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FlyASAGuy2005
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United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:08 am

Hey all, a friend of mine just sent me a text saying there was a UA 777 parked at a Delta gate on the G in MSP. It must have arrived some time after 6pm as DL 621's ship (7006) was sitting at the same gate (G4) since 11 this morning when it arrived from NRT but subsequently cancelled due to MTC around 6pm.

I don't know if it's still at the gate but here are some shots he sent me earlier..





Any ideas?
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:12 am

Probably a weather diversion - a pretty good winter system moving through basically the entire midwest today. MKE, ORD, DTW all in the path.
 
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:14 am

Looking at flightaware, it looks like UA928 (a A320) from PDX to ORD diverted to MSP today, and that a 777 is scheduled to take them to ORD. Maybe they had a spare 777 in ORD (or somewhere else) and they just quickly sent it up to MSP to pick up the passengers?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...8/history/20120121/0116Z/KMSP/KORD
 
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:15 am

Looks like 836 diverted to MSP and then cancelled.
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:16 am

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Thread starter):
It must have arrived some time after 6pm as DL 621's ship (7006) was sitting at the same gate (G4) since 11 this morning when it arrived from NRT but subsequently cancelled due to MTC around 6pm.

Speaking of DL621, this flight is nearly always late and frequently canceled. What in the world is with this flight? Ever since it became a 777 it can't seem to depart on time.

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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:18 am

Quoting poLOT (Reply 2):
Looking at flightaware, it looks like UA928 (a A320) from PDX to ORD diverted to MSP today, and that a 777 is scheduled to take them to ORD. Maybe they had a spare 777 in ORD (or somewhere else) and they just quickly sent it up to MSP to pick up the passengers?

So you solved half the mystery and I solved half the mystery. The airplane is, in fact, heading to ORD tonight - just with the PDX-ORD flight number rather than the PEK-ORD flight number.
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:18 am

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 1):
Quoting poLOT (Reply 2):

He was trying to say it might have been a charter but that didn't make sesne to me because they would have parked over at Signature for a charter and not a DL gate on the concourse so I figured it had to be a diversion of some sort. Whether, WX, MTC, or medical..
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:45 am

ORD was a mess today. This morning there were averaging 261 minute delays (according to www.fly.faa.gov/ois). During the afternoon, the delays improved to "only" 90 minutes.
 
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:45 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):

So you solved half the mystery and I solved half the mystery. The airplane is, in fact, heading to ORD tonight - just with the PDX-ORD flight number rather than the PEK-ORD flight number.

I don't think PEK - ORD diverted, but PVG - ORD did.
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:17 am

Yes, it's N797UA, the PVG-ORD flight. The aircraft was due to operate UA843 ORD-GRU today but that flight's been delayed 'til tomorrow at 1800. Why do I know this? 'cause I'm supposed to be on it!
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:33 pm

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...A/history/20120120/0900Z/ZSPD/KORD

Looks like they got most of the way to ORD before turning around and heading to MSP. CLE is about the same distance from ORD as MSP and would have had more UA/CO options for getting pax on their way sooner. But CLE has no scheduled international service (besides Canada which is pre-cleared) so customs probably wouldn't have been able to handle a 777.
 
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:51 pm

it is common for PMUA international flights to divert to MSP. It is the best option if they 'think' the flight will cancel vs going to a place like MKE where they may not be able to deal with that large of a plane. We all know MSP can.
It is the closest 'international friendly' airport to ORD and PMUA has a decent number of flights to ORD per day, last checked almost 10 and add that to the DL and AA capacity to ORD you can get passengers at least to ORD or onward with DL. It would be 'relatively' easy to get a crew up to MSP from ORD within a few hours to ferry the plane or plane with passengers down to ORD when operations are closer to returning to normal.

at this point I have not seen PMUA make a diversion to a PMCO hub to make it 'easier', but I am sure others can correct me. The hubs are not all that close. We are not talking about DL with DET and CVG. I bet the 777 could make it to MSP but would not have made it to CLE. I also bet that since the storm that was hitting ORD was heading east to CLE they would be sending passengers just out in-front of the storm.
As a passenger I would have rather had gone to MSP and get on a DL flight to whereever I was going rather than trying to 'beat' the storm via CLE.
 
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:08 pm

Quoting bayareapilot (Reply 10):
Looks like they got most of the way to ORD before turning around and heading to MSP. CLE is about the same distance from ORD as MSP and would have had more UA/CO options for getting pax on their way sooner. But CLE has no scheduled international service (besides Canada which is pre-cleared) so customs probably wouldn't have been able to handle a 777.

That and is their any wide body equipment in CLE? You can see from the picture that Delta was unloading the aircraft.
 
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:29 pm

Just got towed to E concourse this morning, preping for depature. Easy on the eyes on a cold MN morning!
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:55 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 8):
I don't think PEK - ORD diverted, but PVG - ORD did.

Correct - right flight number, wrong Chinese airport. 836 is PVG-ORD-BOS.
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:24 pm

Anyone get any more pictures?

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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:13 pm

Quoting bayareapilot (Reply 10):

Looks like they got most of the way to ORD before turning around and heading to MSP. CLE is about the same distance from ORD as MSP and would have had more UA/CO options for getting pax on their way sooner. But CLE has no scheduled international service (besides Canada which is pre-cleared) so customs probably wouldn't have been able to handle a 777.

For the most part, the international flights on UA carry MSP as a diversion from the west and DTW from the east. That is not always true, but it usually is. Those airports can handle an overnight diversion.

Domestic flights will carry closer diversion airports such as MKE and RFD since problems like the crew timing out and immigration are not a problem on domestic flights.
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:55 pm

Diverted do to inop deice on A/C.
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:20 pm

Quoting SMPPLNOHoW2FLY (Reply 13):

Where would they park a tripple 7 on E? The UA gates are near the "green" side or Delta's D concourse and boxed in between US and AA. Conti's gates are on the other side on E near the "red" or Delta's F gates and boxed in by the terminal mall to the right and F9 to the left.
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:58 pm

It departed from E-10.
 
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:28 am

Okay I can see that. E8 us usually used by Jazz and 12 is AA but the jetway is set pretty far out from the actual terminal building.
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:41 pm

It was at G5 my supervisor as I am a fueler at msp said it was some kind of mechanical issue I am not sure it could fit on E10 since the only gates that are marked for that big of AC is G4 and G5 but i could be wrong
 
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RE: United 777 In MSP (01/20/12) Reason?

Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:17 pm

Quoting brdcessna (Reply 21):

It came into G4. Well G4 and G5 jetways run from the same boarding door because it's actually a dual jetway for the 744. Narita (777) always arrives and departs from G4 as well as one of the AMS flight. The other Amsterdam uses G6 and the late evening Paris uses G3. As a matter of fact if you look at the first pic posted, you can see a 763 under the T7 in the background; that should be CDG. LHR gets in around 5 and sits on G6 till its departure after 9.

And according to

Quoting SMPPLNOHoW2FLY (Reply 13):

It did in fact depart from E10 confirmed by

Quoting ramprat74 (Reply 19):

This actually makes sense because DL would have needed the gate for the LAX departure at 9am which is a 76Q.
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