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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:39 am

The moment one of these airlines uses Chuck Norris in their video I'm gonna start flying them. (Unless it's DL, which I already have skymiles for.) I think Chuck Norris will make an excellent safety vid presenter.


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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:39 am

Quoting 113312 (Reply 48):
it's RUDE. Hope they get it right this time.

It's rude to point, not to wag your finger. Wagging your finger is a light-hearted way of visually saying no. The issue was raised 3 years ago and was addressed in an internal memo with company employees.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 49):
Out of interest, why do flight attendants in North America use two fingers? I've been thinking about it and I am 99% sure that I've never seen a non-American/Canadian flight attendant not use their full hand. It doesn't bother me at all how someone indicates the general direction of an exit, your point just got me wondering...
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:04 am

Does anybody have a link to the new video?
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:07 am

One more video and Delta gets a free sandwich.  
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:44 am

I look forward to seeing it. On my wish list:

1. A clean, modern, global feel
2. No Southern (US) accents... nee howdy y'all doesn't cut it in PVG
3. Richard Anderson should NOT be on the video. "I geet to sit at his desk ever'day" is just dumb... maybe if Dick didn't sit at that darn desk everyday and got out there with the troops he'd know what was going on!
4. The pilot on the mic at the beginning. Really? Drop it.
5. Be a global, cross cultural thinker... NO finger waving
6. No cheesy moments... eg, guy with gold tooth
7. WATCH the videos of airlines outside of the US, eg, BA, LF, AF, SQ, CX, TG, QF, and learn what others do best
8. It's OK to use DL employees, but please choose attractive, fit employees. They don't have to be "young." If you're offended, get over it. While this is about safety, it's also about brand, image, and money
9. Don't go the route of animated images a la UA and VX
10. Offer 3-5 etiquette tips -- eg, don't kick the seat in front of you... don't abruptly recline your seat... don't punch the screen not the seatback IFE... etc
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:50 am

I'd just like to see an electronic device that I'd recognize. What the hey is that in he Delta video? It looks like it was obsolete in 2007.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:14 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 53):
One more video and Delta gets a free sandwich.

Or a nice set of steak-knives
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:25 am

Quoting jetjack74 (Reply 56):
Or a nice set of steak-knives

I thought they were for the livery   
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:16 am

Quoting cloudboy (Reply 40):
The safety video isn't going to get any shorter. That's all stuff that has to be in there, so you'll have to live with it (pun intended).

Well, AA does it in 3 minutes and they obey to the same laws about safety demo's so it can be done.

My pet peeve about safety videos is hand bags. By the time the safety video is shown, all bags need to be stowed already. What's the merit of showing passengers how to do something the have already done? Does the law explicitly require the bags to be mentioned during the actual safety demo because most if not all airlines in the US make around half a dozen announcements about baggage stowage during boarding. Wouldn't that suffice?

Another thing that wold be nice is that the crew stood at the exits pointing them during the safety video like most airlines in Europe do. The main reason is of course that it's easier to locate the exits. But like some one said already, people pay more attention with a live demo. This would combine the benefits of both. Additionally, at least AY and BA begin their safety videos by telling about the safety role the crew has so it highlights in the passengers mind's that those people I can see now are responsible for our safety. Just a suggestion, can live without it as well.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:46 am

Quoting 113312 (Reply 48):
You don't turn off flip phones by just flipping them closed. You don't wave fingers at people; it's RUDE. Hope they get it right this time.

  Don't be so literal - everyone already knows how to turn their own device off - it's simply in illustration. And I, like many, many others, find the finger-wag to be a refreshing bit of playfulness in an otherwise dry and boring presentation.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:35 pm

Quoting fanoftristars (Reply 13):
Strange that so many didn't like it. The DL FFs of Flyertalk are sad to see it go... On the other hand, get rid of the stupid Richard Anderson video. Not needed at all.


and get rid of the commercials that follow it.

They are MOST annoying!
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:51 pm

Quoting lucce (Reply 58):
Additionally, at least AY and BA begin their safety videos by telling about the safety role the crew has so it highlights in the passengers mind's that those people I can see now are responsible for our safety. Just a suggestion, can live without it as well.

I've heard it in the US before, but I've often notice the "the FAs are here for your safety" line rather than be taken seriously, is often caricatured by pax as an insult to service cutbacks and unfriendliness that so many US airlines have become known for in the past ten years. I wouldn't be surprised if, on domestic turns at least, that US-based airlines quit using that line.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:51 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 49):
Quoting SeatMap246 (Reply 36):
Flight attendants at United no longer point out exits with two fingers. They point them out using their whole hand
instead.

Out of interest, why do flight attendants in North America use two fingers? I've been thinking about it and I am 99% sure that I've never seen a non-American/Canadian flight attendant not use their full hand. It doesn't bother me at all how someone indicates the general direction of an exit, your point just got me wondering...

Actually, it became a cultural issue. In Asian cultures it is considered extremely rude to point with one or two fingers--either at people or their carry on baggage. The polite and correct way to do it is with the entire hand.

BTW, when DL first tested the "finger wag" in front of groups of Asian high value customers they were unnanimous that it was culturally fine. DL f/a's LOVE to parody that little part of the announcements by wagging our finger in front of our faces with a big grin.

And many of you are correct--the PA safety demos must, by FAA mandate, contain very specific information so if it gets a little long, write to the FAA at 300 Independence Ave, NW, Washingotn, DC 20001 to complain.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:11 pm

Quoting lucce (Reply 58):

What I wonder is why AU/NZ carriers do a manual demo while the video is playing.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:43 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 47):
Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 43):
AWESOME!!! MacGyver in a safety video!!!


"In case of a water landing, your life vest can be assembled from the SkyMall magazine, the airsickness bag, three used beverage cups, and a five dollar bill."

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And then they'd collect the $5 bill from you in the water as a "saving your ***" fee...ancillary revenue!
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:48 pm

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 38):
"Deltalina" is actually an EXCELLENT instructor at DL's training center in ATL, in addition to being a primo flight attendant. She bops around the building with her hair in a cute pony tail but having had to stand in front of her for my door and emergency drills, I gotta tella ya--she is TOUGH. No redo's, no nonsense--by the book and totally professional. And she is a very nice woman...But she is well liked and very respected by all 22,000 DL flight attendants because she is personable, approachable and very, very funny...We are VERY proud of her.

Oh, I'll say it, her name is Edith Kaphaloweicz. (joke) In all seriousness...she is a truly wonderful woman. LOVE her!
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:35 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 38):
And NO, I am not going to tell you her real name!

It's only in about a million articles on her in CNN, the AJC, etc...
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:33 pm

Quoting questions (Reply 54):

The term "howdy" is not even in the southern vernacular anymore. In fact, it has been gone for at least a generation. Regardless, the southern accent should be just as acceptable in Shanghai as an Australian accent. There are, afterall, as many people on this planet who speak with a native southern accent as an Australian accent.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:03 pm

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 43):
AWESOME!!! MacGyver in a safety video!!!

Excellent!

Quoting N776AU (Reply 31):
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
IMO Deltalina should record the new voice for The Plane Train at ATL when Concourse F opens.

I want the old voice than ran through 2002 (a la my signature).

I want HAL back on the train. He had those cool laser sounds when one would stand too close to the doors. That's another great Hartsfield memory as a kid.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:12 pm

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
On my wish list:

Your "wish" list looks rather bland and boring.

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
1. A clean, modern, global feel

Personal tastes aside, the current safety demo was all this, a few years ago. Now it's time to move on and replace it.

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
2. No Southern (US) accents... nee howdy y'all doesn't cut it in PVG

Why not? Need we all be similar sounding drones on this planet? Who's "accent" on this planet is the correct one? Just curious. I bet you have one...

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
3. Richard Anderson should NOT be on the video. "I geet to sit at his desk ever'day" is just dumb... maybe if Dick didn't sit at that darn desk everyday and got out there with the troops he'd know what was going on!

Have you met him? He knows very much what is going on and the proof is in the pudding...

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
4. The pilot on the mic at the beginning. Really? Drop it.

He actually strikes me as a very likeable person and it reminds the passengers we actually have two very important people in the front of the airplane. Where would we be without them? Right?

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
5. Be a global, cross cultural thinker... NO finger waving

This is where you are just plain wrong. In your quest to "be" a global, cross cultural thinker, you plainly disregard local culture. How ironic.
Nothing wrong with a finger at a US carrier. Foreigners that may be "offended" should demonstrate a more open mind possibly...
Sometimes being politically correct accomplishes the exact opposite.

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
6. No cheesy moments... eg, guy with gold tooth

Is it "cheesy" after seeing it 100 times? Sure. However, you are not the only one on this plane. Not everyone on board is as "global" as you. I'm amazed I still here subdued chuckles at it. Kids still wait for it. Just remember, it's not all about you my friend. Relax.

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
7. WATCH the videos of airlines outside of the US, eg, BA, LF, AF, SQ, CX, TG, QF, and learn what others do best

Preposterous "wish".
Are you implying their safety demo's are perfect? Good grief.

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
8. It's OK to use DL employees, but please choose attractive, fit employees. They don't have to be "young." If you're offended, get over it. While this is about safety, it's also about brand, image, and money

You make no sense.
DL got the "balance" actually very right in this demo. Its intent was clearly not to be phony (aside from a little collagen). But your "global, cross cultural" reasoning sounds rather bland and narrow minded.

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
9. Don't go the route of animated images a la UA and VX

Animated images remove distracting clutter that isn't needed to get a certain point across.

Quoting questions (Reply 54):
10. Offer 3-5 etiquette tips -- eg, don't kick the seat in front of you... don't abruptly recline your seat... don't punch the screen not the seatback IFE... etc

Really? This strikes me as not very "cross cultural". In certain areas of our planet "rudeness" is standard practice. It's all about your perception of it anyway. So just deal with it...  

[Edited 2012-04-27 06:16:23]
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:24 pm

Quoting peanuts (Reply 69):
Have you met him? He knows very much what is going on and the proof is in the pudding...

Completely true I'm sure, but he just doesn't come across on the video as impressive, considering he's Head Honcho of such a huge worldwide organization.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:16 pm

Quoting L1011TGU (Reply 68):
I want HAL back on the train. He had those cool laser sounds when one would stand too close to the doors. That's another great Hartsfield memory as a kid.

Someone here posted a sound file of that. I know I have it somewhere on my computer. I'll have to find it and post it.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:17 pm

Quoting C767P (Reply 37):
Have you seen the current UA one? Smisek comes across as a little weasel to me.

and this is different from reality how?? Smisek IS a weasel...
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:55 pm

Everyone acts like Deltalina is the hottest woman in aviation. I know at least 20 women fas hotter than her who don't have chemically assisted lips.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:23 am

Quoting N776AU (Reply 71):
Someone here posted a sound file of that. I know I have it somewhere on my computer. I'll have to find it and post it.



Careful, Doors Are Closing And Will Not Reopen. Please Wait For The Next Train

Here it is:


http://www.gregburrus.com/fb/Atlanta_shuttle_robot_voice.mp3
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:36 am

I never liked Deltalina… there was something creepy and false looking about her and the video was meh.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:24 am

Quoting panamair (Reply 21):
I would hardly call a few people on a.net "so many"..LOL! The over 2.6 million hits on YouTube for the video is probaby a better gauge of its popularity.....

Correct.

The video has won a number of awards for creative professionals, and is to this day one of the most watched videos on Youtube. Its celebrated for the finger wag and the gold tooth, just random elements that add to the spice of the video.

The current one is so long because Delta's fleet is so very heterogeneous. The correct solution is to have per-aircraft videos as most airlines do.

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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:27 am

Quoting L1011TGU (Reply 68):

I want HAL back on the train. He had those cool laser sounds when one would stand too close to the doors. That's another great Hartsfield memory as a kid.

Agreed. Although I always thought the voice was Cylon, not HAL.  
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:38 am

BTW, I actually learned that the new voice was introduced last month:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95DW1JOmWXA

Voice is by Sharon Feingold, the same lady as the ATL SkyTrain. They finally added back sound effects!

Now, are there any plans to replace the "Doors Closing" voice at the stations? It hasn't been changed since 1996.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:46 pm

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 74):
Here it is:


http://www.gregburrus.com/fb/Atlanta...e.mp3

That's great! Certainly brings back memories for my siblings and I when we used to be allowed to escort my father to the gate when he would leave on business trips.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:38 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 78):
Now, are there any plans to replace the "Doors Closing" voice at the stations? It hasn't been changed since 1996.

Do you remember the voice pre-1996? "Caution. Doors do not rebound or spring back."
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:47 pm

The plane train thing is so retarded. everytime I get on it people are making fun of it.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:53 am

I saw the new video onboard a 757 yesterday and its just the intro thats different. The whole thing is pretty stupid anyway.

Just show the safety instructions and stop with the fake commitment to improving the airline BS.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:41 am

Quoting armitageshanks (Reply 82):

I saw the new video onboard a 757 yesterday and its just the intro thats different. The whole thing is pretty stupid anyway.

Just show the safety instructions and stop with the fake commitment to improving the airline BS.

The video isn't even done yet.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:54 am

Quoting questions (Reply 80):
Do you remember the voice pre-1996? "Caution. Doors do not rebound or spring back."

I do. Southern drawl at its finest. They should've kept it for the Olympics.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:21 am

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 83):

The video isn't even done yet.

Well, I saw one with the CEO or something blabbing on then the standard "Deltalina" video afterwards. The whole time I was thinking "Holy plastic surgery."
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:29 am

Quoting armitageshanks (Reply 85):
Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 83):

The video isn't even done yet.

Well, I saw one with the CEO or something blabbing on then the standard "Deltalina" video afterwards. The whole time I was thinking "Holy plastic surgery."

Yeah Goold Ol' Rich has been doing this for a while, i see
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:06 am

It's sad that the old safety video will no longer available. Why such as a short time??
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:49 pm

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 87):
It's sad that the old safety video will no longer available. Why such as a short time??

The old safety video has been in use for at least 4 years now, hardly a short time. It predates the merger with NW. It's well overdue for replacement.
 
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:35 pm

Quoting timf (Reply 88):
Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 87):
It's sad that the old safety video will no longer available. Why such as a short time??


The old safety video has been in use for at least 4 years now, hardly a short time. It predates the merger with NW. It's well overdue for replacement

The video will be available on Youtube until hard drives and servers disappear.

And you are correct--the video does predate the merger. On the "changeover" day we switched to DL uniforms I was in LHR. We wore our old NW uniforms on the way over and our new DL uniforms on the way back the next day. We all stood in the hotel lobby staring at each other in the morning and saying how odd it looked to be wearing a DL uniform and DL wings.

When we got to LHR we were on an A330 that had already been painted in DL colors. When I went to the computer to start the safety video the "Deltalina" video came on the screens. I looked at my colleague standing across the aisle and we both had tears in our eyes. Just that fast we were an aviation history footnote.

And for the person that asked if not releasing "Deltalina's" real name is a "state secret." The reason is quite simple. Privacy, safety and security. We have had flight attendants murdered, raped, stalked, burglarized, assaulated and harrassed because of their jobs. And the same goes for their families. So the name you see on the nametag may or may not be our real names. We have a right to privacy, too. If you have a complaint about an employee all you have to do is contact the airline with the flight number, date, to and from cities and I guarantee that the company knows exactly who was on that airplane on that date. And no, they will not tell you. They take the security of their staff as seriously as they do the security of the aircraft.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:01 pm

It's really no secret. Just google Deltalina and NUMEROUS articles about her and her new found fame will pop up. She's an applause-junkie and obviously loves the limelight.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:03 pm

Quoting jetjack74 (Reply 90):
It's really no secret. Just google Deltalina and NUMEROUS articles about her and her new found fame will pop up. She's an applause-junkie and obviously loves the limelight.

She has a wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deltalina
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:04 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 38):
And NO, I am not going to tell you her real name!

Google: "Deltalina's real name" and BAM!

Not that I cared what it was, but it's certainly no secret. LOL.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:09 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 91):
Good ol' Kathryn Lee

Not anymore. She took her husband's surname.
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RE: Delta Introducing New Safety Video

Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:17 pm

Quoting delta2ual (Reply 93):
Not anymore. She took her husband's surname.

Good for her--wise decision. There are too many weirdos out there. And I have never known her to be an "applause junkie." She is a hardworking professional. She auditioned for the video just as many other DL employees did. Everyone was given an opportunity to apply. And they put out calls every time a new commercial or advertising campaign is planned. They use REAL DL employees, not actors.
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