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Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:56 pm

This past Monday, I had the opportunity to fly aboard the 787 Dream Tour plane from Boston to Newark. I've posted a report of the experience here: http://www.nycaviation.com/2012/03/f...igh-with-the-boeing-787-dream-tour

Bottom line: It was pretty awesome, as you might expect.

The Dream Tour plane (ZA003/N787BX) has a few quirks that won't be found in production models. Please let me know if I left any questions unanswered in my story.

 
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Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:17 am

I can't believe nobody has replied to this! Awesome pictures, I'm really jealous! I really didn't realize how MASSIVE the windows are! How did you find the dimming feature of the widows?
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:41 am

That was a very well-written account, and well-photographed, too!
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:55 am

Nice report, amazing aircraft!

Congrats to Boeing.
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:20 am

Thanks for the kind words, guys!

Quoting ual777newpaint (Reply 1):
How did you find the dimming feature of the widows?

It's really neat. There are eight brightness settings, which lets you set sort of a middle ground, say if the sun is very bright but you still want to see out. The negative is it's not instant the way conventional shades are...it takes about a minute to go from completely clear to completely dark, and vice-versa.
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:38 am

cool thanks.

I was thinking i could make the LGB stop but i have too much work stuff would have loved to have seen the 787 there

I really hope someone is in Salt Lake City to see the end of the tour on here. They are gonna be spending 3 days in SLC including a Saturday so i bet there will be more than a few people stopping by. I know boeing has some employees in the SLC area but this also seems like a good PR time to get alot of Delta employees and fans on the plane to see how nice it is. Any Publicity cant hurt when you are delivering 18 of these planes to the airline and hoping for more orders. SLC seems like a very likely destination for SLC-CDG and SLC-NRT service. Last i heard Delta still wants SLC-NRT to work and come back when the economy does and the 787 is probably the perfect plane to make that happen. Smaller than the 330 and no load restrictions taking off out of SLC for NRT, and CDG would be able to fly straight thru even on the worst summer days that the 767 has had some rare issues.
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:37 am

Does the person sitting at the window have sole control over the window-darkening feature?
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:53 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 6):
Does the person sitting at the window have sole control over the window-darkening feature?

No.

The flight attendants can override any individual window (or bank of windows) or restrict the tint range of any individual window (or bank of windows).

Tom.
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:10 pm

interesting how they have the a330/340 window size cutout on the window, yet, no 777 or 767 comparison. personally, I dont see what the hype is about the windows. I dont spend that nuch time looking out of them al FL370. As an aviation enthusiast, I love the plane for its techlology interior design, not crazy about the nose and tail sections. Great aircraft nontheless.

Lucky you for being able to fly on that bird.
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:36 pm

Great report and pictures! This Randy Neville must be one of the luckiest men in the world  
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:02 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 6):
Does the person sitting at the window have sole control over the window-darkening feature?

They do, just like a regular shade. There is controller beneath each window with two buttons, one to make it brighter and one to make it darker. On the left side of the controller is a column of green LEDs which let you know which brightness setting you've selected, important since the change in the window itself does not take effect instantly. As tdscanuck notes, the crew also has central control of the dimmers. During this lighting demo, for example, they darkened all of the shades: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvny6zAyITw

Quoting TJCAB (Reply 8):

interesting how they have the a330/340 window size cutout on the window, yet, no 777 or 767 comparison. personally, I dont see what the hype is about the windows.

You're right. What does make a difference, I think, is the great amount of natural sunlight that comes in, versus the artificial light from the overheads. I suspect this would be more of an issue on longer flights.
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:13 pm

Seeing the horizon helps with air sickness. So if you suffer from motion sickness the larger windows would mean even if you are in the middle of a the centre row, you should feel better. It also helps calm nervousness and uncertainty. So nervous fliers should feel more secure. The measure is the general traveler and making them feel better flying the aircraft. To those who don't care what is going on outside, the windows don't make a distance. Others like myself who like to look out and see waypoints, weather etc. it will make a big difference if we can't get our window seats.
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:41 pm

Quoting pnwtraveler (Reply 11):
Seeing the horizon helps with air sickness. So if you suffer from motion sickness the larger windows would mean even if you are in the middle of a the centre row, you should feel better. It also helps calm nervousness and uncertainty. So nervous fliers should feel more secure. The measure is the general traveler and making them feel better flying the aircraft. To those who don't care what is going on outside, the windows don't make a distance. Others like myself who like to look out and see waypoints, weather etc. it will make a big difference if we can't get our window seats.

Yes, true, different people, different preferences. I like the window seat for a sense of privacy and to lean on while sleeping. Quite frankly, I don't see how the exta height of the window will help looking down at the ground, I suppose I have to try it first. One thing, my impression was always that people afraid of flying were scared to sit by the window.
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:03 pm

Quoting TJCAB (Reply 12):
Quite frankly, I don't see how the exta height of the window will help looking down at the ground, I suppose I have to try it first.

Though it must be pretty awesome when it banks sharply to your side. . .
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:10 pm

I work at Boeing and have been on several 787's.

The height of the windows actually does make a very big difference. The window's height makes them extend above the seats. This is a very cool feature because when you walk in the aisle, you can see out all the windows. You get a panaromic view of the horizon.

It really makes you realize that you're thousands of feet in the air. A little scary at first, but potentially breathe-taking otherwise!
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:25 pm

I've seen some take-off videos of the Dreamliner, and I think about the high-pitch noise beside the engine sound. Is it hydraulics systems? I'm not sure if it would be annoying for me, the engines seems very quiet though.

Anyway, it's an amazing aircraft and I can't wait to fly on one of them. The larger windows is one of the top features for me.
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:21 pm

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 13):
Though it must be pretty awesome when it banks sharply to your side. . .

Indeed
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:09 pm

Quoting konradh767 (Reply 14):
The window's height makes them extend above the seats. This is a very cool feature because when you walk in the aisle, you can see out all the windows. You get a panaromic view of the horizon.

You can really see it in this picture:
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Boein...d=24c27a0a32084cded1d7fba1b7087c47

As compared to an A340:
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Lufth...d=064c1033c0c37fcd9107058e064f9514

Or a 777:
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Omni-...d=833c384176357256bae94bee2be1e6d9
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:45 am

That was a great video and series of photos.

You're lucky to have been able to ride on the 787, even if it was a short BOS-EWR sector.

Thanks for posting!
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:16 am

I like that the 787 visited EWR, I wish it was visiting on a Saturday so I could have done a drive by and get a quick glance. I hope I get a chance sometimes in the next few years to be on one (along with the A380). I also like that it visited an airport that may seen then soon with several airlines especially for Europe and even Asia from it. Sounds like it is a very special aircraft and one with a bright future and appreciate the report in the link.
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:30 am

The 787 made a stop in Phoenix (03/09/12) today for Honeywell employees to see some of their work.


Story from AZCentral.com: http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...reamliner-makes-visit-phoenix.html

Photos: http://www.azcentral.com/photo/Misc/Business/21840

[Edited 2012-03-09 19:49:54]
 
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:52 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 18):
You're lucky to have been able to ride on the 787, even if it was a short BOS-EWR sector.
Quoting gothamspotter (Thread starter):
Bottom line: It was pretty awesome, as you might expect.

I bet you wouldn't have "had kittens" if there was an GDP and or ATC delays. Have to get on my computer to see the pics and read your article I bet they are excellent!
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RE: Onboard The 787 Dream Tour BOS-EWR

Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:18 pm

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 21):
I bet you wouldn't have "had kittens" if there was an GDP and or ATC delays.

Got lucky, it was a beautiful day.

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