is already going to be showing its age, especially one built in the 1960's. There's a reason why we call things "pre-war" and "post-war"  

The pre-war stuff was built to last. Anything post-war is at best hit or miss, and mostly miss - a lot of buildings built in the 1960's have already been torn down, and most of the rest really need to be. (The TWA Flight Center being an exception.)

Even T4, which is only a few years old, was leaking when I visited it a couple years ago, and had obvious water damage to the floors on the lower level. I don't know if they've fixed that or not.

Quoting gaystudpilot (Reply 32):
How much longer will the roof last? Check out the water diversion system... that's not modern art!

Yeah, that's actually what I was really trying to show when I took that pic. It's crazy. It's not just water, either - those tarps are almost all holding bits of plaster or whatever the roof is made of. The building is literally falling apart.

I don't know what the plan is for this terminal - is it scheduled to be replaced?
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:26 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 33):
I don't know what the plan is for this terminal - is it scheduled to be replaced?

It's going to be demolished and replaced with hardstand parking when the extension of T4 is complete.
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:05 am

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 16):

So Pan Am and TWA only ever boarded their flights at those terminals in the 1960s, and the passengers always left next door?

That explains the photos of TWA and Pan Am aircraft at the main IAB in the database! I never knew.

There's an inaccuracy in the show then - they always show the crew leaving in the Worldport
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:43 am

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 8):
Did Pan AM really "weigh" the FA the way show depicks ?

Almost all if not all airlines had weigh ins for their flight attendants, stewardesses, during that era. Marriage meant you had to quit, etc.

The Worldport was beautiful when it opened. I never flew Pan Am out of there, but was there to eat while waiting for flights on Eastern, Mohawk, and Northeast. As I remember, it opened in 1962 or 1963.
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:38 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 10):
Did you read the comments on that page? They're as contentious over on that site as we are here!
I noticed that too!

[quote=spacecadet,reply=17]The terminal is very run down and dirty these days,

I agree compared to newer terminals-it is run down. But, from my experience speaking with former PA F/A's (which is anecdotal information) when DL received T3 from PA, it was in worse shape (I'm speaking of the interiors-not the infrastructure). DL has spent quite a bit of money on "refreshment" of the terminal (i.e. new and brighter lighting, flooring in certain areas, gates, and paint).

Quoting higherflyer (Reply 22):
Not much has been done since the 1960's besides the addition of jetbridges.

And the addition of Starbucks! LOL

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 35):
There's an inaccuracy in the show then - they always show the crew leaving in the Worldport

That's not the only inaccuracy. When they are supposed to be leaving from LHR, and are pre-flighting the aircraft, you can see the Worldport out the window.
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Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:47 pm

Quoting delta2ual (Reply 37):
DL has spent quite a bit of money on "refreshment" of the terminal (i.e. new and brighter lighting, flooring in certain areas, gates, and paint).

I'm sure they did; it's obvious that the gates and other areas have been updated. But it looks like the major refurbishment probably was done in the 1990's and then nothing at all has been done since then and it's just been left literally to rot. They obviously don't even bother fixing it when the roof springs another leak, they just stick another tarp under it. I'm convinced it's not even actually safe; you see all those big chunks of roof collected in those tarps, and if one of those fell and hit somebody before they managed to get a tarp up...

Then you have stuff like security that just routes you to the side of the terminal separated from the rest by (from what I remember) temporary partitions, which looks cheap and crappy and hastily thrown up... though I'll bet it was hastily thrown up in 2001, and has been that way ever since.

The whole rotunda kind of already has the feel of a demolition site, even though nothing has actually been done... it's just a mish mash of stuff that's falling apart and temporary stuff that's been thrown up since the last refurbishment.

The concourse area, while a nightmare of a different sort, still at least feels like a viable structure, though it is a totally ridiculous building (but I'm sure it always was).
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:05 pm

Quoting delta2ual (Reply 37):
I agree compared to newer terminals-it is run down. But, from my experience speaking with former PA F/A's (which is anecdotal information) when DL received T3 from PA, it was in worse shape (I'm speaking of the interiors-not the infrastructure). DL has spent quite a bit of money on "refreshment" of the terminal (i.e. new and brighter lighting, flooring in certain areas, gates, and paint).

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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:55 pm

Quoting delta2ual (Thread starter):
Did DL (or PA) change the terminal so much over the years? It seems so closed in and almost maze-like now. In the show, it's so open and airy and roomy

Remember though that today when you are airside in T3 in the rotunda area, you are only seeing a part of the terminal, as the front part of the terminal is the check-in area and completely separated/walled off....In the show, there was no separation between the entrance area and the rest of the rotunda, so the whole terminal looks bigger....

Quoting delta2ual (Reply 37):
But, from my experience speaking with former PA F/A's (which is anecdotal information) when DL received T3 from PA, it was in worse shape (I'm speaking of the interiors-not the infrastructure).

Indeed it was...I flew Pan Am a lot in the eighties all the way till the end, and the whole terminal was a lot darker (and towards the end, a lot dingier) than what it is today. Delta's refurbishment 'lightened' the whole place up a lot.

Slightly OT, but one thing the TV show did manage to nail is some of the inflight service elements - the very tiny details are amazingly accurate, such as the chateaubriand on the carving board (Pan Am First Class was always known for having either a roast beef or rack of lamb served on a carving board from the trolley, even all the way until the bitter end in 1991) in the episode where the Christina Ricci character 'stabs' a passenger; or the red carnations in white china vases (used to be at every First Class passenger's table); or the cooking of eggs to order in First Class, or the blue Pan Am swizzle sticks in each glass; or the fancily-folded napkin out of a glass on the galley countertop (I flew with another ex-Pan Am FA recently on Delta, and she had the exact same folded napkin set-up in the galley!)

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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:35 am

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 27):
However, when I watch this movie I prefer to look closely at the footage of Ursula Andress in a bikini  

No competition from me. I'll take Mr Bond.  
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:12 am

Quoting gaystudpilot (Reply 41):
No competition from me. I'll take Mr Bond.

We'll have to divvy up the Mr. Bond's then. 
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Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:09 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 38):
The concourse area, while a nightmare of a different sort, still at least feels like a viable structure, though it is a totally ridiculous building (but I'm sure it always was).

The rooftop parking was VERY convenient! Literally just a few steps from your car to the gate.
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Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:55 am

Quoting rampart (Reply 30):


I see discriminatory thinking didn't go out with the 80's.

Not to mention poor spelling.
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Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:14 pm

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 43):

The rooftop parking was VERY convenient! Literally just a few steps from your car to the gate.

And it was great for photography!
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:39 pm

Quoting delta2ual (Thread starter):
On a completely different note, I find it funny how the same 4 F/A's fly with the same 3 pilots on EVERY trip! LOL

I remember thinking the exact same thing! How would crew in a base as large as NYC *always* fly together on every single trip?

Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 3):
In the show's defense....I can see where entire crews (front & back) flew together...allot...back in the days of paper bidding. Computer programs were primitive and the dream-nightmare of PBS was science fiction, so there were only so many lines available for bidding purposes. Plus, remember that even though PA was a huge operation by 1963 standards....staffing would be somewhat small by modern standards. I would venture to guess that the JFK ground ops, flight ops AND FA base population at the time was well under 1K.

And then I remember that PA introduced one of the world's first computer systems for reservations/scheduling/etc...a year after the show is supposed to be set. (IIRC, wasn't PANAMAC introduced in 1964?) So, I would indeed bet that they probably did group people together just for simplicity's sake back in the days of paper and pencil scheduling.
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:11 pm

This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:16 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 13):
Any photos of the inside as it looks today?

Have a look at some 2011 T2/T3 pictures starting here: http://airchive.com/html/airplanes-a...lta-terminal-2-curbside-2010/13974
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RE: Pan Am Worldport

Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:51 am

Quoting jetdeltamsy (Reply 23):
That's why we have so many heffers hosting us in the air.

What do you weigh and what is your job?
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