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What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:03 pm

My g/f, who is a KL f/a studying french, would like to know what french call the B747 and 777. In english we are all pretty familiar with their common names, but what do french speaking crews and passengers say? "Sept cents soixante-dix-sept"? That seems like quite a mouthful, so there must be a shorter version available.
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:29 pm

Can't answer for the French but I find it interesting; generally in Australia we refer to them as;

777 = Triple seven
747 = Seven four seven
767 = Seven six seven
737 = Seven three seven

and so on.... It sounds exceptionally American and generally strange for us to refer to them as;

747 = Seven forty-seven
767 = Seven sixty-seven etc...

Not saying one is right or wrong just different accents really (well technically it's an American built plane so Seven-Forty-Seven is correct lol).

As a native English speaker, I enjoy the regional differences in our language (even states in Australia have small accent differences).
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:32 pm

747= "Sept quatre sept" or "Sept cent quarante sept"

777 = "triple 7" or "Sept cent soixante dix sept". Nobody says "sept sept sept" for the 777.
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:33 pm

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 1):
and so on.... It sounds exceptionally American and generally strange for us to refer to them as;

747 = Seven forty-seven
767 = Seven sixty-seven etc...

At Boeing we refer to them by the whole number (e.g. Seven-six-seven, not seven-sixty-seven).

Supposedly AF calls the 777 the best airplane in their fleet from what I've been told.  
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:34 pm

I know the 737 and 747 were called the sept-trois-sept and sept-quatre (cat)-sept. I think the 777 is pronounced like sept-soixante-dix-sept.
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:37 pm

Quoting 76er (Thread starter):
would like to know what french call the B747

c'est 'Le Jumbo Jet' !  
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:37 pm

Native French speaker here.

747 is definitely "sept cent quarante-sept".

777, well, not sure how airlines generally name it, but I would think "sept cent soixante-dix-sept" rather than "triple sept". In Belgium, assuming a Belgian airline would operate the 777, this would be "sept cent septante-sept".

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:42 pm

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 4):
I know the 737 and 747 were called the sept-trois-sept and sept-quatre (cat)-sept. I think the 777 is pronounced like sept-soixante-dix-sept.

Industry insiders/enthusiasts may say "sept trente-sept" (7-37) and "sept quarante-sept" (7-47) to shorten, but cabin crews won't say that to passengers. Definitely "sept cent trente-sept" and "sept cent quarante-sept", as in "Mesdames et messieurs, bienvenue à bord de ce Boeing sept cent trente-sept" (Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board this Boeing 737).

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:42 pm

Yes. If you speak "French" French, you may say "sept-cent soixant-dix sept." If you speak "good" French (i.e. Swiss French) you would say "sept-cent septante-sept" which makes a lot more sense when counting.   

In English, you would say "Seven hundred seventy seven", not "seven hundred sixty-ten-seven"...

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:44 pm

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):
If you speak "good" French (i.e. Swiss French) you would say "sept-cent septante-sept"

Or Belgian French for that matter  
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:48 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
Supposedly AF calls the 777 the best airplane in their fleet from what I've been told.

I think this is certainly true. The French are 'blamed' to be patriotic (something I believe that some ways is really admiring) but they have fabou

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):
Yes. If you speak "French" French, you may say "sept-cent soixant-dix sept." If you speak "good" French (i.e. Swiss French) you would say "sept-cent septante-sept" which makes a lot more sense when counting.

In English, you would say "Seven hundred seventy seven", not "seven hundred sixty-ten-seven"...

I suppose this is irony.....????

A Boeing 777 is never called "seven hundred seventy seven" (don't blame the French counting system, this is simply a fact that you can't change. BTW: Danish is worst   ). As I mentioned in reply 4, I think en français on dit: le Boeing sept-soixante-dix-sept.   
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:50 pm

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 9):
Or Belgian French for that matter

This is why I like Belgian and Swiss numbers.....they're so much easier to remember than French ones, for an English speaker. I've been speaking French for about 30 years, and I still find the numbers difficult!
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:54 pm

"sept quarante sept" and "triple sept" as far as I know...
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:09 pm

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 10):
I think en français on dit: le Boeing sept-soixante-dix-sept.


Not really. As I wrote, "sept cent soixante-dix-sept" is the "natural" way to say 777 when talking to passengers.

The French part of this KQ 777-200 safety video clearly says it so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OYyxyCsZi8

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:17 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 2):
777 = "triple 7" or "Sept cent soixante dix sept". Nobody says "sept sept sept" for the 777.

A little off topic, but is interesting to note that in Portuguese (at least in Brazil) we refer to the 777 as "sete sete sete".

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:03 pm

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 6):
In Belgium, assuming a Belgian airline would operate the 777

Well, one is operating the sept cent septante sept.

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 11):
they're so much easier to remember than French ones, for an English speaker.

I take it you haven't counted to 80 in Belgium much then, have you? Hint: quatre vingt.
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:39 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
At Boeing we refer to them by the whole number (e.g. Seven-six-seven, not seven-sixty-seven).

I've often heard the first 7 dropped, so it is four-seven, three-seven or triple seven.
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:54 pm

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 15):
I take it you haven't counted to 80 in Belgium much then, have you? Hint: quatre vingt.

Some French-speaking Swiss outside Geneva (thus, further away from the French border) really get this right: "huitante."

I learned my French in Geneva and thus "soixante dix" and "quatre vingt dix" have always seemed very odd to me. I'm not a native at all, but I'd call a 777 a "sept cent septante-sept" without even thinking about it.

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:54 pm

Royale for the 777 and a Double Royale for the 747?

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:10 am

Quoting 76er (Thread starter):
My g/f, who is a KL f/a studying french, would like to know what french call the B747 and 777. In english we are all pretty familiar with their common names, but what do french speaking crews and passengers say? "Sept cents soixante-dix-sept"? That seems like quite a mouthful, so there must be a shorter version available.

In french Canada we say:
747: «sept, quarante-sept» ou »sept, cent, quarante-sept»
777: «sept, soixante-dix-sept» ou sept, cent-soixante-dix-sept»
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:19 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):
Yes. If you speak "French" French, you may say "sept-cent soixant-dix sept." If you speak "good" French (i.e. Swiss French) you would say "sept-cent septante-sept" which makes a lot more sense when counting.

What do you mean? Sixty-seventeen is perfectly cromulent english.

Quoting 76er (Thread starter):
"Sept cents soixante-dix-sept"? That seems like quite a mouthful, so there must be a shorter version available.

French in general is a mouthful. Seems about 50% longer than it needs to be, when written anyway, compared to many other languages.
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:26 am

Quoting BlueJuice (Reply 18):

Royale for the 777 and a Double Royale for the 747?

And the A380 is just "Le Big Bus"?
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:29 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):
Yes. If you speak "French" French, you may say "sept-cent soixant-dix sept." If you speak "good" French (i.e. Swiss French) you would say "sept-cent septante-sept" which makes a lot more sense when counting

Wow. I learned French for 10 years and never knew there was another way of counting. As an English speaker I find saying "70" more commonsensical than "60-10" so I think I might actually adopt "septante" in future!

Out of interest how do you says "80"??? Is it still "quatre-vinght"
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:43 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 1):
Can't answer for the French but I find it interesting; generally in Australia we refer to them as;

777 = Triple seven
747 = Seven four seven
767 = Seven six seven
737 = Seven three seven

In the US we use a shortened slang type of saying the name of the model by using the first two digits only. Seven-three for the 737, Seven-six for 767, etc. In Canada I have heard their pilots use a similar slang but they use the last two digits only. Three-seven for 737, Six-seven for 767. Call it what you want, it is a damn good airplane!
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:46 am

Quoting doug_Or (Reply 21):
And the A380 is just "Le Big Bus"?

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:47 am

Quoting doug_Or (Reply 21):

And the A380 is just "Le Big Bus"?

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:59 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 22):
Out of interest how do you says "80"??? Is it still "quatre-vinght"

vingt?
Anyway, I still think it gets absurd when you reach "four-twenty-ten-seven". I'm sure we counted like that in English in the distant past (4 score and seventeen), but someone realized that ninety-seven was a bit simpler to deal with.
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:04 am

sieben vier sieben oder sieben sieben und vierzig?

direct translation: seven four seven or seven seven and forty.
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:23 am

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 26):
vingt

sorry! typing fast and not proof reading...

Quoting tayser (Reply 27):
sieben vier sieben oder sieben sieben und vierzig?

I presume you do know that that's German not French, right? Just checking!
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:31 am

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
Supposedly AF calls the 777 the best airplane in their fleet from what I've been told.

But many people having flown AF 777 in Eco call them "boîte à sardines" (sardine cans), due to their 10 abreast config.
        
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:11 am

How come they use the "hundred"? I have never heard a 747 called a "seven hundred forty seven".
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:28 am

Quoting oksman (Reply 14):
A little off topic, but is interesting to note that in Portuguese (at least in Brazil) we refer to the 777 as "sete sete sete".

Denis

As far as I know it is the same thing in Spanish: "Boeing siete cuatro siete", "Boeing siete siete siete", etc. However, curiously enough, it is totally different for Airbus: "Airbus trescientos ochenta", "Airbus trescientos veintiuno", etc. My guess is that it is because whole tens in Airbus nomenclature make the number short enough to say it that way, but that it would be too long for Boeing numbers. That said, it is just that, a guess.
 
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:33 am

How come in English, it is always the seven-seven-seven, rather than seven-seventy seven?
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:45 am

"Tres sale avion." Translated to english means "very dirty airplane."   
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:50 am

Add also sept-CENT-cinquante-sept /.soixante-sept / trente-sept. As well as A-trois-CENT-dix / dix-huit / dix-neuf / vingt / trente / quarante / quatre-vingt...

Cent tends to go away among aviation educated people, at least for the Boeings.


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Tough question now for you in francophone Switzerland: how do you call the A380 alors?

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 11):
This is why I like Belgian and Swiss numbers.....they're so much easier to remember than French ones, for an English speaker. I've been speaking French for about 30 years, and I still find the numbers difficult!

Well, these numbers in French from France don't make sense and so it is, c'est la vie cher Monsieur. The Belgian and Swiss makes a lot more sense, I agree.
Ever wondered about Quebec and other francophone parts of Canada (where many roots of old French from the 17th century are still in use) ? Exact same as France, so, this weird numbering system was not invented yesterday....

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 15):
I take it you haven't counted to 80 in Belgium much then, have you? Hint: quatre vingt.

Touche.

Quoting TGV (Reply 29):
But many people having flown AF 777 in Eco call them "boîte à sardines" (sardine cans), due to their 10 abreast config.

Yeah but that does not specifically applies to French people!
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:18 am

Quoting kanban (Reply 24):
Quoting doug_Or (Reply 21):
And the A380 is just "Le Big Bus"?

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I should have translated - "beached whale"
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:18 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 22):
Wow. I learned French for 10 years and never knew there was another way of counting.

Same here (except for the ten years part). A.net is quite the educational site.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 17):

Some French-speaking Swiss outside Geneva (thus, further away from the French border) really get this right: "huitante."

So, would that make the next one neufante? (To keep this on topic, then, that would make Boeing's next new plane the sept cent neufant sept.)

Way back when I was in middle school, taking French class, I'd try and work aviation into my speaking, and my teacher would always insist on me saying the full number (sept cent quarante sept). That said, I don't think my teacher necessarily knew that was specifically how airlines said it, but that's how the number was pronounced.

In English (well, American English, at least) we tend to shorten numbers as we say them (one thirty-five instead of one hundred thirty five; twenty-six hundred instead of two thousand six hundred, etc.), so shortening airplane designations just fits in with how we say numbers in general (A three eighty instead of A three hundred eighty). So, back in nineteen ninety four, our French teacher was teaching us to pronounce the year mille neuf cent quatre-vingt quatorze (I hope I spelled that right; haven't taken a French class in dix ans).
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:33 am

Quoting hOmSaR (Reply 36):
In English (well, American English, at least) we tend to shorten numbers as we say them

Bon point! Years being a classic example of this... 20-12 rather than "deux mille et douze"
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:07 am

Here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=b2MYrUbZhN0

definately "sept cent soixante-dix-sept"
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:15 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):
In English, you would say "Seven hundred seventy seven",

No, that's American, not English. In English ( if one were going to say it in the long format) " Seven hundred and seventy seven" , in practice I have never heard anyone refer to it as anything but a "triple 7" ( unless they are talking about specific variants such as 77W or 77L )
 
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:25 am

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 15):
I take it you haven't counted to 80 in Belgium much then, have you? Hint: quatre vingt.

That all depends where you're actually counting      

http://quizlet.com/457490/flemish-numbers-flash-cards/ "Tachtig" I think.

Would that be "Zeven Zeven Zeven" for a 777  
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:49 am

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 34):
Quoting TGV (Reply 29):
But many people having flown AF 777 in Eco call them "boîte à sardines" (sardine cans), due to their 10 abreast config.


Yeah but that does not specifically applies to French people!

You are right, I guess all French speaking people agree on this description, while the ways of saying the numbers vary.

Quoting hOmSaR (Reply 36):
In English (well, American English, at least) we tend to shorten numbers as we say them (one thirty-five instead of one hundred thirty five; twenty-six hundred instead of two thousand six hundred, etc.), so shortening airplane designations just fits in with how we say numbers in general (A three eighty instead of A three hundred eighty). So, back in nineteen ninety four, our French teacher was teaching us to pronounce the year mille neuf cent quatre-vingt quatorze (I hope I spelled that right; haven't taken a French class in dix ans).

To check your writing :
http://www.leconjugueur.com/frnombre.php

In France we don't shorten numbers, you will never hear "vingt-onze" for "deux mille onze".
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:07 am

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 39):
that's American, not English

Touche  
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:43 am

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 5):
Quoting 76er (Thread starter):
would like to know what french call the B747

c'est 'Le Jumbo Jet' !

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:04 am

I always say: 747: sept cent quarante sept---777: sept cent soixante dix sept. Also, when it is a Boeing, I say: "Boeing 747"(never Boeing B747), and for an Airbus, I say "Airbus A320 (A trois cent vingt)" (never Airbus 320)
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:10 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):
If you speak "good" French (i.e. Swiss French) you would say "sept-cent septante-sept" which makes a lot more sense when counting.

I agree. But ... wait ... I'm Swiss  
 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:13 am

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 20):
French in general is a mouthful. Seems about 50% longer than it needs to be, when written anyway, compared to many other languages.

It can be much longer, when it is in fact poorly translated. An original French text won't be much longer, if not shorter, than its English version.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 37):
Quoting hOmSaR (Reply 36):
In English (well, American English, at least) we tend to shorten numbers as we say them

Bon point! Years being a classic example of this... 20-12 rather than "deux mille et douze"
Quoting hOmSaR (Reply 36):
In English (well, American English, at least) we tend to shorten numbers as we say them (one thirty-five instead of one hundred thirty five; twenty-six hundred instead of two thousand six hundred, etc.), so shortening airplane designations just fits in with how we say numbers in general (A three eighty instead of A three hundred eighty). So, back in nineteen ninety four, our French teacher was teaching us to pronounce the year mille neuf cent quatre-vingt quatorze (I hope I spelled that right; haven't taken a French class in dix ans).

All this is because, in fact, nombers are shorter in French than in English. I will make an exception for that dreaded "quatre-vingt-dix-neuf"... But, almost all else is much shorter in French, especially when using the Belgian/Swiss way of calling numbers...

For example, this famous Orwellian novel:
1984
Mille neuf cent quatre-vingt-quatre (French French)
Mille neuf cent huitante-quatre (Swiss French)
One thousand nine hundred eighty-four (English)


Or, let's say:
1111
Mille cent onze
One thousand one hundred and eleven

 
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:26 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 44):
I always say: 747: sept cent quarante sept---777: sept cent soixante dix sept. Also, when it is a Boeing, I say: "Boeing 747"(never Boeing B747), and for an Airbus, I say "Airbus A320 (A trois cent vingt)" (never Airbus 320)

This is absolutely correct in France. This would also apply for Belgian French with the exception of 777 and 797 (when it exists) as numbers in the 70-79 and 90-99 range are pronounced differently here (and in Switzerland). However, all Belgian French speakers will understand those numbers pronounced the French way without hesitation.

Obviously, you will sometimes hear French speakers drop the "cent", but as the OP specifically mentioned that his g/f is an F/A, the long form with the "cent" is definitely the way to go when addressing passengers.

Quoting hOmSaR (Reply 36):
So, would that make the next one neufante? (To keep this on topic, then, that would make Boeing's next new plane the sept cent neufant sept.)

90 = "quatre-vingt-dix" in France and "nonante" in French speaking Belgium. So, 797 is "sept cent quatre-ving-dix-sept" in France and "sept cent nonante-sept" in Belgium.

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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:26 am

777 = Triple Sept.... Or "Triple Sieste" (Triple Rest) due to the many reinforced crew routes it runs @ AF....
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RE: What Do The French Call The 747 And 777?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:42 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 16):
I've often heard the first 7 dropped, so it is four-seven, three-seven or triple seven.

you obviously live in Chicago.

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