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Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:46 pm

Just read on a new schedules web site that Flybe are to start LHR services on 20th April using a Dash 8, although it doesn't say where from. Is this true and any more details? Maybe something to do with Brussels Airlines?
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:51 pm

EDI and ABZ services maybe, using the slots BA has to dispose off following the BD takeover?
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:53 pm

Do you have a source?
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:56 pm

Link???

Would BE be able to cover the costs of a LHR op?
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:07 pm

Nothing on BE website or any other usual sources and they've not been mentioned through the jungle drums, not to say that it isn't going to happen but"..........

Most of their Scottish routes are from LGW and the SN flights are BRU based to MAN/ HAJ and one other place. I heard that they would replace BMI operated for SN out of BRS and NCL but nothing ex LHR.

Bit mad really operating a Dash into LHR on a domestic route. BA will be looking rather wryly at its 15% ROI in BE!!!!!
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:14 pm

Interesting move for Flybe if this is true! I think them moving to LCY would be good; give BA CityFlyer some competition on it's routes out of London.

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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:23 pm

It cannot be EDI or ABZ given the time frame, as they have neither applied for anything nor have the correct aircraft on the DHC8. If anything, it may be an off peak service for Sabena II, er I mean Brussels Airlines, who have just upgauged from the Avro to the A330 series.
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:46 pm

It was on plane-mad.com movement page
http://www.plane-mad.com/movements/london-heathrow-airport/


Don't think it can be for the ex BA routes as the agreement seems to exclude any BA/IAG associated company from operating them

[Edited 2012-04-04 14:25:11]
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:35 pm

Must be SN related?


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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:43 pm

Curiouser and curiouser!!!

Thanks for the link, it says "a daily flight" - on a dash 8 into a slot restricted airport, 15 days to go before launch?

NQY?

Finnish Airport?

Replacing one of the daily SN flights?

NOC?

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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:12 pm

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 8):
Don't think it can be for the ex BA routes as the agreement seems to exclude any BA/IAG associated company from operating them

Of course I meant to say 'the ex BMA routes'....
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:48 pm

I would take that info from plane-mad with a pinch of salt, they have had problems in the recent past with unknown users editing the movements page
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:03 am

Quoting GCPET (Reply 5):
Interesting move for Flybe if this is true! I think them moving to LCY would be good; give BA CityFlyer some competition on it's routes out of London.

I think they could do very well on domestic routes. Also French regional routes which Cityjet currently dominate. I think we might hear stuff on this soon.
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:08 am

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 8):
Must be SN related?

I presume so - it was announced they were going to do some flying for them.
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:15 pm

Flybe are not an LCY airline, wrong business model. They ploughed years of effort and lost a lot of money operating out of there as Jersey European, but head to head with BA, they'd lose the business traffic. If more domestic was viable then BA would all over it.
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:56 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 14):
Flybe are not an LCY airline, wrong business model. They ploughed years of effort and lost a lot of money operating out of there as Jersey European, but head to head with BA, they'd lose the business traffic. If more domestic was viable then BA would all over it.

Also remember BA is a shareholder in Flybe and operates codeshares with them.

I think this is part of the SN agreement and that the aircraft being used most likely will be those in SN colours. Nothing to extraordinary there then.
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:35 pm

Flybe is NOT going to be operating to LHR, neither under their own brand nor Brussels Airlines.

Planemad is an awful source.
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:19 pm

Maybe they are going to start JFK.


  
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:09 pm

Quoting Reply 9):
Curiouser and curiouser!!!

Thanks for the link, it says "a daily flight" - on a dash 8 into a slot restricted airport, 15 days to go before launch?

Could it be another another route into LGW as isnt that slot restricted at certain times of day?
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Thread starter):
Just read on a new schedules web site that Flybe are to start LHR services on 20th April using a Dash 8, although it doesn't say where from. Is this true and any more details?

The completion date for the IAG takeover of BD is the 20th April. Coincidence?

It could be that BE will take the slots made available by IAG for LHR to ABZ and EDI and will operate the flights under there brand to feed * Alliance at LHR.
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:42 pm

Further information received suggests that this is indeed connected to the Brussels Airlines contract, although the starting date is in question.

[Edited 2012-04-13 12:44:18]
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:47 pm

If they're going to fly a Dash 8 out of Heathrow, won't that slow down things and they'll have to be a large gap between the Q400 and the next aircraft departing? Or would they end up flying a modified SID to speed things up?

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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:06 pm

Nope, KLM Fokker 50s and Air France ATRs were common recently, no one is going anywhere fast working Heathrow ATC on the way in and there are speed restrictions initially on the way out.
 
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RE: Flybe To LHR?

Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:42 pm

Quoting GCPET (Reply 21):
Or would they end up flying a modified SID to speed things up?

Heathrow ATC do not depart one aircraft after another on the same SID wherever possible. If they do London ATC will sort it out with radar vectors of the two departures.

Quoting GCPET (Reply 5):
I think them moving to LCY would be good


It would be good, competition is always good. Its not just business travelers that use City.

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