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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Thu May 03, 2012 1:18 pm

Quoting qf002 (Reply 46):

Extension of a PER service has been speculated here -- could that work? SIN seems more likely to me to work, given they would be able to pick up local traffic on the SIN-ADL segment to help support the flight...

Extension of PER, wouldn't that take away seats from the PER runs? ADL would work in my opinion via SIN. Would be interesting if they then extended to AKL, although I doubt the demand is there, just a thought anyways.

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 47):

Appears to be atleast into January - I booked a trip to Cairns on Monday and on December 28 for my BNE-CNS flight I had the option of booking onto DJ783 which is scheduled to be the Alliance F100 flight. I promptly booked myself onto that flight as it should be my first time on the type.
Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 48):

12 months initially i have heard with possibility of a extension.

Thanks guys. Interesting definitely takes away continuity on their services now. Any reason why DJ decided to offload the ops? Cheaper to do so? Did they need the a/c for other routes and expansions?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Fri May 04, 2012 1:40 am

Why not via BKK as it would open up another market for ADL .
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Fri May 04, 2012 1:59 am

Quoting mikey86 (Reply 50):
Would be interesting if they then extended to AKL, although I doubt the demand is there, just a thought anyways.

They have no more rights at this stage for trans-Tasman flights. They've used up their existing quota of 28x weekly.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Fri May 04, 2012 10:18 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 41):
So the group which were in dispute with management were the 767/330/747 crew?

...and the A380 Flight Crew, the Long Haul Pilot EBA covers A380, A330, B747 and B767.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Fri May 04, 2012 10:18 pm

More Queensland flights with Alliance F100'S operating for Qantaslink on BNE-EMD.

http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...a-releases/may-2012/5395/global/en
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sat May 05, 2012 8:57 am

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 54):

In bed with both VA and QF... interesting... (though, now I remember, this has been the case for a while). Good to see Regional QLD is getting some competition, though not sure if all routes can handle it, but time will tell
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sat May 05, 2012 10:54 am

Also VA are increasing BNE from 3 a day weekdays to 5 a day by 11 June with the ATR's .Lot's more competition again.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sat May 05, 2012 12:44 pm

The West Australian has a report that NZ will announce this week that AKL-PER will change to a 777 and be daily from October.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sat May 05, 2012 2:55 pm

^^ About time too. Should be a strong market for them.

PER really is starting to make a big impression with International services. BNE better watch out at this rate holding onto 3rd position for International pax  
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sat May 05, 2012 10:10 pm

BNE will be getting a new FIFO terminal shortly.It will be just south of the current Virgin terminal .Announcement shortly.

More ATR flights to be announced shortly .BNE passed 21 million pax last month for the 12 month period till April 2012.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sun May 06, 2012 6:12 am

BNE has een really benefiting from the QF and VA battle to gain more ground, especially in the regional space.

How long this goes on is a big question, but for the time being, it is a very interesting battle to watch.
 
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Sun May 06, 2012 10:22 am

Quoting flyjetstar (Reply 57):
The West Australian has a report that NZ will announce this week that AKL-PER will change to a 777 and be daily from October.

Good thing I'm booked to make my inaugural NZ flight on PER-AKL in July, I think the NZ 763's look absolutely incredible with the winglets. Not complaining though as the product is pretty tired.

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 58):
PER really is starting to make a big impression with International services. BNE better watch out at this rate holding onto 3rd position for International pax

Hopefully lots more to come too! I hope Lion, Batavia and Etihad eventually announce services too. Do you think there is a chance we'll see QF, JQ, VA or even NH/JL pick up PER-NRT again?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sun May 06, 2012 12:30 pm

^^ I see PER, MEL and BNE as markets ripe for NRT/HND service.

Out of those:
- PER with VA signalling possible Asian expansion, you never know. It must be up there, especially as their A330s operate through the airport currently. JQ has no A330s operating into PER which makes it harder to see them move onto the route, but may well just look to use 3K via SIN instead.
- MEL has been identified for Skymark service in the coming years
- BNE is pushing it slightly given the amount of JQ service into OOL, but it's still a option to consider.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sun May 06, 2012 8:09 pm

Does anybody know that with 738 VH-VZZ entering service last week what the next 738 will be registered. VH-Y??
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sun May 06, 2012 11:01 pm

BNE is not pushing it slightly at all.

As i keep saying the Qld Govt is pushing BNE-TYO is the number one route they need to restart.If subsidies are required then so be it.

JL and VA are the contenders.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 07, 2012 4:29 am

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 62):
I see PER, MEL and BNE as markets ripe for NRT/HND service

Why?

The leisure traffic must be 95% inbound package tourists from Japan who are headed to the Gold Coast - and who will obviously stick with the Gold Coast flights. And the business market would be pretty limited.

As for outbound demand to Japan? Slightly greater than North Korea.

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 64):
As i keep saying the Qld Govt is pushing BNE-TYO is the number one route they need to restart.If subsidies are required then so be it.

That does make a lot of sense.

Not the logic of having Tokyo the number one priority for Brisbane, but rather having a state government full of low level politicians who are incapable of obtaining or retaining national office whose vanity is offended by fact that the state's second city attracts Japanese visitors who have no desire whatsoever to see the state capital.

It reminds me of Barack Obama's comments about putting lipstick on a pig. You can build a waterfront complex in Brisbane, but it's still never going to strike foreigners as anything more than a mediocre and gridlocked riverfront city which cannot compete with the Great Barrier Reef, Sydney Harbour or even the Gold Coast.

I'd rather they spent my taxes subsidising inbound routes from China to the Gold Coast rather than ludicrous trophy routes between Japan and Brisbane.

And if they are going to get into the habit of subsidising long-haul routes, MY priority list would be:

1. LAX-CNS
2. HNL-BNE
3. SFO-BNE
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 07, 2012 6:01 am

And would the subsidy be anything more generous than the per pax rebate percentage of the departure tax?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 07, 2012 6:27 am

Quoting Boeing767-300 (Reply 63):
Does anybody know that with 738 VH-VZZ entering service last week what the next 738 will be registered. VH-Y??

According in Aus Aviation it will be VH-XZA
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 07, 2012 7:01 am

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 64):
As i keep saying the Qld Govt is pushing BNE-TYO is the number one route they need to restart.If subsidies are required then so be it.

The Vic govt has been pushing for Sth African service resumption as a top priority too, but whats that got them so far? It means zip without an airline seeing it as a viable option.

As stated, given that OOL is so close and is the major attraction in SEQ for Japanese tourists, BNE would likely be the least likely of the 3 to need service to Japan at this time. Time will tell.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 07, 2012 9:16 am

Quoting koruman (Reply 65):
You can build a waterfront complex in Brisbane, but it's still never going to strike foreigners as anything more than a mediocre and gridlocked riverfront city which cannot compete with the Great Barrier Reef, Sydney Harbour or even the Gold Coast.

I'd rather they spent my taxes subsidising inbound routes from China to the Gold Coast rather than ludicrous trophy routes between Japan and Brisbane.

I agree.

While Brisbane is a fantastic place to live - I'll go out on a limb and say the best city I've ever lived in - it does have little to offer inbound tourists. Given that the Japanese market is very inbound-oriented then I'm not sure how successful a flight to BNE would be.

And you're right: if the Qld Govt wants new services to attract more tourists then China should be priority #1. Whether that be to OOL or BNE (from PEK and PVG) won't make an awful lot of difference in the grand scheme of things, but that should be where the focus is (also China-CNS).

Quoting koruman (Reply 65):
2. HNL-BNE
3. SFO-BNE

Those routes (especially HNL) would be outbound-oriented so the Government would have no interest in subsidising them. BAC might throw in some incentives, but that would be it. After all the Government is only interested in attracting as many tourists as possible.

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 64):
As i keep saying the Qld Govt is pushing BNE-TYO is the number one route they need to restart.If subsidies are required then so be it.

Out of interest, does that offer still stand since the change of government? I ask because the LNP had indicated that they would be 'taking a knife' to government spending (or words to that effect)
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 07, 2012 11:25 am

I would really appreciate a BNE-NRT route, there must be some demand for freight and passengers.

It would be nice if ANA were to fly the route with one of their 787s.  
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Wed May 09, 2012 1:06 am

Air New Zealand will upgrade its existing AKL-PER service from 767-300s to 777-200s from 03SEP12. This results in an extra 70 seats per service and the introduction of a fully flat bed in Business Class, perfect for the red eye PER-AKL services.

[Edited 2012-05-08 18:43:34]
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 2:24 am

VIRGIN AUSTRALIA
Ski-season capacity boost for Queenstown – more Tasman and domestic flights

Source

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The new services announced today will see Queenstown benefit from 13% more seats on Melbourne-Queenstown services, 10% more seats on Sydney-Queenstown services and 3% more seats on Brisbane-Queenstown services.

The additional 6314 seats will take the total number of direct trans-Tasman flights into and out of Queenstown to 18 return trips per week for a total of 243 return flights over the season.

There is a greater spread of days that return flights are available, with Brisbane-Queenstown now operating daily where there were previously no Tuesday or Saturday services. Melbourne services now operate on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday compared to last season’s Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday services. Sydney goes to double-daily Wednesday-Saturday with one daily service the other three days.

Continues..

The domestic NZ ZQN growth will come in the form of an extra 300 seats from Wellington to Queenstown and an extra 650 seats per week from Auckland to Queenstown, all each way.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 3:00 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 71):
Air New Zealand will upgrade its existing AKL-PER service from 767-300s to 777-200s from 03SEP12. This results in an extra 70 seats per service and the introduction of a fully flat bed in Business Class, perfect for the red eye PER-AKL services.

Beats QF hands down now!! Tried to fly via NZ on QF and LAN previously to get the Skybed then their J seat.....finally NZ we have a proper lie flat!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Wed May 09, 2012 3:23 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 72):
The domestic NZ ZQN growth will come in the form of an extra 300 seats from Wellington to Queenstown and an extra 650 seats per week from Auckland to Queenstown, all each way.

Interesting. I note from the QF timetable that more than half of their Services are on Jetstar and that Brisbane is a weekly service vs VA's daily service. Looks like QF is being outmuscled in ZQN!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sun May 13, 2012 3:30 am

Qantas and Virgin Australia are currently locked in a Premium Cabin air fare war, with some huge savings to be had.

As an example, Virgin Australia is currently selling fares in Business Class one way from Brisbane to Sydney for $299 (for one pax, no need for companion). Conversely, Qantas is selling Business Class fares at $349 one way on the same route, however companion rules apply (i.e. you must buy 2 Business fares to each receive the lower fares; if purchasing just one fare, the normal rate will apply $650+).

Brisbane-Singapore on Qantas (companion fare) is just shy of $3,400 return and Virgin Australia's fare for Brisbane-Los Angeles is just shy of $5,000 return. Similar fares are also available from other ports such as Melbourne and Sydney.

Business Class sales on QF are nothing new as they have run previous sales (companion fares) in the past, however interesting to see Virgin lowering their fares much lower and removing the one pax restrictions, no doubt to sway more people to try their product over that of Qantas! Virgin has always had really good, competitive pricing for J class, however these fares are a steal  

Sale Fares





Regular Fares





[Edited 2012-05-12 20:34:37]
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Wed May 16, 2012 6:06 am

I'm ecstatic to report the BNE static Heavylift 737-400F has moved!!! Don't know if it's been towed someplace else on the airport or shock horror- it actually flew- but today it's not sitting next to Clivejet 1 & 2.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Wed May 16, 2012 6:40 am

Why are you ecstatic ETA unknown .It is actually leaving the country and should be in the Boeing hangar.SAD however wait for the drum roll a DC8-73F will soon be here operating for Heavylift Asia by Heavylift USA.Yes he has expanded good old Nick.To see a 4 Holer based here will make by DAY !
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Wed May 16, 2012 7:02 am

QF 27 in Christchurch this evening following an inflight medical emergency enroute Sydney - Santiago after fuel dump
Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Wed May 16, 2012 7:15 am

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 77):

Why are you ecstatic ETA unknown .It is actually leaving the country and should be in the Boeing hangar.SAD however wait for the drum roll a DC8-73F will soon be here operating for Heavylift Asia by Heavylift USA.Yes he has expanded good old Nick.To see a 4 Holer based here will make by DAY !

I know its early days with the DC-8 announcement, but is there an anticipated schedule in/out BNE for this classic bird as yet? Haven't seen a DC-8 as yet and now rather eager to get a photo now that one will be coming through.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Wed May 16, 2012 9:04 am

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 77):
Why are you ecstatic ETA unknown

Eagle- airplanes are supposed to fly- not be billboards!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Wed May 16, 2012 9:44 am

Correct eta unknown,i thought you were happy it was going permanently .

Bluebird 191 far too early for any schedule but the plan is SIN-BNE-POM-SIN.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Wed May 16, 2012 9:46 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 75):

Good scoop.

Personally I'm more interested in the $85/95 lead in fares, but $299 for J is very cheap. I was thinking that I've almost payed that much for Y and then saw the QF "FlexiSaver" fares at the $240-250 mark so I was right.

I'm sure that yield management would kick in, but if there was only FlexiSaver left and DJ had $299 for J then that might just be enough to get me back on to one of their planes  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Thu May 17, 2012 8:50 am

According to an article in the 17MAY12 edition of TravelDaily, Air Austral is reportedly poised to axe its recently reinstated Saint Denis - Sydney - Noumea 777 service. Other sources mention a possible cessation in October 2012.

Hardly surprising..  
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Thu May 17, 2012 10:07 am

^^ What a shock... Not!

It should have been cut long ago.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Thu May 17, 2012 10:41 am

Yes- it's confirmed on the Air Austral web site: RUN-SYD-NOU to go. RUN-BKK will remain, but operate via Chennai with a 738. All other long distance routes will be served with 4 777's- that means some will depart the fleet and obviously the one new 777 sitting at Boeing in SEA will not be delivered.
 
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Thu May 17, 2012 11:20 am

^^ Did they finally decide to start operating as a business? Taken them long enough.

Not a big loss for SYD as it's loads were anything but good.
 
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Thu May 17, 2012 1:10 pm

I thought this had already been announced and confirmed?? In Jnauary or February??

Shame though! I was really looking forward to trying out their offering someday...
 
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Thu May 17, 2012 1:17 pm

^^ They planned to cancel it but changed their mind and re-unstated it. Very odd decision, which was viewed mainly as as a political rather than business move.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Fri May 18, 2012 12:37 am

In a joint statement with Xstrata, Virgin Australia has announced it will commence Brisbane - Mount Isa services in August, ending Qantas' monopoly on the route.

Schedule is as follows:

BNE/ISA 0600/0840 DJ1267 MTWTF E90
ISA/BNE 0910/1115 DJ1268 MTWTF E90

Services will be operated by Virgin Australia's E90 aircraft.

[Edited 2012-05-17 18:16:17]
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Fri May 18, 2012 5:29 am

http://statements.cabinet.qld.gov.au...atementDisplaySingle.aspx?id=79242

Quote:

Deputy Premier, Minister for State Development, Infrastructure and Planning
The Honourable Jeff Seeney

Friday, May 18, 2012

Sunshine Coast Airport flying high

Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development, Infrastructure and Planning Jeff Seeney has welcomed the next stage of environmental assessment for the proposed Sunshine Coast Airport expansion.

The Sunshine Coast Regional Council proposes to construct a new runway and terminal, and expand the aviation business precinct at the Marcoola airport site.

The proposed new east-west runway would be 2430 metres in length — 633 metres longer than the existing airstrip — allowing for a new generation of quieter aircraft.

“I am pleased that the Queensland Coordinator-General has finalised the terms of reference for the project’s environmental impact statement,” Mr Seeney said.

“The airport has been identified as a key regional transport hub that is likely to influence major growth in the area.

“If the upgrade goes ahead, the terminal could become an attractive alternative to Brisbane Airport, and be used by resource industry companies keen to tap into the employment potential of the Sunshine Coast and hinterland.”

Member for Maroochydore Fiona Simpson MP expressed her strong support for the progress of the airport expansion and said construction of a new east-west runway and terminal was essential to the long-term growth and development of the Sunshine Coast economy.

“With estimates showing the project will generate 5,385 new jobs, this expansion would boost employment, tourism and aviation business which is good for the Sunshine Coast and good for Queensland,” Ms Simpson said.

Mr Seeney said 14 submissions were received from the public and advisory agencies on the draft terms of reference.

“The submissions have been taken into account in finalising the terms of reference, so the way is now clear for the proponent to complete its EIS studies.

“When I am satisfied that the EIS addresses the terms of reference, the document will be circulated to key stakeholders, and advertised for public comment.

“The public will have another opportunity to provide further feedback, once the EIS is released,” he said.

[ENDS] 18 May 2012

Doesn't make any sense.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Sun May 20, 2012 4:03 pm

Hi,

Looks like the rumour of QF domestic getting the first 787-8s before JQ maybe coming true:

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...-its-first-787s-back-from-jetstar/

Makes sense considering the renewed focus on domestic competition with Virgin.

Even if QF domestic took 7 of the 15 B787-8s that would be enough to replace the shoddy ZX series B763s, while doing the rumoured IPAD and seat upgrades on the remaining domestic GE B763s.

Interesting times ahead!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 21, 2012 12:41 am

Quoting vhebb (Reply 91):

hmm ... I get the impression that Sandilands is grasping at straws and trying to "create" a story.

QUOTE: "However it has become increasingly apparent in recent months that Jetstar was showing no signs of preparing itself to take the 787s by sometime in the second half of 2013, and it is also apparent that the pilot body is talking to management about something that could be important.

Which is why this post is really an exercise in connecting the dots and paying attention to a few of the stories that are in circulation"

Basically this "fact" (as he presents it) is based on JQ having not made "signs of preparing" to take on 787 flying 18 months out and a bit of galley chit-chat.


At the end of the day it is actually immaterial. So long as the ex-BA and oldest GE 767s start to be retired once the 787 rolls around it doesn't matter whether that it is with 787 or A330s
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 21, 2012 2:26 am

Qantas ceasing heavy maintenance at Tullamarine, sending most of it to Brisbane and retaining Avalon for 747 heavy maintenance: media release.

What's happening with 787 heavy maintenance? The A380 is already done overseas isn't it?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 21, 2012 3:43 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 92):
apparent in recent months that Jetstar was showing no signs of preparing itself to take the 787s by sometime in the second half of 2013

I swear I read an announcement/article with Bruce Buchanan saying JQ had started its initial preparations for 787 delivery.

I agree, I think he's trying to create a story out of nothing.

Quoting allrite (Reply 93):
What's happening with 787 heavy maintenance?

It'll probably be done in Brisbane or a mix of Avalon and Brisbane.

Quoting allrite (Reply 93):
The A380 is already done overseas isn't it?

It'd make sense for it to be done overseas and I'm pretty sure that's still the plan.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 21, 2012 4:03 am

Quoting sydscott (Reply 94):
It'd make sense for it to be done overseas and I'm pretty sure that's still the plan

Lufthansa Technic in FRA and SIA Maintenance in SIN look after the A380s.

Personally I would be surprised to see the 787s at HAECO or someplace similar.

Quoting sydscott (Reply 94):
I swear I read an announcement/article with Bruce Buchanan saying JQ had started its initial preparations for 787 delivery.

I hadn't heard that, but I wouldn't be surprised.


The article also mentions that Singapore's costs are now considered too high for the JQ Asia long haul 787 operation and that they are therefore considering Philippines. With the greatest respect to that country, I'm calling bs on this. Isn't it subjected to some sort blacklist which would prevents Filipino airlines from operating to the EU? Or does that only apply to the USA?

That said, if I'm wrong then MNL would actually be a very good choice for JQ Asia/RedQ and I wonder why nobody (myself included) has thought of it before! Other than Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand (which can be easily served over DRW and SIN), MNL is actually a good stopover for the entire East Asia/Indochina region from SGN in the south up to HKG, China and through to Korea and Japan. Further MNL-LHR (as an example, obviously this wouldn't be a JQ route) is actually shorter than SIN-LHR.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 21, 2012 4:05 am

Quoting vhebb (Reply 91):
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 92):
At the end of the day it is actually immaterial. So long as the ex-BA and oldest GE 767s start to be retired once the 787 rolls around it doesn't matter whether that it is with 787 or A330s

If QF took any 787-8's, then I'd have thought they would be for international. JQ could take 10 or so frames, returning at least 7-8 A332's to QF domestic, and QF International could take the remaining 5, which would allow them to retain existing services.

I'm not sure what the longer term implications of that plan would be, but the true benefits of the 787 for QF will not be realised domestically -- they need the plane to slash costs on long range international ops.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 21, 2012 5:31 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 95):
The article also mentions that Singapore's costs are now considered too high for the JQ Asia long haul 787 operation and that they are therefore considering Philippines. With the greatest respect to that country, I'm calling bs on this.

I very much doubt that Jetstar Asia is based in Singapore due to cost alone. It hasn't become more expensive overnight. I can see more support services for the airline (eg maintenance, the call centre is already in the Philippines) being farmed out across the region. More Jetstar services via MNL perhaps (as in the DRW-MNL-NRT)?

I don't see RedQ or whatever that morphs into running out of MNL for the time being. Not enough premium connectivity from Australia, plus from what I've heard MNL isn't a fantastic airport or a premium destination in its own right (not talking island resorts here).
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 21, 2012 6:22 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 97):
More Jetstar services via MNL perhaps (as in the DRW-MNL-NRT)?

JQ and JQ Asia already fly from MNL to both KIX and NRT although not daily. MNL is supposedly a price sensitive, lower yielding market which JQ is perfect for although with Cebu Pacific and others would be quite hard for JQ to establish a base in.

Besides which MNL just doesn't justify 787 capacity to anywhere.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 96):
JQ could take 10 or so frames, returning at least 7-8 A332's to QF domestic, and QF International could take the remaining 5, which would allow them to retain existing services.

It also depends on what they want to do domestically. If QF want to continue rolling out International equipped planes to compete with VA then handmedown A332's from JQ just isn't going to cut it.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 61

Mon May 21, 2012 6:33 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 96):
If QF took any 787-8's, then I'd have thought they would be for international.

Fully agree. Otherwise the benefit of the plane will be largely wasted. 787s are only marginally lighter per seat than A330s and using them on shorter hops means they must spend a large part of their day on the ground with their efficient engines idling or turned off.

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