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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:49 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 149):

Were they were just after LHR slots? Any truth in rumors of Etihad flying West from DUB... Would AUH-DUB-US West coast make any sense?
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:59 pm

A quick question about DUB's runway. Today's announcements about the axed capital spending got me thinking that 28R/10L will not go ahead for many many years to come if ever at all. Could the existing 28/10 not be extended? Looking at aerial images of DUB it strikes me that the threshold of the runway is a good 1,000m on both ends from the airport boundary. The runway is supposedly 2,637m at present. The planned parallel runway was supposed to be 473m longer. Could they not add these 473m to one end or 236m to each end of 28/10?

I'm assuming the answer is no or else they would have done this by now. Is this because the runway would have to be completely taken out of action? Can this type of work be done in increments overnight while there is no traffic? (This itself raises another question - how did they go about resurfacing the runway recently does anybody know?)
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:07 am

Quoting Phen (Reply 151):
A quick question about DUB's runway. Today's announcements about the axed capital spending got me thinking that 28R/10L will not go ahead for many many years to come if ever at all. Could the existing 28/10 not be extended? Looking at aerial images of DUB it strikes me that the threshold of the runway is a good 1,000m on both ends from the airport boundary. The runway is supposedly 2,637m at present. The planned parallel runway was supposed to be 473m longer. Could they not add these 473m to one end or 236m to each end of 28/10?

I'm assuming the answer is no or else they would have done this by now. Is this because the runway would have to be completely taken out of action? Can this type of work be done in increments overnight while there is no traffic? (This itself raises another question - how did they go about resurfacing the runway recently does anybody know?)

The Runway would have been DAA funded anyway, so the Government's capital spending intentions dont really mean anything in that context.

Short answer to the runway lengthening - Yes, its entirely possible. But the revised plans for the new runway were for a length of 3660m, and I would suggest that is what is needed.

None the less, it is still possible to extend 10/28. At the 10 end, there is 1000m remaining prior to the boundary fence, and beyond it, the R108 road, and then open farm land.

The Runway could be extended right to the current boundary, with the R108 put underneath in a short tunnel, or diverted around the revised perimeter, with the farmland (which I believe is DAA owned anyway) can be used as the new Runway end safety area.

It has not been done because up to the last few years, the need was not really there and the DAA were trying to justfiy construction of the new 10/28 parallel in a country where everyone believes FR's views on spending anything on airport infrastructure.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:17 am

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 152):
The Runway could be extended right to the current boundary, with the R108 put underneath in a short tunnel, or diverted around the revised perimeter, with the farmland (which I believe is DAA owned anyway) can be used as the new Runway end safety area.

Interesting proposal. There probably is a very limited number of potential airlines that would need an extended runway to be able to serve DUB, so perhaps its not worth the investment. Especially with EK coming on the scene and even CA if rumours are to be bleieved.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:52 am

Quoting Phen (Reply 153):
Interesting proposal. There probably is a very limited number of potential airlines that would need an extended runway to be able to serve DUB, so perhaps its not worth the investment. Especially with EK coming on the scene and even CA if rumours are to be bleieved.

If EY and EK want to use anything larger, then an extension would be preferable, though not absolutely essential.

EI were limited payload to LAX and SFO. So if they return to these destinations, an extension really should be completed.

CA would likely need one for a direct PEK also, and anything to South East Asia would be in the same boat.

Remember, the current length is limiting - even for DL 764's and EI's 330's on longer sectors, and a longer runway would cut operational costs for the airlines.

It really is something worth pursuing.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:01 am

The best solution for a runway extension, if required, would be a displaced threshold on 28. That would give the extra length to planes that need it without the big cost of a runway extension to handle constant landing traffic. it would also ensure the flight path into 28 doesn't have to be re-designed with a lower height on approach.

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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:51 am

It may be the case that the DAA wants all or nothing - i.e. settling for just an extension to 28/10 might hamper their case for a completely new 28L/10R which will be necessary at some point down the line. They might be thinking why invest in 28/10 when we plan to build a new runway anyway.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:37 am

Emirates have taken over the www.irishtimes.com website with nice cabin crew image. Putting some marketing muscle behind the new year launch.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:15 pm

Quoting sawtooth (Reply 157):
Emirates have taken over the www.irishtimes.com website with nice cabin crew image. Putting some marketing muscle behind the new year launch.

Their ads are now on the side of a few of the Aircoach buses, also popping up more online in my browser over the last few days.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:49 pm

Quoting sawtooth (Reply 135):
Which proves my point, as they WERE NOT growing similarly prior to this. My comparison was with LGW itself in previous years, LHR is LHR and vital. But LHR and LGW being owned by BAA held LGW back as LHR was always pushed first. One can only hope that the same will be for ORK and SNN.

I'm not sure I agree with this. I think even historically they have been growing quite similar. LHR always (and still does) had the bigger appeal but because it is congested, LGW has been able to grow at around the same levels.

LHR and LGW are comparable at least, as they both serve the London areas. I'm not sure people should overfocus on ORK and SNN getting passengers from Dublin. Dublin will have too many advantages. SNN should be concentrating on places like Galway and ORK on places like Waterford where they are losing passengers to other competing airports.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:56 pm

Quoting EI564 (Reply 159):
SNN should be concentrating on places like Galway and ORK on places like Waterford where they are losing passengers to other competing airports.

Depends on the market. For flights to the London, shannon should focus on galway and limerick. for flights to the UK regional cities they should focus on from Sligo to Kerry.

For US flights, they should focus on everwhere within 2.5hrs of Shannon.

Quoting Reply 145):
MAN, DUS, VCE

These three airports arent regional airports. They are principal gateways.
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:57 pm

Aer Lingus to introduce new titles and departments

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AER LINGUS is planning a shake- up of its executive team. After an extensive review of its structures, the airline has concluded that its needs to “deepen” its leadership capability in customer service and IT at executive level.

Fergus Wilson has been confirmed as chief operating officer, having served in the role on an interim basis since July.

Enda Corneille, who has been through a number of management reshuffles in recent years, is taking a one-year sabbatical to concentrate on his MBA studies. Corneille was director of shared services, a function that is being axed.

Aer Lingus is creating three new roles – general counsel, chief technology officer and customer experience executive.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...nance/2011/1111/1224307368638.html

Hopefully this is more than just adding new managers and a few title changes. Staff have been told this wont add to the cost of management at the airline.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:31 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 161):
Enda Corneille, who has been through a number of management reshuffles in recent years, is taking a one-year sabbatical to concentrate on his MBA studies.

He's doing a masters in UL as far as I know.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:22 pm

The DAA cap airport charges for next year:

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...harges_To_Remain_Flat_in_2012.aspx

But, as usual, it's still not enough for FR.

They have now secured a cut in the travel tax, cuts on navigation and ATC fees, and a price cap on charges, with huge incentives for new routes. But still no growth.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:49 pm

Touching back on the SK news. I got an alert today that my flight has gone from a A319 to a A321 so indeed a capacity increase. Will be nice to see their 321's regular into DUB.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:01 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 164):
Touching back on the SK news. I got an alert today that my flight has gone from a A319 to a A321 so indeed a capacity increase. Will be nice to see their 321's regular into DUB.

Yup, OSL will go from a 736 to a mix of 737 and 738 also.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:54 am

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 163):
They have now secured a cut in the travel tax, cuts on navigation and ATC fees, and a price cap on charges, with huge incentives for new routes. But still no growth.

Not disagreeing with your FR point, but the travel tax wasn't cut, money raised from the tax was instead partly used in a winter marketing campaign as none of the airlines agreed to boost routes. I think the airlines had already fixed winter plans when the cut was proposed as part of the jobs initiative in June. If it is to be cut it will probably be as part of some big announcement of new routes in the spring.

[Edited 2011-11-11 16:56:19]
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:07 am

I said that they secured "a" cut in the Travel tax, which they did - from 10 euro to 3 euro.
 
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:41 am

Sorry as that was a long while back I thought you meant the recent €3 proposal.

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AAIU report on German Wings / Turkish near miss at DUB

http://aaiu.ie/AAIUviewitem.asp?id=13379&lang=ENG&loc=1652
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...eland/2011/1112/1224307460555.html
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:45 am

Quoting sawtooth (Reply 168):
AAIU report on German Wings / Turkish near miss at DUB

140ft is rather close........ bet that must have been a heart stopping sight for anyone who was spotting around the perimiter!
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:55 am

Quoting sawtooth (Reply 168):
AAIU report on German Wings / Turkish near miss at DUB
Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 169):
140ft is rather close........ bet that must have been a heart stopping sight for anyone who was spotting around the perimiter!

I was actually at the lay-by on that morning and saw the near miss. It was clear that the crew of TC-JGG had entered the runway without clearance, but the report makes for interesting reading.
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:09 pm

A little bump for the thread.... Iv never seen it on the 2nd page of titles before...haha

Here's a detailed account of what happened with the THY 737 on RWY 28/10

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=44609728&opt=0
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:51 am

Good morning folks - from Dubai, where the first day of the Dubai air show coincided with the state opening of the Emirates chequebook. 50 77Ws ... I might buy a few myself - I don't want to be left out!

Flew down with EK yesterday evening, EK 12 from LGW and I have to say I was very impressed; great ground staff at LGW, great flight, good IFE and food; all around most impressive - until I got to T3 at DXB, which I was a little disappointed about, not least the dozens of unmanned immigration desks and the slowness of baggage reclaim. That said, I thought the EK experience was great. They're certainly packing them in as well; EK 12 was supposed to have been a 772, but was upgraded to a 773 - and even that too was full.

DUB is already showing on the airline's route maps and of course, the timetable, which is good to see. We're plugged in - and with 50 77Ws to replace the older 772s, A340s and 330s, I doubt if we'll be waiting too long before we see 777s.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:30 pm

Aer Lingus are running an extra daily return Shannon-London/Heathrow flight on Thursday and Friday, 22nd and 23rd December. Flight EI2383 leaves LHR 15:35 and arrives at SNN 17:00. EI2382 leaves SNN 18:40 and arrives LHR 20:05.

I wonder where they're getting this slot pair from..could they be transferring a DUB flight?
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:56 pm

DAA declines to comment on job loss reports

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1114/jobs.html

A spokesman for the Dublin Airport Authority has declined to comment on newspaper reports that it is to seek 150 redundancies at the country's three main airports.

This would be quite bad news - especially considering that the DAA have only recently taken on hundreds of staff at DUB.

Perhaps there would be a disproportionate impact upon both SNN and ORK in this case?

EIBusiness

[Edited 2011-11-14 10:07:31]
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:04 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 173):
Aer Lingus are running an extra daily return Shannon-London/Heathrow flight on Thursday and Friday, 22nd and 23rd December.

It's that time of year again! Cork-Heathrow will also become an A321 from 21st to 24th of December and there's an extra A320 flight on the 21st.

Maybe DUB will combine a few flights into an A330?

There's also talk on another forum that Aer Lingus will announce a new route from Cork next summer and it isn't a sun route. Top of the list is FRA which would be great if it happens!
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:35 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 175):
Top of the list is FRA which would be great if it happens!

Yeah I remember the old days when I used to be a regular on the DUB-FRA-DUB route and it often continued onto ORK .
 
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Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:50 pm

Quoting Reply 131):
All the other times, it makes sense for me to use the choice that LON provides.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 164):
Touching back on the SK news. I got an alert today that my flight has gone from a A319 to a A321 so indeed a capacity increase. Will be nice to see their 321's regular into DUB.

It's good to see alright. There are some great destinations in Scandanavia, sadly overlooked sometimes by many of us, as we flock to the same "Ballymun in the Sun" destinations year after year.

Quoting EIBusiness (Reply 174):
Perhaps there would be a disproportionate impact upon both SNN and ORK in this case?

I suspect that will be the case. ORK in particular I suspect. SNN has had quite a culling already, but ORK was protected through much of that by higher charges (easy when FR are not beating down the door) and strong growth year-on-year. For sure Aer Rianta Cork is massively bloated.

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 175):
Top of the list is FRA which would be great if it happens!

Apparently slots have been applied for days 1-3-5-7 and have been approved. There are convenient gaps in the timetable on those days as well. Basically the slack left by SNN-CDG will become ORK-FRA, if things develop as expected. I don't think there will be an LH code on the flight (a UA one, perhaps) but it will still be useful and offer another connecting point - crucially into the Star Alliance network.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:18 pm

Good to see more growth if the ORK-FRA route turns out to be true.


Speaking of FRA, some good deals with LH on the A380 in First Class. PEK, JNB, SIN, MIA from €5100 return - almost enough to give you Star Gold in one go and a pretty nice way to do it...


If BD do end up being bought out by IAG and Diamond Club is scrapped, what is the best Star program to be with??
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:38 pm

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 177):
It's good to see alright. There are some great destinations in Scandanavia,

Indeed I love Norway and will deffo look at OSL for a citybreak sometime in the Spring. Always had nice flights with SK and that was one reason I chose them for my flights next month. Also a nice MD-80 now connecting to a A321   If I could bring one airline back into DUB it would be LOT and their E Jets.. that was a great service with great connections and sadly missed.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:05 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 179):

I'm amazed LOT have not returned. EI fares to WAW are always higher than their average (significantly higher).

One daily flight from Eire Warsaw to Polish Warsaw simply isnt enough!  
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:00 pm

Odd question: is the airbridge at Cork ever used these days?
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:04 pm

Some news on the DAA front, Collier is to leave for LCY when his contract expires in April 2012

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1115/daa-business.html
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:05 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 181):
Odd question: is the airbridge at Cork ever used these days?

I don't believe EI or FR use it at all, EI did fro a brief period on LHR flights, but there was an incident with the bridge damaging an aircraft and they have not used it since. Charter flights, however, do use it. Especially flights to/from Lourdes, which can have upwards of 50 wheelchair users on board. The layout at ORK means there is a lot of stair climbing when arriving, but it is not too bad and lifts are on-hand for those who require them.
 
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Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:26 pm

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 183):
I don't believe EI or FR use it at all, EI did fro a brief period on LHR flights, but there was an incident with the bridge damaging an aircraft and they have not used it since. Charter flights, however, do use it. Especially flights to/from Lourdes, which can have upwards of 50 wheelchair users on board. The layout at ORK means there is a lot of stair climbing when arriving, but it is not too bad and lifts are on-hand for those who require them.

I must say ORK has a pretty decent layout. We had a long discussion recently about how SNN is overspeced for the current traffic levels with 6 air bridges configured to accomodate multiple widebody arrivals at the same time (all of which have recently been replaced when the built the CBP facility). The remote stands at SNN leave alot to be desired with a fairly long, uncovered walk across the tarmac to get to the stand furthest from the terminal building. They should have considered a dual system like at ORK where there is the option of using the airbridge or using an air stairs.

Perhaps this was considered and was too expensive or the additional distance from terminal to aircraft to accommodate such a system would have meant that the apron needed to be extended to allow aircraft sufficient distance to push back or maybe the US INS service wouldn't permit it. Who knows but it would seem to have been something that could have made the airport more relevant to the traffic profile it would be seeking to attract.
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:57 pm

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 184):
They should have considered a dual system like at ORK where there is the option of using the airbridge or using an air stairs.

Interesting you mention this. At Shannon all flights have the option of using an airbridge or not using one - obviously there are higher charges for the airline though if it chooses to use them. Gates 8A, 9A, 10, 12 and 13 are contact stands but are not connected by airbridge. I.e. the aircraft parks at a stand equipped with an airbridge but there is way where passengers can be boarded without the need of the airbridge.

http://i46.tinypic.com/nwn7n7.jpg
Gates 11 and 12 are the same stand (Stand 39) but 11 uses the airbridge and 12 uses these stairs to access the apron. Stands 37 (Gates 9, 10) and 41 (Gates 13, 14) are configured similarly

Now these gates (8A, 9A, 10, 12, 13) are never used but I think it would be better if all operations were consolidated on the pier and remove the remote gates (1-5) downstairs - at least until they need them again. There are no seats down there either and you would often find people sitting on the floor.

The US CBP does not require airlines to use airbridges at Shannon. Hence the numbering of Gate 110, 112, 113 which would indicate that the flight using gates 10, 12 or 13 are being precleared.

Obviously on the whole it's a very complex setup - it took me a while to get my head round it!
 
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Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:05 am

Some news on the continued EI/FR brawl. -

Aer Lingus rejects renewed Ryanair EGM call

Irish airline Aer Lingus rejected a renewed call by rival Ryanair on Tuesday to hold an extraordinary general meeting (EGM) to discuss its 400 million euros ($541 million) pension deficit and a tax settlement with the Irish government.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...ir-aerlingus-idUSL5E7MF3WG20111115

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Delay to body scanners at DUB -

Dublin Airport body scanner tests delayed until 2012

Speaking to TheJournal.ie today, a spokesperson for the Dublin Airport Authority said that its body scanners are “fully compliant with those regulations”.
However, an 18-month-long testing period of the scanners will not begin at the airport until early next year. The testing, which involves airport staff only, was expected to get underway late this year.

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-airp...delayed-until-2012-279109-Nov2011/

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Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:19 am

Good week ahead for NOC:

Quote:
Ryanair will next week unveil a number of new routes from Knock Airport, with at least one expected to be to the UK and two others to continental Europe.
Taoiseach Enda Kenny will join Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary at the airport next Monday to reveal the new services, which are expected to come on stream for next summer.
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http://www.independent.ie/business/i...airs-new-knock-routes-2935670.html
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:48 pm

Aer Lingus doing some tweaking to their Shannon longhaul operation for Summer 2012; SNN-BOS is to be upgraded to 4 weekly April-August and SNN-JFK is being reduced to 3 weekly. After the 3rd August it goes back to the usual 4 weekly JFK, 3 weekly BOS. It may change again, EI typically don't finalise their summer timetable until mid-December. Not a surprise really given the amount of capacity on SNN-NYC. All shorthaul routes are so far untouched.
 
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Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:56 pm

Aeroflot are to commence a three times weekly service in 2012 using an A320 . Great news   
 
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Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:01 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 189):

Aeroflot are to commence a three times weekly service in 2012 using an A320 . Great news

Yes excellent news, some good L/H connection opportunities and always good to have increased variety at DUB. I wonder will be see DL putting a codeshare on these flights to connect to their JFK and ATL services or do the timings allow??

I've said it before recently and repeat now, well done to the DAA on their continued efforts to secure new airlines and routes into DUB. (EK, UA to IAD etc).
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Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:29 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 189):
Aeroflot are to commence a three times weekly service in 2012 using an A320 . Great news   

Great news indeed. Hopefully the flight times are more "spotter friendly" than the S7 flights.
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:40 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 188):
Aer Lingus doing some tweaking to their Shannon longhaul operation for Summer 2012; SNN-BOS is to be upgraded to 4 weekly April-August and SNN-JFK is being reduced to 3 weekly. After the 3rd August it goes back to the usual 4 weekly JFK, 3 weekly BOS. It may change again, EI typically don't finalise their summer timetable until mid-December. Not a surprise really given the amount of capacity on SNN-NYC. All shorthaul routes are so far untouched.

That is about time.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:10 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 188):
Aer Lingus doing some tweaking to their Shannon longhaul operation for Summer 2012; SNN-BOS is to be upgraded to 4 weekly April-August and SNN-JFK is being reduced to 3 weekly. After the 3rd August it goes back to the usual 4 weekly JFK, 3 weekly BOS. It may change again, EI typically don't finalise their summer timetable until mid-December. Not a surprise really given the amount of capacity on SNN-NYC. All shorthaul routes are so far untouched.

It makes sense for now given they have BOS to themselves...... but I'm still hoping and praying for some A321Neo's in the long run...... 
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:51 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 193):
It makes sense for now given they have BOS to themselves...... but I'm still hoping and praying for some A321Neo's in the long run......

Hear hear! Spare the A330 for ORD   
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:31 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 189):

Very exciting! shame the TU-154 &134's are still not around. Could we see twice weekly LED soon to come?
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:44 am

Quoting Jambost (Reply 195):
Very exciting! shame the TU-154 &134's are still not around. Could we see twice weekly LED soon to come?

From Ireland, LED is the bigger tourist draw, but SU don't seem all that keen on flying from LED, to... well, pretty much anywhere outside Russia!
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:30 am

Quoting Jambost (Reply 195):
Very exciting! shame the TU-154 &134's are still not around. Could we see twice weekly LED soon to come?

Yeah indeed. Also it wasnt that long ago that SU closed their ticket office which was located near McDonalds in T1. Lovely lady who was there for years was let go . I guess Sky Handling will get the contract.
 
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:50 am

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 188):
Aer Lingus doing some tweaking to their Shannon longhaul operation for Summer 2012; SNN-BOS is to be upgraded to 4 weekly April-August and SNN-JFK is being reduced to 3 weekly. After the 3rd August it goes back to the usual 4 weekly JFK, 3 weekly BOS. It may change again, EI typically don't finalise their summer timetable until mid-December. Not a surprise really given the amount of capacity on SNN-NYC. All shorthaul routes are so far untouched.

We've been mooting this one for a long time now. It always comes as a surprise to most that SNN-BOS has traditioally been one of the stronger performers of EI's long haul network (at least until recently). SNN-NYC is a crowded market with no less than three airlines with up to four daily flights during the summer peak (quite alot of capacity when you think about it).

Quoting Jambost (Reply 195):
Hear hear! Spare the A330 for ORD

I would gladly sacrifice EI's SNN-JFK service in place of a three weekly SNN-ORD service. My preference for flying to NYC is to fly to EWR just because it is so much handier to get to Manhattan from EWR.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 189):
Aeroflot are to commence a three times weekly service in 2012 using an A320 . Great news

Always good to hear of airlines returning to Ireland after a long absence. Perhaps FR's recent spate of hissy fits of cutting services because of increased charges at DUB may just be the catalyst that tips airlines to look at DUB again.
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RE: Irish 22/11: Samhain Sa Speir

Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:01 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 186):
Obviously on the whole it's a very complex setup - it took me a while to get my head round it!

I often wondering about the gate numbering system at SNN as it seemed to be very complicated and resulted in gate numbers that were quite a bit larger than the actual number of gates there are at SNN. So,if I interpret your description correctly, some gates have up to four gate numbers numbers e.g. if you board through Gate 11, 12, 111 or 112, the aircraft is parked at Stand 39 in all four cases. If you board through Gate 11, you board via an airbridge for a flight that has not been precleared, if you board through Gate 111, you board via the airbridge for a flight that has been precleared, if you board through Gate 12, you board via the air stairs for a flight that has not been precleared and if you board through Gate 112, you board via the air stairs for a flight that has been precleared.

Phew! That is pretty complicated. I can only imagine trying to have to explain that to the guy who was putting up the signs.

Seeing as we are on this topic, I've noticed plenty of times in the past the remains of a few more airbridges are still attached to the terminal at SNN where the airbridge itself has long since been removed. They've been like that for a long time now but I've always been curious as to when were these taken out? They were obviously removed to allow room for more widebodies to park at the terminal building.
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