shufflemoomin
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What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:32 am

After reading an article today that Easyjet was considering setting up a base in CPH, I wondered what having a "base" somewhere really means besides basing some aircraft or crew there. As a passenger, does having a base at your local airport actually make a difference?
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:41 am

Quoting shufflemoomin (Thread starter):
After reading an article today that Easyjet was considering setting up a base in CPH, I wondered what having a "base" somewhere really means besides basing some aircraft or crew there. As a passenger, does having a base at your local airport actually make a difference

Not really.... it may make a slight difference to reliability because having aircraft based means chances of having a spare aircraft are higher, but that's really about it!

A base is simply aircraft overnighting and crews living locally.
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:03 am

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 1):
and crews living locally.

Which also helps if crew times out and they need reserve crew members. Better they are based locally instead of being flown in.

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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:16 am

Quoting shufflemoomin (Thread starter):
As a passenger, does having a base at your local airport actually make a difference?

It does if, like many business travellers, you prefer flights that leave early in the morning and return late at night.
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:20 am

A base is a domicile that has pilots and flight attendants that are assigned to fly trips out of the respective city and return to the same city. STL is not a base for WN but it does have 7 overnighters ( ac that come in and terminate).
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:22 am

Quoting shufflemoomin (Thread starter):
As a passenger, does having a base at your local airport actually make a difference?

In normal terms I would say NO. The pax don't care where the aircraft/crew are based as they just want a flight that suits them.

However as above having crew at a base is probably a bit more reliable in times of disruption that for pax located beside/at an airline destination/outstation.

I would also query a certain level of base in regards to quantity of fleet units based there. FR has over 40 bases in Europe, however quite a number of these have less than 3 aircraft based there, should this have its own term?
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:39 am

In AA terms, no aircraft is "based" anywhere. They fly wherever they are scheduled and that schedule is determined partly by where the maintenance capability exists. For flight crew (pilots & flight attendants), a "base" is a "domicile." It is where the administrative support is located and where all trips begin and end. That's the basics with every airline having slight variations and even variations amongst the different "bases" of the same airline.
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:06 am

When i was working for EZy, a base meant based aircraft and crews with a maintenance facility. This could be full maintenance or simple line maintenance.

So, for CPH i would think they have an agreement with a local maintenance provider to carry out regular line checks and troubleshooting/rectification.

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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:16 am

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 5):
FR has over 40 bases in Europe, however quite a number of these have less than 3 aircraft based there, should this have its own term?

FR's aircraft are registered in Ireland so their ultimate base is DUB.
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:22 pm

Thanks for all the replies everyone. You've all pretty much reaffirmed what I already believed. I just wondered why news of a possible U2 base in CPH made the normal papers. I wondered why anyone outside of aviation would care.
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:11 pm

Quoting richardw (Reply 8):
FR's aircraft are registered in Ireland so their ultimate base is DUB.

Their HQ is in Dublin but their largest operations base is London Stansted.
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:54 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 10):
Their HQ is in Dublin but their largest operations base is London Stansted.

Yep, aware of that. I was just making a comment about where the aircraft are registered, even though they operate at STN in a similar way to U2 but their aircraft are registered in EI and easyJet's in the UK.
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:28 pm

Quoting shufflemoomin (Thread starter):
As a passenger, does having a base at your local airport actually make a difference?

I means they all depart early morning, so you have to awake really early.

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 9):
I just wondered why news of a possible U2 base in CPH made the normal papers. I wondered why anyone outside of aviation would care.

It means some jobs created, making taxes and other income to other business.
 
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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:42 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
It does if, like many business travellers, you prefer flights that leave early in the morning and return late at night.

You don't need a base for that. You can night stop crew and aircraft for an early morning departure without having a 'base' at the particular airport.

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RE: What Does A "base" Really Mean?

Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:45 pm

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 13):
You don't need a base for that. You can night stop crew and aircraft for an early morning departure without having a 'base' at the particular airport.

That is usually the case in the US. The crew bases are many time at hubs. Most of the fleet overnights at the ends of the spokes and flys into the hub early in the morning. Some bases are focus cities that also see a round of early departures to the various hubs. Now a maintenance station is set up in a city where there are a lot of flights like hubs or where there are a lot of overnights. Some stations are just good deals for an airline. For DL a couple are SAV and CHS. Neither really have a lot of flights or a lot of overnights but the are cheap warm weather cities to operate a couple of 'A' checks every night out of.

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