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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:25 pm

The STS-LAS axing really shocked me. I flew it 4 times and both to and from the flights were always full.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 99):
Not much has been said about the new SJC-RNO service.

Hey D, did you discover yet that one of those r/t SJ-RENO also serves PDX? Flt 2185 op's PDX-SJC-RNO and turns to flt 2184 that does the reverse back up to PDX. I don't know if this is deliberate scheduling to increase PDX-RNO service or just an a/c scheduling convenience.

Also, flt 2183 out of RNO at 6:00am flys to SJC and then continues on to LAX. Again, same question as above but it does provide a direct RNO-LA flight. (There is no similar return service between LA and Reno.)

Finally, I thought I'd mention that 2 of the new SAN Q400 flights -- one to FAT and the STS flight -- continue as direct flights up to PDX as well. Same on the s/b service. So any of us nutty netters who like to take the more exotic routings can now fly a 4-hour Q400 flight from SAN to PDX, and back again! (And get to see FAT and/or STS, from the tarmac anyway, for no charge!)

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 99):
I think if or when QX starts MRY-SEA, it will solidify MRY's position with AS/QX. MRY has its own tourist attractions like Cannery Row, the Monterey Aquarium, Sea Otters, Santa Cruz, etc.

I wonder if the military would also make use of a nonstop flight between MRY and SEA, as I'm sure they will between MRY and SAN?

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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:19 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 101):
I wonder if the military would also make use of a nonstop flight between MRY and SEA, as I'm sure they will between MRY and SAN?

It will be interesting to see how military connected traffic shows up on SAN-FAT. NAS Lemoore is only about a 45 min to 1 hour drive from FAT. NAS Lemoore hosts all of the west coast fighter/attack capability.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:44 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 102):
It will be interesting to see how military connected traffic shows up on SAN-FAT. NAS Lemoore is only about a 45 min to 1 hour drive from FAT. NAS Lemoore hosts all of the west coast fighter/attack capability.

That would make sense especially when you're talking about ship deployments and returns. Does it go for the same on the FAT-SEA route?

Alaska could do a better job at advertizing the new service. They need to use social networking to their advantage...That goes for all airlines advertising all new service.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:56 am

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 103):
Alaska could do a better job at advertizing the new service. They need to use social networking to their advantage...That goes for all airlines advertising all new service.

It is much to early to start aggressively advertising the flights. Perhaps 3-4 months before they start.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:05 am

Quoting sxf24 (Reply 104):
It is much to early to start aggressively advertising the flights. Perhaps 3-4 months before they start.

That could be. My point is that they should use Social Networking to their advantage to announce new service just like they are using it to announce canceled flights, contests and sales.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:32 am

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 103):
That would make sense especially when you're talking about ship deployments and returns. Does it go for the same on the FAT-SEA route?

NAS Lemoore is also a large training base, with lots of transient personnel. Likely it will also end up the west coast home for the F-35s.

I don't know the military influence on the SEA runs.

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 103):
Alaska could do a better job at advertizing the new service.

Already started in this market.

Today's Fresno newspaper had this 1/4 page ad about FAT-SAN for $59ow with double miles:
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:34 am

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 103):
Alaska could do a better job at advertizing the new service. They need to use social networking to their advantage...That goes for all airlines advertising all new service.

Im already seeing Advertisements on Youtube/FlightAware
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:46 am

I've been doing internet searches and noticed quite a few articles on line.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:03 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 70):
I think you're right. There has been MRY-DEN as you indicate; UA did MRY-ORD for a very short time; Air California and PSA did MRY-SFO and to LAX and SNA. I don't recall anything from MRY non-stop to the north either.

Way back when, there was talk from UA of a MRY - PDX - SEA route, but it never happened. UA did operate non-stops MRY to DEN and ORD with 727's.

Air California initially had four routes from MRY... SFO, SMF, SNA and...I can't recall the 4th...maybe SAN? PSA always did just SFO and LAX.

The QX schedule is interesting.... SAN - MRY 6:55pm - 8:37pm. MRY - SAN 7:30am - 9:12am. Is this a plane that just would be sitting overnight in SAN instead? Seems timed for passengers going from MRY to SAN, not so much anyone going from SAN to MRY...or at least returning home to SAN at a time for leisure travelers? Or connections through SAN, not that AS has a lot.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:12 pm

Quoting cschleic (Reply 109):
Or connections through SAN, not that AS has a lot



The flights are timed to connect in SAN with the SJD and PVR flights, both of which leave around 10am. Return flights from PVR and SJD arrive in SAN in the late afternoon. I don't know if that was intentional or not, or if there's even much of market between MRY and Mexico.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:26 pm

I think it also connects with the SAN-HNL flight. I'm hoping SAN gets AS service to KOA and/or LIH in the near future. Hmmm...I wonder if AS would even consider SAN-TUS with Q400's.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:32 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 101):
So any of us nutty netters who like to take the more exotic routings can now fly a 4-hour Q400 flight from SAN to PDX, and back again!

Mmm...that's a lot of free micobrew or wine!  
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:34 pm

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 110):
The flights are timed to connect in SAN with the SJD and PVR flights, both of which leave around 10am. Return flights from PVR and SJD arrive in SAN in the late afternoon. I don't know if that was intentional or not, or if there's even much of market between MRY and Mexico.

I wondered about that. But with large Hispanic populations around the Monterey/Salinas area, perhaps AS will get that traffic, too. Their Mexico flights in general serve more than just U.S. tourists going to sunny weather vacations.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:47 pm

Quoting cschleic (Reply 113):
But with large Hispanic populations around the Monterey/Salinas area, perhaps AS will get that traffic, too.



Yes indeed, especially with PVR. It provides a good gateway for the states of Jalisco, Nayarit, as well as coastal Colima and Michoacan. It's not surprising that quite a few Mexican nationals use PVR as a point of entry to those areas.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:42 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 101):
So any of us nutty netters who like to take the more exotic routings can now fly a 4-hour Q400 flight from SAN to PDX, and back again!

I have spent 4 1/2 hours on a Dash-8 flying from YEG to YVR on Air BC, with 4 stops in between, not as much fun as you'd think, I sure thought it would be fun when I booked it. I did get to see some airports I would have otherwise never seen except from pictures though.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:10 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 101):
So any of us nutty netters who like to take the more exotic routings can now fly a 4-hour Q400 flight from SAN to PDX, and back again! (And get to see FAT and/or STS, from the tarmac anyway, for no charge!)

A friend of mine is fly LAX-SEA via STS next week...that's 4 hours on a Q400. I have a few 2-hour+ flights on Q400's in the near future.

Quoting cschleic (Reply 113):
I wondered about that. But with large Hispanic populations around the Monterey/Salinas area, perhaps AS will get that traffic, too. Their Mexico flights in general serve more than just U.S. tourists going to sunny weather vacations.
Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 114):
Yes indeed, especially with PVR. It provides a good gateway for the states of Jalisco, Nayarit, as well as coastal Colima and Michoacan. It's not surprising that quite a few Mexican nationals use PVR as a point of entry to those areas.

If this is the traffic AS wants to get, then they should fly SAN-GDL.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:07 pm

Actually, you can go all the way from La Paz, Mexico to Edmonton on QX Q400's....via LAX, STS, PDX and SEA, or leave out the PDX stop. True, not the same plane in one day but, still, if you're into that much Q400 noise and want to ride a lot of logo planes, it can be done.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:46 pm

I can see QX starting new routes down to Mexico from SAN using the Q400's, Possible routes: La Paz, Mazatlan. All little fishing villages and are great destinations.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:54 pm

Quoting redrooster3 (Reply 118):
All little fishing villages and are great destinations.

Great destination, yes. Great traffic and yield generator, not so much.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:04 pm

Quoting cschleic (Reply 109):
The QX schedule is interesting.... SAN - MRY 6:55pm - 8:37pm. MRY - SAN 7:30am - 9:12am. Is this a plane that just would be sitting overnight in SAN instead? Seems timed for passengers going from MRY to SAN, not so much anyone going from SAN to MRY...or at least returning home to SAN at a time for leisure travelers? Or connections through SAN, not that AS has a lot

In addition to the connecting options to be offered thru SAN (as I and others have mentioned in this thread), yes, the SAN-MRY-SAN r.t. is a natural extenion of 2 Q400's daily schedules, which are:
(a/c 1) MRY-SAN-STS-PDX-FAT-SAN-FAT and
(a/c 2) FAT-SAN-FAT-PDX-STS-SAN-MRY.

Hopefully, the flights and route between SAN and MRY will do well and maybe a 2nd r/t will be added eventually.

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 111):
I wonder if AS would even consider SAN-TUS with Q400's.

I don't know about AS but I sure have! Actually, my thought has been something like SAN-YUM-TUS, or even SAN-IPL-TUS, or how about the old Bonanza route of SAN-IPL-YUM-TUS (subbing TUS for PHX.) I've thought of this scenario for years now, just waiting and hoping for QX to start some sort of op's here at Lindbergh.

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 116):
If this is the traffic AS wants to get, then they should fly SAN-GDL

Well, if you insist, D! AS was not afraid to go up against AM on the SAN-SJD route for years, apparently chasing AM from the market entirely a year and a half ago; now, I hope, Chester might make a run at Volaris on SAN-GDL. I especially like the chances if and when Mexico, as a whole, again becomes a popular destination for Americans. (For now, I think Y4 can handle the VFR and Mexico-originating traffic in the market.)

I would suspect that if/when AS really gets this SAN-thing going, Mexico would certainly be a part of that.

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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:15 pm

Quoting redrooster3 (Reply 118):
I can see QX starting new routes down to Mexico from SAN using the Q400's, Possible routes: La Paz, Mazatlan. All little fishing villages and are great destinations

Hey red', I wouldn't exactly call MZT a little fishing village, but a potential destination from SAN, definitely! I know there used to be a lot of San Diegans than owned confos/homes in MZT and we have had flights there in the past; I'm sure service in the market would do ok, maybe less than daily on a 737 would be best for starters.

But there are smaller places in Baja and the mainland that I'm sure would be doable with Q400s, just like from LAX, such as LTO and LAP, and others like HMO...

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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:29 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 121):
Hey red', I wouldn't exactly call MZT a little fishing village, but a potential destination from SAN, definitely! I know there used to be a lot of San Diegans than owned confos/homes in MZT and we have had flights there in the past; I'm sure service in the market would do ok, maybe less than daily on a 737 would be best for starters.

I remember AeroCalifornia flew SAN-MZT in the early 1990s with their ancient DC-9s


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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:52 am

One thing AS should do with respect to their SAN - Hawaii ops. They need to time their SAN-OGG flights to better connect with MRY and FAT.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:39 am

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 122):
I remember AeroCalifornia flew SAN-MZT in the early 1990s with their ancient DC-9s

Hey L, absolutely. I'd forgotten that MZT was one of their routes from Lindbergh. I'm also about 96% sure that AM flew it at one time, during their very on-and-off, stop-and-go tenure in San Diego; I don't have the details available. And most recently, F9 announced the route in fall of 2007 but failed to even start it!

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 123):
One thing AS should do with respect to their SAN - Hawaii ops. They need to time their SAN-OGG flights to better connect with MRY and FAT.

Certainly if SAN is to become any kind of serious connecting point (dare I say, "hub"?) I would expect both Hawaii flights to be re-scheduled earlier. (HNL will arrive at almost midnight this summer!) And I still remain convinced that we will have more service to the Islands before Christmas so hopefully that service will be "connectable" also.

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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:58 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 124):
I'm also about 96% sure that AM flew it at one time,

AM probably flew it right after AeroCalifornia pulled out.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 124):
And most recently, F9 announced the route in fall of 2007 but failed to even start it!

Didn't F9 also try a SAN-CUN route around that time? But If I can recall, SAN-CUN didn't do so well.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:11 am

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 125):
Didn't F9 also try a SAN-CUN route around that time? But If I can recall, SAN-CUN didn't do so well

Yes, but they actually op'd the CUN-route (Saturday-only from Dec 2006 thru summer of 2007.) I don't think CUN had a chance (from SAN) and MZT needed more than 1x weekly service to be successful... Then F9 kind of gave up on California-Mexico.

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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:28 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 120):
Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 111):I wonder if AS would even consider SAN-TUS with Q400's.
I don't know about AS but I sure have! Actually, my thought has been something like SAN-YUM-TUS, or even SAN-IPL-TUS, or how about the old Bonanza route of SAN-IPL-YUM-TUS (subbing TUS for PHX.) I've thought of this scenario for years now, just waiting and hoping for QX to start some sort of op's here at Lindbergh.

Didn't AS/QX take a stab at AZ flights from LAX on Dash 8's, and didn't that not work so well for them? Granted it was from LAX and not SAN, but really wouldn't that be an even smaller market to try this from? I think it was FLG. I'm by no means an expert, but seems they would be doing more interesting flying from SAN, if they are really committed to this experiment.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:37 pm

Yes...QX tried 2X daily LAX-PRC-FLG. But SAN-TUS is a proven run that goes back decades. We are talking about two communities of similar size.
 
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:41 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 127):
Didn't AS/QX take a stab at AZ flights from LAX on Dash 8's

It was a triangle routing to Prescott and FLG.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:53 pm

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 128):
Yes...QX tried 2X daily LAX-PRC-FLG. But SAN-TUS is a proven run that goes back decades. We are talking about two communities of similar size.

I agree, SAN-TUS may very well work, AS has a facility in TUS, I was more referencing the IPL & YUM stops that were being discussed, does no other carrier fly SAN-TUS? if not, I think AS should toss a few Q400's in there and see what happens. But as Q400's are getting stretched thin, either OO needs to take over a few more routes currently operated by Q400's or AS needs to acquire a couple more frames before starting too much else. Does AS have any unfulfilled orders for Q400's?
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:07 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 130):
AS have any unfulfilled orders for Q400's?

In the conference call the other day, it was mentioned that they have 2 options for Q400s (+ 2 for some model 737) that they can still excercise... I certainly hope they do 'cause I could sure come up with some routes to use them on...  

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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:12 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 131):
In the conference call the other day, it was mentioned that they have 2 options for Q400s (+ 2 for some model 737) that they can still excercise... I certainly hope they do 'cause I could sure come up with some routes to use them on...

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I bet you can, it must be exciting for you Bob, to see SAN going AS like this. I hope they do take the options on the Q400's I think they will need them sooner than later with the "SAN experiment"
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:30 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 130):
But as Q400's are getting stretched thin

They aren't as thin as often suggested. There is a fair amount of slack at PDX sometimes (summer, not so much). But as I recall based on an analysis I did before the SAN service, the PDX schedule had 2.5 free Q400s and the SEA schedule had 1 free Q (if the schedule was tightened up). The SAN service basically took 1.5 of the free Q400s. (The FAT-SAN service took the equivalent of 1 while the MRY-SAN service accounted for .5 theoretically). By my calculations that leaves two free Q400s which I'm assuming could theoretically function as spares but currently are flying routes. Also though, there have been some cuts in the QX system (LWS lost a frequency, RDD and ACV are gone) so there may be a tad more slack than I let on. (As I did this analysis a little while ago before their most recent Q400 delivery)

Hopefully they will take the two options and open up some more routes with them.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:19 pm

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 133):
They aren't as thin as often suggested


Interesting. Thanks for that info Alas'. While just doing my SAN-QX 6/04 turn sked, I noticed some healthy ground time in PDX (between flts 2468 and 2553) although that turn might very well integrate with other Q400 service there.

No question that they had lots of available a/c time in the schedules and managed all this new June-stuff by simply tightening the belt. Wonderful use of resources but I do hope they will pick up some more frames and keep the growth happening!

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 132):
it must be exciting for you Bob, to see SAN going AS like this. I hope they do take the options on the Q400's I think they will need them sooner than later with the "SAN experiment"


Yes, but I certainly realize there are lots of other potential growth opportunities in the AAG system. I'd love to see everything poured into SAN but I know that will not be the case. Heck, we're still an "experiment", a test case at this point. We've got to prove, by filling unknown/brand new flights like SAN-STS, that SAN will support AS and QX service and make the carrier a surrogate "home town airline" for our community! And I think we can and will.

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 130):
SAN-TUS may very well work, AS has a facility in TUS, I was more referencing the IPL & YUM stops that were being discussed, does no other carrier fly SAN-TUS? if not, I think AS should toss a few Q400's in there and see what happens


I'm glad you agree, '380. WN flies SAN-TUS 3-4 times a day (seasonally variations) and does well in the market. (A lot of 'zonies like to visit San Diego in the summer for some reason. ) But I like the thought of SAN-YUM-TUS. There are certainly Navy connections between SAN and YUM and the drives into YUM from either TUS or SAN, especially in the summer, are not a real joy even with a/c!

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Those Bonanza milk-runs started at LAX, stopped in SNA, SAN, IPL, YUM and ended in PHX and I don't believe that starboard engine stopped running until the plane was in LA or PHX! Ah, the good ol' days!

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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:32 pm

As far as IPL is concerned, I remember (not too long ago), when SkyWest (UAX) had an LAX-SAN-IPL flight.
I'm not sure if they even fly to IPL anymore, but it would be interesting to have desert hops from SAN such
as everyone mentioned SAN-IPL-YUM.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 134):
WARNING! Nostalgia time: (old man reminiscing)
I remember when I was a kid visiting Lindbergh Field in the early 60s and seeing those great Bonanza F-27s come barrelling into gate 4, killing only the port turboprop while the starboard one kept spinning, while pax de-planed and ran for the chainlink fence, and quickly inside the terminal building. Meanwhile, the departing pax waited at the fence to run out on the tarmac and climb the short steps (aka the back of the door!) and ran for their seats inside. That's because ground time at the "big" station of SAN was, I think, about 12 minutes max. (The smaller cities enroute saw maybe 8 minutes or less ground time.) If I was stupid enough to stand there to watch the plane head for runway 27, I'd get a face full of prop-wash and dirt as the Fairchild turned and headed out...

Wow!! That's really going back! (stone age?  ), just kidding! 'B"! Growing up here myself in the 70's I remember
T-1 being the only terminal there! and just about everything went through LAX! PSA owned SAN at the time!
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:44 pm

Yup, PSA was HQ'd in SAN, I forgot that. As AS is as close as I'll get to a hometown airline here in PDX, I'm always worried when I see AS ramping up another station, and wonder when PDX will see more increases as to destinations and frequencies. IE.... PDX-LIH would be perfect. I don't think AS will pass up any good opportunity from here.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:54 pm

Quoting ASFlyer (Thread starter):
To support the new Santa Rosa-San Diego route, Alaska will discontinue service between Santa Rosa and Las Vegas on June 3.

Yes, this shocks me a little bit too. Maybe OO can pick it up doing at-risk.
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RE: Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air

Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:21 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 137):
Yes, this shocks me a little bit too. Maybe OO can pick it up doing at-risk.

If you read Alasizon's reply 133, he talks about slack still in the Q400 schedules. Therefore, if STS-LAS is truly profitable for AS, I would expect them to re-start it one way or the other as soon as possible. Maybe because of the timing of the new flights at SAN and SJC, they needed to free up that STS-LAS-STS a/c from its midday (~noon thru 4:30pm) turn temporarily..

Incidentally, as I was looking at random sked's on the STS-LAS route, I see that it generally doesn't seem to be flying daily now thru the end of May; I don't know what it's been doing since the service began. (Can anyone tell us what the frequency of flights on the route started out as?) In fact, for some periods (such as in March) the r/t is only flying 4 or 5 days a week. Considering that Vegas is often a low-yield market, and AS is not even flying there daily from Santa Rosa, maybe it isn't all that successful a market...

Perhaps AS is thinking and hoping that this untried market between STS and SAN will be higher yielding and a better use of their resources. (Otherwise, I can't really see AS cancelling a profitable route just to try something totally new that's never been flown before by anyone.) We are all familiar with AS quick trigger finger when it comes to routes that don't perform they way they want (need?) them to.

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