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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:01 am

Fantastic order! I assume all aircraft will come with freee Wifi.

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 37):
1. the size of the order.
2. that Norwegian has split up the order.

I remember I told a FA that the only thing wrong with Norwegian is that they don't fly Airbus.
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Awesome order for Boeing, but I have to say that I feel the win is bigger for Airbus.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:05 am

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 39):
I'm really surprised they ordered the NEO - from what I can see on Air Fleets they have never operated an Airbus before. Makes me wonder if this is a similar situation to AA where no single manufacturer had the slots or capacity to produce the jets in the time frame they wanted them.

People keep saying this, but the amounts ordered by AA and DY are not impossibly large. I mean, if DY had taken only 737s and AA all A320s, wouldn't the planes be delivered about in the same time? I know there are probably a million small details that have an influence on this and I'm making things more simple than they actually are, but in general we are having several manufacturers order planes from 2 manufacturers stating the availability as reason..

I'd imagine the purchase price of a plane in 200 plane order would be lower than in a 100 plane order.
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:13 am

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 48):
I think this order is way to big. I think that if they are planning to use this on their own network, even in all of Scandinavia, then they are delusional. If this is really the case then I would think that they will get themselves into financial trouble sooner or later.

Bubble in Norway?

You could do with reading the entire press release and some of the previous posts on here before commenting.

The order is so large because Norwegian want to replace aircraft when they are 7 years old to maintain a young fleet. This means that aircraft currently in service today will be replaced with the new aircraft, who will in turn be replaced after 7 years.

It wouldn't surprise me if the first of the aircraft delivered as part of this order will be replaced by later aircraft in the same order.

SAS have a fleet of just under 140 aircraft and only operate 3 hubs. Norwegian have 4 major hubs and a large number of focus cities so I think having a fleet of 200 odd aircraft isn't a wild overindulgence on the part of mister Kjos but a realistic outlook of the market as a whole.

Just remember the demographics in Scandinavia... Scandinavians don't generally fly business class (even businessmen) and the market for a low cost carrier that meets the needs of the business community is probably one of the reasons why SAS are in the sh*t.

Also, there is a chance SAS may not be around in 10 years time so Norwegian may also be contingency planning for a big opening in the market.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:49 am

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 52):

You could do with reading the entire press release and some of the previous posts on here before commenting.

The order is so large because Norwegian want to replace aircraft when they are 7 years old to maintain a young fleet. This means that aircraft currently in service today will be replaced with the new aircraft, who will in turn be replaced after 7 years.

I read the thread. I realise that they will use these planes to replace older ones. According to Wikipedia they now have 286 aircraft on order and a fleet of 66 aircraft. If we assume they sell all their current planes that´s still 286 planes.

When Norwegian is buying a number of aircraft similar to Ryanair (has 275 aircraft) or Easyjet (has 183 aircraft) then I would say that they are being delusional. Scandinavia has about 25 million people of which about 5 million are in Norway.

Let´s do some math. They have about 186 seats on each plane. So that´s a total capacity of 186 seats x 286 planes = 53,196 seats. Given that their flights are relatively short I would assume about 6 flights per day or a total capacity of 319,176 seats per day. That´s 116 million seats per year. Obviously all planes need downtime but that´s probably around 100 millions seats per year, perhaps a little less. Norwegian had 13 million passengers last year.

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 52):
Just remember the demographics in Scandinavia... Scandinavians don't generally fly business class (even businessmen) and the market for a low cost carrier that meets the needs of the business community is probably one of the reasons why SAS are in the sh*t.

People like Norwegian. I´m not claiming otherwise. I´m just saying that Norwegian is overly optimistic about the fleet they need.

Anyway congrats to Norwegian. Hopefully they will be successful. But I have some doubts about this.

[Edited 2012-01-25 03:52:54]
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:11 pm

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 48):
This might however be smart. Owning way to many slots with the intent of selling them when the wait for new B737-8´s and A320NEO has become unbearable.

Allowing one airline to book production slots with an order then sell them to another airline at a profit is something that neither manufacturer would allow (they'd be stupid to). IIRC, one of the reasons FR hasn't placed a large 737 order recently is because of Boeing's refusal to agree to the resale terms that Michael O'Leary wanted.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:14 pm

Good God, do they expect Norway´s population to double in the next decade?
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:16 pm

Quoting na (Reply 55):
Good God, do they expect Norway´s population to double in the next decade?

No, and a lot of people make the wrong assumption that they only will fly to/from Norway   DY has bases in Finland, Sweden and Denmark today, and might expand further
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:23 pm

Quoting na (Reply 55):



Good God, do they expect Norway´s population to double in the next decade?
Quoting someone83 (Reply 56):


No, and a lot of people make the wrong assumption that they only will fly to/from Norway

The unfortunate consequence of having a geographically specific name.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:27 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 57):
The unfortunate consequence of having a geographically specific name.

What about Norwegian Cruise Line with HQ in Florida 

[Edited 2012-01-25 04:27:41]
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:28 pm

Quoting solnabo (Reply 41):
Why A320Neo, the same pax config (almost) as B738Max and not A319 - 321Neo´s?

Every single order to date except Republic has been for so-called "A320NEOs". I expect that most of them are generic orders and later on airlines will decide the split between the three types.

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 42):
As already mentioned by others, I doubt we will se all the aircraft in operation at once. some of them are proabably replacment aircrafts.
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 44):
Yep Bjørn Kjos has said aircraft will be replaced after 7 years so it is the start of a big rolling fleet replacement program.

Yes, but even with replacement after 7 years, that's still a huge increase in the fleet.
Not counting the NEOs, just from Boeing press release:
Norwegian currently operates a fleet of 62 airplanes: 48 Next-Generation 737-800s and 14 737-300s. Including today's announcement, Norwegian has 184 unfilled orders for Boeing airplanes including: 100 737 MAX airplanes, 78 Next-Generation 737-800s and six 787 Dreamliners from Boeing and leasing company partners.

How much net growth, we can only estimate, as we don't know delivery schedules. But if they split the order between manufacturers it suggests that they want to get a lot of a/c very quickly, similarly to AA.
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:31 pm

Quoting behramjee (Reply 24):
There is no way that an airline with Norway as a home market can even support 100 aircraft as part of its fleet

So? Ryanair's "home market" is Ireland!
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:40 pm

Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 60):
So? Ryanair's "home market" is Ireland!


Clearly Norwegian is going for another Ryanair or Easyjet model with that many airplanes. Which is by itself I guess a good move and might persuade FR & U2 to order some (more) replacements in their fleets too.  .
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:46 pm

For those of you discussing the fleet size and replacement over the years, this article (in Swedish) gives a little hint, saying that DY plans to have 179 aircraft in their fleet by 2022.

http://www.dn.se/ekonomi/norwegian-koper-222-nya-flygplan
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:55 pm

Really great news but... 737s and A320NEO? Don't know how to combine them but ok, let's give it a try  
I wonder how SAS thinks about this good news!

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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:00 pm

I wish DY all the best but I take this mega order with a grain of salt

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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:32 pm

Quoting flyingAY (Reply 51):
People keep saying this, but the amounts ordered by AA and DY are not impossibly large. I mean, if DY had taken only 737s and AA all A320s, wouldn't the planes be delivered about in the same time? I know there are probably a million small details that have an influence on this and I'm making things more simple than they actually are, but in general we are having several manufacturers order planes from 2 manufacturers stating the availability as reason..

I'd imagine the purchase price of a plane in 200 plane order would be lower than in a 100 plane order.

If it isn’t time, then it has to be money. And considering Airbus already have over 1200 firm orders for the NEO and very few slots left I very much doubt they are offering the NEO’s on the cheap. So what does that leave? – I can only think of the projected operating costs. Whatever the reason, it has to be significant for them to order an entirely new type with all the costs that entails.

I wonder how many Airbus operators are going to order the Max…

Quoting garpd (Reply 45):
Interesting that the NEOs are only on MOU, but the 737MAX is firm.

Its a firm order for 100 Neos and 50 options.
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:38 pm

A good win for Airbus. When this deal is firmed, it will represent another previous all Boeing company signing up for the NEO.

A good start to 2012.
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:39 pm

Wow this is so pleasing to hear! DY is a brilliant airline, glad to see they are expanding to the fleet!
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:49 pm

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 67):
DY is a brilliant airline

But fairly financially iffy.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:50 pm

Maybe they bet that SAS will not be a competitor in 5 years   I know Norway wants to sell its share in SAS but Denmark fights this and Sweden will not decide before anything is certain. SAS best days are in the past and I think we should let it go, it costs a lot of taxmoney to keep the unions in cph happy.
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:53 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 68):
But fairly financially iffy.

Really? How comes they can have such a big order?
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:55 pm

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 70):
Really?

As I before stated (net result in USD and millions; dates starting from 2010 and working back to 2006):

Net result 31.26, 71.36, -1.34, 14.54, -3.45
Net margin 2.2%, 6.1%, -0.12 %, 2%, -0.74 %
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:57 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 71):

As I before stated (net result in USD and millions; dates starting from 2010 and working back to 2006):

Oh right I see.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:58 pm

Seems OSL should perhaps reconsider a few additional jetbridges before they commence with the expansion next year...
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:21 pm

Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 60):
So? Ryanair's "home market" is Ireland!

  

Everyone here only talks about Norway. They have a big operation at ARN with other hubs at CPH, HEL and GOT.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:36 pm

Next to opening bases out of Norway, they might be anticipating on a drastic SAS reduction or demise...?

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Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:04 pm

Fantastic. Norwegian is one of my favourite airlines and I fly them often. Just hope the CPH-KRK flights continue  
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:13 pm

Bring back the old airport Fornebu into operation? Is this still possible?
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:25 pm

Quoting warren747sp (Reply 77):
Bring back the old airport Fornebu into operation? Is this still possible?


747SP

No
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:37 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 47):
Exactly. They will be able to maintain a young fleet while growing a bit. I dont get it why some members calls this order off.

Because people on ANET always know more then the guys running airlines themselves. Didn't you know  
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:41 pm

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 79):

Because people on ANET always know more then the guys running airlines themselves. Didn't you know

Oh yeah, of course. How could I forget that after so many years. Airline management only makes arbitrary decisions while A.net members are the ones that should be running these airlines  
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:22 pm

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 53):
Norwegian had 13 million passengers last year.

That was 2010 eaa3, in 2011 they had 15.698 million passenger (+20.5% growth from 2010). The RPK grew even more and ended up at 21.957 billion seat kilometres in 2011 (+26.5% growth from 2010). The average segment length in 2011 was 1,110 km and the average cabin load was 79.3% (+ 2 percentage points compared with 2010). And if you add to that their punctuality was 85.3% and their regularity at 99.7% - all thrumbs and arrow are pointing upward.
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:24 pm

The Boeing MAX order is more or less just a replacement of the existing Boeing NG fleet. Growth will come from the new Airbus fleet, but unless they will get more than 1 aircraft per month over a 7 year period, the oldest NEOs will have left the fleet already when the last NEOs from the order arrive. So while the order may look spectacular on paper, in terms of real fleet size at any given time it is ambitious, but not exactly outlandish.

I also fail to understand the notion that Norwegian is sort of limited in its growth potential to the Nordic states. They can easily operate the NEOs under a different, but affiliated brand that gives the airline a more pan-european touch (although Ryanair demonstrates that you can call an airline whatever you want if only your marketing and pricing works nicely)
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:30 pm

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 81):
That was 2010 eaa3, in 2011 they had 15.698 million passenger (+20.5% growth from 2010). The RPK grew even more and ended up at 21.957 billion seat kilometres in 2011 (+26.5% growth from 2010). The average segment length in 2011 was 1,110 km and the average cabin load was 79.3% (+ 2 percentage points compared with 2010). And if you add to that their punctuality was 85.3% and their regularity at 99.7% - all thrumbs and arrow are pointing upward.

Norwegian has been very successful. Hopefully they can displace SAS as the national airline of Norway. My point isn´t that Norwegian isn´t a good business. I´m just saying that they might be overextending themselves.
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:39 pm

Quoting warren747sp (Reply 77):
Bring back the old airport Fornebu into operation? Is this still possible?

No. They've already torn up the runways and started building a new mixed use development (Telenor, Statoil and Aker HQs). Although the control tower, terminal and some hangars are still available and of course the seaplane base.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:50 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 3):

Good for them, but I really don't understand why an airline - particularly a low cost airline - would need both the 737max and A320neo. Sure, both great aircraft, but both do the same job, have the same range and (pretty much) the same capacity; what's the upside?

I feel that most big orders will be split this way. It has been shown here that the 737-8MAX is more efficient than the A320NEO, but the A319NEO and A321NEO are more efficient than the 737-7MAX and 737-9MAX respectively.

A319NEO, 737-8MAX, A321NEO seems like a good combination. This is what American Airlines (the other big split airline) has chosen.
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:38 pm

Great order!!!! This airline will be a great gauge to tell us which one is really better...   We'll see once they get both delivered, which is the one they prefer.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:12 pm

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 86):
Great order!!!! This airline will be a great gauge to tell us which one is really better... We'll see once they get both delivered, which is the one they prefer.

I highly doubt we will ever see much details on that matter. Even if we do, it would probably be airline-specific.

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 82):
I also fail to understand the notion that Norwegian is sort of limited in its growth potential to the Nordic states. They can easily operate the NEOs under a different, but affiliated brand that gives the airline a more pan-european touch (although Ryanair demonstrates that you can call an airline whatever you want if only your marketing and pricing works nicely)

I agree with you, but there is a difference between those two brand names. Ryanair is neutral, could be operating anywhere, while Norwegian clearly sounds like, well, a Norwegian airline.
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:51 pm

Newsreports says that Norwegian will be needing up to 5000 new employes ...

[Edited 2012-01-25 10:55:36]
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:57 pm

Quoting kaitak744 (Reply 85):
It has been shown here that the 737-8MAX is more efficient than the A320NEO,

Only on shorter routes - and even that remains to be proven. For routes over 500 miles, the A320NEO wins "on paper".

Quoting kaitak744 (Reply 85):
A319NEO, 737-8MAX, A321NEO seems like a good combination. This is what American Airlines (the other big split airline) has chosen.

That's incorrect.

American selected A319 and A321, they did not specify which NEO models they will take. Same with MAX.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:00 pm

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 15):
Norway has one of the largest aviation markets in Europe (47 mill pax 2012). Almost twice of Denmark and far larger than Sweden.

The international traffic out of Sweden and Denmark is larger. But nevermind... you are happy and thats fine. I think Norwegian is making a go at taking out SAS completely now. That means large expansion in for instance Sweden.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:26 pm

Quoting cuban8 (Reply 32):
Probably, how do we convince the Scandinavian governments to loan us some more money...


But wait, isn't everyone in Europe thinking that these days???

Congrats to Norwegian, now let's see how they use them....
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:41 pm

Well nice to have so many planes but it doesn't help to be sold by travel agents if they don't get in the billing and settlement plan from IATA for other countries than scandinavia.

At the moment they serve cities all over Europe, agent all over europe can holds seats through the GDS, but only scandinavan agents can issue the tickets. Makes no sense. For years now they have been announcing to add other countries.
They could even use quite simple solutions, i.e. making issuance possible on Hahn Air stock, i.e. like Hawaiian or Air Europa here in Germany...
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:44 pm

Who uses travel agents these days? Haven't used one the last 15 years!
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:47 pm

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 89):
American selected A319 and A321, they did not specify which NEO models they will take.

Yes they did! Before Airbus removed it, the order was booked as 130 x A321neo.
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:54 pm

Am I the only one who finds these numbers borderline crazy? This $127 billion would represent over 40% of Norway's annual GDP.
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:57 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 93):
Who uses travel agents these days? Haven't used one the last 15 years!


Business travellers. Never use one private, but all my business travel i booked through one (Berg-Hansen) which is mandatory in my company. Although a usually book through their web solutions
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:00 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 93):
Who uses travel agents these days? Haven't used one the last 15 years!

Okay, I should have explained it differently: Agents using a GDS can't issue flight tickets on DY unless they're from Scandinavia.
This includes obviously "classic" stationary travel agencies, but also online agencies, like Expedia, Orbitz etc. Some can book Norwegian, but they would not actually issue tickets, however they would book directly in the airline's own system (i.e. like if you would book Easyjet through Expedia). This also includes business travel agencies, which sometimes will not be able to sell low cost airlines because of that (ever tried to book Norwegian through a US business travel agency?).

I do understand a lot of people, especially in the US i.e., may not go to travel agencies, but there are other countries where this is completely different. i.e. in germany we have travel agencies all over the place. They might have new competition because of online agencies, but still a lot of people feel safer to book there, believe me.

Furthermore, this affects also other things: i.e. tour operators working with GDSs will not be able to issue them as well. Take this example: A cruise line works with Amadeus, is located in the US, UK, Germany or Spain, they have an embarktion port in CPH. Norwegian would be a great airline to work with offering convenient schedules to bring people all over Europe to the ship. However they will get no business as the cruise line will not be able to issue tickets. SAS would get the business...

Sorry, this is a little off topic, I was just wondering why Norwegian doesn't makes this move, i don't see them as a classic low cost carrier, since they even offer connecting flights, and they're actually loading availabilty in Amadeus, it's just that outside of Scandinavia nobody can issue tickets for these flights...
 
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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:02 pm

Quoting 707lvr (Reply 95):
Am I the only one who finds these numbers borderline crazy? This $127 billion would represent over 40% of Norway's annual GDP

It's 127 billion NOK not USD

The purchase is backed up by Export-Import Bank of the United States (Ex-Im) and European Export Credit Agencies and the aircraftfactories themselves. You also have to understand that the 127 billion NOK is listprice. Norwegian has no doubt gotten very good deals from both Boeing and Airbus. Perhaps as much as 40 / 50 % off.


Anyway, in an interview today, the CEO mr. Kjos mentioned that the airline will have between 175 and 200 aircraft in 2022



Here is the NEO:



and the 737 Max



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RE: Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:11 pm

Quoting na (Reply 55):
Good God, do they expect Norway´s population to double in the next decade?

What does this have to do with Norway? Ryanair is based in Ireland which has a smaller population than Norway. Europe is a single market and carriers can establish bases everywhere. You have to consider Europe like North America now, not look at each country individually.

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