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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:04 pm

Quoting rdh3e (Reply 98):
Those headphones are so bad, that if you're stuck behind the wing in a window seat you cannot hear the sound even with the volume all the way up.



I tried just once to use the headphones purely out of curiosity, never again. Can't even believe anyone can get the ear-bud in their ear to hear a thing let alone over the wing.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:11 pm

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 99):
What is the schedule for these a/c modifications? One complete every X weeks?

Well, aircraft 0060 was not operating per Flight Aware from Sep 9 to Nov 23 - that's nine plus weeks. Let's hope the rest don't take that long.
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:55 pm

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 69):
PMUA charges coach for access most AVOD.
Quoting rdh3e (Reply 82):
Since when has UA been charging for their IFE? I work here and I've never heard of such a thing, and I fly quite frequently. I flew MNL-GUM-NRT-SEA-ORD (this weekend) and had headsets for $3 on CO and no charge the whole way on UA.
Quoting Sulley (Reply 84):
UA charges for "premium content" on their internationally configured aircraft with AVOD.
Quoting rdh3e (Reply 90):
Quick question, what is considered "premium content"? I did ORD-FRA last week in Y+ on the new config and never encountered anything that was restricted.

Ok well sorry to disappoint here people but I flew on a IPTE UA777 from LAX to LHR on sunday evening and there was no "Premium Content" on the AVOD - none at all. I have no clue where you guys dreamed this one up at.....
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:01 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 97):
The info I was given is that they were launching the eX3 system which I mistakenly thought Panasonic was branding as eco 9i....I've been wrong before

I've been wrong before too... plenty of times. This time, I hope you're right!  
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:08 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 102):
Ok well sorry to disappoint here people but I flew on a IPTE UA777 from LAX to LHR on sunday evening and there was no "Premium Content" on the AVOD - none at all. I have no clue where you guys dreamed this one up at.....

They actually didn't dream it up...UA was charging in Y class on the IPTE 777s for certain premium content on the AVOD system. It was a test to see if they could generate more revenue that it sounds like they ended....
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:18 pm

Quoting flybhx764 (Reply 87):
CO #106 - 28 NOV IAH - EWR
CO #106 - 28 NOV EWR - MUC
CO #107 - 29 NOV MUC - EWR
CO #106 - 29 NOV EWR - MUC
CO #107 - 30 NOV MUC - EWR
CO #080 - 30 NOV EWR - GVA
CO #081 - 01 DEC GVA - EWR

Going to Munich twice it looks like.

Thanks for the update, I can still hope for my FRA-IAH flight on the 4th...

When will ships 2 and 3 be done? soon?
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:58 pm

CO #080 - 30 NOV EWR - GVA
CO #081 - 01 DEC GVA - EWR
CO #044 - 01 DEC EWR - MXP
CO #045 - 02 DEC MXP - EWR
CO #080 - 02 DEC EWR - GVA
CO #081 - 03 DEC GVA - EWR
CO #106 - 04 DEC EWR - GVA
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:36 pm

CO #081 - 03 DEC GVA - EWR
CO #044 - 03 DEC EWR - MXP
CO #045 - 04 DEC MXP - EWR
CO #106 - 04 DEC EWR - MUC
CO #107 - 05 DEC MUC - EWR
CO #080 - 05 DEC EWR - GVA
CO #081 - 06 DEC GVA - EWR
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:04 am

Quoting flybhx764 (Reply 107):

CO #081 - 03 DEC GVA - EWR
CO #044 - 03 DEC EWR - MXP
CO #045 - 04 DEC MXP - EWR
CO #106 - 04 DEC EWR - MUC
CO #107 - 05 DEC MUC - EWR
CO #080 - 05 DEC EWR - GVA
CO #081 - 06 DEC GVA - EWR

Thanks for the updates!
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:44 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 102):
Ok well sorry to disappoint here people but I flew on a IPTE UA777 from LAX to LHR on sunday evening and there was no "Premium Content" on the AVOD - none at all. I have no clue where you guys dreamed this one up at.....

Not a dream. Fortunately UA/CO decided to stick with the PMCO model of free AVOD for all.

http://upgrd.com/matthew/united-test...-view-avod-on-777s-in-economy.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-ipte-b777-ife-united-economy.html
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:00 pm

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 109):

Now that the airline is just UNITED, albeit the man behind the curtain is CO, many things that are not uniform will need to ultimately become consistent. We keep referring to the Pre merger flat and level bed-like seats from CO as BusinessFirst, does United plan to keep that name for the 2 class aircraft? Like:

767 and 777 3 class
Economy, Economy Plus, Business, First Class

Some 757, 767 and 777 2 class
Economy, Economy Plus, Business OR BusinessFirst?

It seems if I am booking a flight in business I'd like to know which seat I'm getting. Just like on this new 767-400, it would be good to know if it's a 2 or 3 class 767.

Would UA ever stick with their "Plus" naming convention and rename the BusinessFirst section Business Plus? Not a sexy name, but it is very United eg: Economy Plus, Mileage Plus, ExPlus etc.

Back to the new 767-400: if I booked BusinessPlus I would instantly know it's 2 class with no First available AND try and score that center seat!
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:21 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 110):
Would UA ever stick with their "Plus" naming convention and rename the BusinessFirst section Business Plus? Not a sexy name, but it is very United eg: Economy Plus, Mileage Plus, ExPlus etc.

Back to the new 767-400: if I booked BusinessPlus I would instantly know it's 2 class with no First available AND try and score that center seat!

That would make sense, but I guess that most flyers would expect more perks in comparison to normal Business Class. Taking that in consideration, I think it would be simpler to phase out BusinessFirst.

[Edited 2011-12-04 11:37:27]
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:25 pm

The seats are the same seat, so they should have the same name.

NS
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:10 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 112):

I think the seats are very similar, agreed, but there are small differences. Small trade-offs but given I fly internationally once or twice a month, I am fussy. Shame on me as anyone who gets to fly business has no right to be fussy. The UA seat, which I love, I think is longer with a better foot rest but zero storage and very close to your neighbor (and I find the seat cushion on the flat/level bed-like seat more comfortable, like UA First- and if I know it's a 3 class bird I can get into First if I need the treat) the CO seat while similar has more room between you and your neighbor but it's foot rest is too small for my big feet and I don't find it's as comfortable to sleep on- but heck, it's still nice. And while small, it does have a bit of storage which is much missed on UA.

Also: I personally like to fly backwards- take off is a trip!
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:43 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 112):
The seats are the same seat, so they should have the same name.

Same seat, different housing. Of course different fabrics at the minute as well. Hopefully UA can design something a little more dynamic for their new look.
I imagine BusinessFirst will soon disappear and It will simply be First, Business, EconomyPlus and Economy. Many airlines have some 3 and some 2 class aircraft, they don't differentiate between the fleets. Of course the seat will always be slightly different, but the soft product should be identical.
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:35 pm

CO #107 - 05 DEC MUC - EWR
CO #080 - 05 DEC EWR - GVA
CO #081 - 06 DEC GVA - EWR
CO #107 - 06 DEC EWR - IAH
CO #053 - 06 DEC IAH - EZE
CO #052 - 07 DEC EZE - IAH
 
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:20 pm

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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:21 pm

I am confused with all of the different seats being used by UA/CO... is the economy seat used on the new upgraded 764 different the crappy uncomfortable seat being used on the 739ERs?
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:40 pm

Not exactly.

The 739ERs uncomfortable seat was a Koito. New ones are being delivered with this seat.

NS
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:05 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 118):
Not exactly.

The 739ERs uncomfortable seat was a Koito. New ones are being delivered with this seat.

NS

These are actually comfortable (as much as a Y seat can be).
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:07 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 117):
is the economy seat used on the new upgraded 764 different the crappy uncomfortable seat being used on the 739ERs?
Quoting gigneil (Reply 118):
The 739ERs uncomfortable seat was a Koito. New ones are being delivered with this seat.

The 739s and 739ERs actually have 3 different types of seats. The oldest have Koito:


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And the newest ones (ship 443 and newer) have B/E Pinnacle seats which are being installed on new 738s, 739ERs, and 787s and well as on the refurbished 764s and 763s.

I think the non-ER 739s may be the only ones with Koito seats but I'm not certain. I've never seen an ER with Koito seats.
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:14 pm

I must not be a huge fan of the Spectrum either then...

The Pinnacle seat is quite comfortable, the once or twice I've sat in one in my life.

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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:15 pm

The United A320 seats are a Recaro, right? Just for me own edification?

NS
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:30 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 122):
The United A320 seats are a Recaro, right? Just for me own edification?

NS

Correct  
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:44 pm

CO #052 - 07 DEC EZE - IAH
CO #058 - 08 DEC IAH - AMS
CO #059 - 09 DEC AMS - IAH
CO #046 - 09 DEC IAH - FRA
CO #047 - 10 DEC FRA - IAH
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:32 am

Quoting flybhx764 (Reply 124):
CO #052 - 07 DEC EZE - IAH
CO #058 - 08 DEC IAH - AMS
CO #059 - 09 DEC AMS - IAH
CO #046 - 09 DEC IAH - FRA
CO #047 - 10 DEC FRA - IAH

Thank you so much for these updates!      
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:29 pm

CO #047 - 10 DEC FRA - IAH
CO #053 - 10 DEC IAH - EZE
CO #047 - 11 DEC EZE - IAH
CO #1182 - 12 DEC IAH - EWR
CO #023 - 12 DEC EWR - IAH
CO #046 - 12 DEC IAH - FRA
CO #047 - 13 DEC FRA - IAH

In IAH alot on the 12th
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:40 pm

CO #047 - 11 DEC EZE - IAH
CO #1182 - 12 DEC IAH - EWR
CO #023 - 12 DEC EWR - IAH
CO #046 - 12 DEC IAH - FRA
CO #047 - 13 DEC FRA - IAH
CO #047 - 13 DEC IAH - GIG
CO #047 - 14 DEC GIG - IAH
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:53 pm

Quoting FL787 (Reply 120):
And the newest ones (ship 443 and newer) have B/E Pinnacle seats which are being installed on new 738s, 739ERs, and 787s and well as on the refurbished 764s and 763s.

FYI, the 738s were originally going to have Koito, however, CO changed to the B/E Pinnacle after the Koito seat test falsification scandal.
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:53 pm

The bulkheads look different? Are they silver like UA? or are they the light CO blue? They don't look blue in the pic on my iPhone!

Why dont any US carriers ever do something with their bulkheads any more (OLD UA and PA) something like the LH yellow craine or the framed art on SQ and BA, Virgin's diamond studded panel and now the new First Conrad class. Not that I'm asking for "Globe 'n a Box" logo. But the 764 looks beautiful but the bulkheads are really boring.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:58 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 129):

Why dont any US carriers ever do something with their bulkheads any more (OLD UA and PA) something like the LH yellow craine or the framed art on SQ and BA, Virgin's diamond studded panel and now the new First Conrad class. Not that I'm asking for "Globe 'n a Box" logo. But the 764 looks beautiful but the bulkheads are really boring.

The same reason why most people don't put flocked wallpaper and shag carpeting in their living rooms anymore.
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:39 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 128):
FYI, the 738s were originally going to have Koito, however, CO changed to the B/E Pinnacle after the Koito seat test falsification scandal.

Many, if not most, UA 738s still have Koito seats.

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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:01 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 131):
Many, if not most, UA 738s still have Koito seats.

Actually, I was specifically refering to the Sky Interior 738s.
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:45 am

Quoting VC10er (Reply 129):
Why dont any US carriers ever do something with their bulkheads any more

You got me there. Lack of creativity?

Quoting letsgetwet (Reply 130):
The same reason why most people don't put flocked wallpaper and shag carpeting in their living rooms anymore.

LOL. You just made me remember how CAL had their old Contrails logo ("meatball") carved into the brown shag carpet on the bulkheads facing both classes. Cool at the time.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 129):
Not that I'm asking for "Globe 'n a Box" logo. But the 764 looks beautiful but the bulkheads are really boring.

Maybe instead of putting the globe in a box - after 20 years, I still can't feature that box - they could orient a giant, tastefully done globe with the vertical border aligned with the aisle... And I'd love to see it in shag.
  

Sadly, a bulkhead redesign is likely low on UA's list of things to do with the 763 and 764 reconfigs.
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:43 pm

CO 047 - 13 DEC FRA - IAH
CO 129 - 13 DEC IAH - GIG
CO 128 - 14 DEC GIG - IAH
CO 129 - 13 DEC IAH - GIG
CO 128 - 14 DEC GIG - IAH
CO 106 - 15 DEC IAH - EWR
CO 106 - 15 DEC EWR - MUC
CO 107 - 16 DEC MUC - EWR
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:37 pm

CO 106 - 15 DEC IAH - EWR
CO 106 - 15 DEC EWR - MUC
CO 107 - 16 DEC MUC - EWR
CO 080 - 16 DEC EWR - GVA
CO 081 - 17 DEC GVA - EWR
CO 080 - 17 DEC EWR - GVA
CO 081 - 18 DEC GVA - EWR
 
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Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:36 pm

CO 107 - 16 DEC MUC - EWR
CO 080 - 16 DEC EWR - GVA
CO 081 - 17 DEC GVA - EWR
CO 031 - 17 DEC EWR - GRU
CO 030 - 18 DEC GRU - EWR
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:16 pm

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 92):
Ah yes, how could I forget? Stock up for your next AVOD trip with a handful from DTV flights!

You can also take the 2 pronged extension off to use on your regular headphones.

Quoting gigneil (Reply 94):
They're putting wifi aboard the A320s and refreshing the interior - I'd like to hear that means LiveTV too.

I'm pretty sure United is done with LiveTV. Too much weight and wiring. They want to go to wireless IFE solutions.

Quoting Sulley (Reply 119):
These are actually comfortable (as much as a Y seat can be).

Koito, or some other seat? It wouldn't be those awful Koito seats.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:02 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 137):
Koito, or some other seat? It wouldn't be those awful Koito seats.

It was previously mentioned that it is the B/E Pinnacle.
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:01 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 137):
I'm pretty sure United is done with LiveTV. Too much weight and wiring. They want to go to wireless IFE solutions.

Last night I flew SEA-IAH on a DirectTV 738. As I waited to use the lav in the rear of the plane, I looked around the cabin to see what everyone was playing on their screens and I would say that around 90% of the screens were tuned to the default programming channel (the featured program was Alcatraz). In my estimation, it seems like there are a significant number of economy class passengers that are not willing to part with $8.00 on a 4 hour flight to rent TV, and who can blame them? So it's very likely that DirecTV is not a cash cow for UA and certainly not worthy of the added weight and installation costs. I realize that this was only one flight but it is a 4 hour flight.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:27 pm

When will the 2nd bird be out? Off on MUC>EWR on 25 Jan. Need to increase my chances of hitching a ride on an upgraded unit.
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:30 pm

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 140):
When will the 2nd bird be out? Off on MUC>EWR on 25 Jan. Need to increase my chances of hitching a ride on an upgraded unit.

It looks like the line may be closed until after the holidays. I see ships #0051-0062 all seem to been flying according to Flight Aware. However #0061 has been in EWR since 12/14. Could it have moved to HKG?

Edited:
I see a UAL 9818 764 operating IAH-HNL-HKG. Halfway to HNL - obviously this is going to be aircraft #2. Ship #0056.

[Edited 2011-12-17 10:44:50]
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:46 pm

Quoting BC77008 (Reply 139):
Last night I flew SEA-IAH on a DirectTV 738. As I waited to use the lav in the rear of the plane, I looked around the cabin to see what everyone was playing on their screens and I would say that around 90% of the screens were tuned to the default programming channel (the featured program was Alcatraz). In my estimation, it seems like there are a significant number of economy class passengers that are not willing to part with $8.00 on a 4 hour flight to rent TV, and who can blame them? So it's very likely that DirecTV is not a cash cow for UA and certainly not worthy of the added weight and installation costs. I realize that this was only one flight but it is a 4 hour flight.

As an employee who obviously takes advantage of my flying benefits, I'm not even going to part with 8 bucks to watch TV. I have also noticed that hardly anyone is using the service. It's just not worth it since they raised the price like they did and I'm not even paying for a ticket!
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:58 pm

CO 030 - 18 DEC GRU - EWR
CO 1491 - 19 DEC EWR - IAH
CO 46 - 19 DEC IAH - FRA
CO 47 - 20 DEC FRA - IAH
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:03 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 137):
I'm pretty sure United is done with LiveTV. Too much weight and wiring. They want to go to wireless IFE solutions.

They are continuing with DirecTv installation with all the 737s (except the 735s), the 757-300s were originally to get DirecTv but as of now have not. I believe they will change the plans for the 757-300s to AVOD, as I expect at least the ETOPS 753s to take over from the PMUA 763s to Hawaii.

Quoting BC77008 (Reply 139):
Last night I flew SEA-IAH on a DirectTV 738. As I waited to use the lav in the rear of the plane, I looked around the cabin to see what everyone was playing on their screens and I would say that around 90% of the screens were tuned to the default programming channel (the featured program was Alcatraz). In

On all my trips I've flown on CO aircraft that were equipped with DIrecTv prettty much most had swipped their credit cards to access the programing,

Quoting BC77008 (Reply 139):
So it's very likely that DirecTV is not a cash cow for UA and certainly not worthy of the added weight and installation costs.

CO does not receive any reveues from the service, LiveTv paid for the installation and in return collects all the revenues. When passengers swipe their credit cards the money goes to LiveTv, not UA. CO did this as a way to provide their customers with a new inflight entertainment option without having it cost the airline anything other than the weight.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:02 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 144):
They are continuing with DirecTv installation with all the 737s (except the 735s), the 757-300s were originally to get DirecTv but as of now have not. I believe they will change the plans for the 757-300s to AVOD, as I expect at least the ETOPS 753s to take over from the PMUA 763s to Hawaii.

On another thread, it has been noted that the 753s will receive only 39 E+ seats in reconfiguration. This would be a low percentage of total Y seats, which to me indicates the aircraft may be rerouted to Hawaii. 24/39/147 is pretty close to the 763s 34/56/154 at a much lower cost of operation. . HNL and KOA wouldn't be an issue, but would LIH at 6500feet and OGG with 7000 feet of runway be an issue with the 753 to the west coast?
 
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Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:12 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 145):
HNL and KOA wouldn't be an issue, but would LIH at 6500feet and OGG with 7000 feet of runway be an issue with the 753 to the west coast?

I know ATA was flying the 757-300 (the same one's CO/UA now have) between OGG and the West Coast, so I would say it's not an issue.


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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:01 pm

CO 59 - 20 DEC AMS - IAH
CO 46 - 20 DEC IAH - FRA
CO 47 - 21 DEC FRA - IAH
 
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Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:53 pm

CO 47 - 21 DEC FRA - IAH
Nothing scheduled for the 22nd so far
CO 106 - 23 DEC IAH - EWR
CO 106 - 23 DEC EWR - MUC
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:06 am

Quoting airlineaddict (Thread starter):
Talk about best of both worlds.

Well, it should be the best of at least three worlds - F, J, E+ or four, including a revamped Y...

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