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| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): What grabbed my attention was not the MD-11 style winglet, it was the blister for the nose wheel like the A330F ? |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): They are claiming that this will achieve an additional 1.5% fuel savings. |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): What grabbed my attention was not the MD-11 style winglet, it was the blister for the nose wheel like the A330F ? |
| Quoting oykie (Reply 3): Interesting. It looks like they have done some changes in this angle as well. |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): What grabbed my attention was not the MD-11 style winglet |
| Quoting clydenairways (Reply 4): Is it a raked wingtip and winglet combined? |
Glad Boeing gives the the 737 now this, errr, raked winglet? 
| Quoting planesailing (Reply 6): Are the Blended Partners designing this or is it an exclusive Boeing design? |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): They are claiming that this will achieve an additional 1.5% fuel savings. What grabbed my attention was not the MD-11 style winglet, it was the blister for the nose wheel like the A330F ? Is this a new feature ? |
| Quoting Packcheer (Reply 8): This m ight just be my eyes playing tricks on me, or I have missed an announcement somewhere along the way... |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): They are claiming that this will achieve an additional 1.5% fuel savings. |
| Quoting oykie (Reply 3): I wonder if there will be other tweaks to improve the performance even further. |
| Quoting travelavnut (Reply 5): Also in the picture of oykie the blister looks very subtle. |
| Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10): But I don't see it on the B-737-9MAX picture oykie posted. |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): Received the standard Boeing PR press release about the 737 winglet proposal, |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): it was the blister for the nose wheel like the A330F ? |
| Quoting lightsaber (Reply 12): Something has to be done for the longer nose gear... |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): What grabbed my attention was not the MD-11 style winglet, it was the blister for the nose wheel like the A330F ? |
| Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 19): We'll obviously have to see what truly gets built. However, from the updated renderings found at http://www.newairplane.com, it appears that it is limited to a bulge on the nose gear door. |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): What grabbed my attention was not the MD-11 style winglet, it was the blister for the nose wheel like the A330F ? |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): Is this a new feature ? |
| Quoting lightsaber (Reply 12): I'm personally curious as to what weight reduction will occur. I know of more than a few engineers who have been brought on for commercial aircraft weight reduction. After the 748 and 788, they could be employed on the MAX... |
| Quoting dash500 (Reply 16): Probably the marketing effect will be much greater than induced drag reduction improvement... |
Really a beautiful aircraft !!!
| Quoting CamiloA380 (Reply 20): Quite a cool video in Boeing's website: http://www.newairplane.com/737max/video/ |
| Quoting Packcheer (Reply 8): Is the rear fuselage (behind the wing box) widened and more square? It looks like the belly of the plane leading up to the tail is much more square that a normal 737 fuselage. |
| Quoting Packcheer (Reply 8): If I'm not way overthinking this... is the 737-MAX being prepped to take containers in the rear cargo space? |
| Quoting tistpaa727 (Reply 24): What caught my attention in that video was the wing flex. Seemed pretty substantial compared to today's 737. Is Boeing changing the wing? I didn't think they were or at least I hadn't seen that anywhere. |
| Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 18): I hate it. |
| Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 19): Love it! |
| Quoting clydenairways (Reply 27): Don't think you can go by that until the real thing is built. |
| Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 18): Well, allow me to be the first one to say: that looks terrible, I hate it. |
| Quoting zeke (Thread starter): What grabbed my attention was not the MD-11 style winglet, it was the blister for the nose wheel like the A330F ? Is this a new feature ? |
| Quoting travelavnut (Reply 5): I must say it looks really really cool! |
| Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10): Zeke could be right about the blister on the lower nose of the B-737-8MAX he posted. But I don't see it on the B-737-9MAX picture oykie posted. |
| Quoting lightsaber (Reply 12): One of several. For example, the tailcone will look more like the A320's than the current 737NG's. |
It seems almost like a baby 787 with that tailcone, but I believe that efficiency is already a part of the 10-12% offered initially? With the new Wingfence/lets the MAX will get 11.5 to 13.5% better than todays 737NG and I was wondering if Boeing will do anything more than what we already have confirmed?
| Quoting mffoda (Reply 17): We also have not heard much on the hybrid laminar flow control testing that Boeing started about a year ago... It was hoped to provide an additional 1% of drag reduction, I believe?? |
| Quoting neutronstar73 (Reply 25): That looks great! at first seeing the new winglet was a little jarring, but looking at the Boeing video, that new design looks great. I wonder if it will show up on other aircraft soon. |
http://www.newairplane.com/737max/video/
| Quoting boeingbus (Reply 34): This is great... as time passes by the NEO will indeed face a solid competitor. |
| Quoting boeingbus (Reply 34): We've underestimated Boeing in their plans with the MAX when you compare it to the NEO. However, introducing new technologies such as redesigned winglets to the short body is a game changer. |
| Quoting DocLightning (Reply 40): Except that there is nothing to stop Airbus from installing similar wingtip devices on the NEO. |
| Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 19): We'll obviously have to see what truly gets built. However, from the updated renderings found at http://www.newairplane.com, it appears that it is limited to a bulge on the nose gear door. |
| Quoting Revelation (Reply 22): I would think they'd be directed towards the 789. |
Some of the 788/789 team will be available in time for the MAX. Perhaps not EIS aircraft, but later examples.
| Quoting oykie (Reply 33): but I believe that efficiency is already a part of the 10-12% offered initially? With the new Wingfence/lets the MAX will get 11.5 to 13.5% better than todays 737NG and I was wondering if Boeing will do anything more than what we already have confirmed? |
| Quoting boeingbus (Reply 34): Nice vid... great marketing.. http://www.newairplane.com/737max/video/ |
| Quoting odwyerpw (Reply 35): You dont get the sense that it is a compromised installation at all. |
| Quoting lightsaber (Reply 43): Look at the video. Notice the small gap between the top of the engine and the wing. That is where the compromises due to compressible effects will happen. Its not so bad on the engine underside... Lightsaber |
| Quoting odwyerpw (Reply 35): I also appreciate that although the nacelles are still a bit squat on the bottom, the inlets appear almost perfectly round. Its accentuated by polished/brushed metal. You dont get the sense that it is a compromised installation at all. |
| Quoting odwyerpw (Reply 44): This thread is about winglets. The NG winglets were always striking, but these are something else. I agree with the poster that Boeing will get allot of marketing mileage out of these things, well beyond the 1.5% increased efficiency they provide. I really like them. |
| Quoting odwyerpw (Reply 35): All of the Videos and Photos of course are highly stylized. However, one element that always appears are highly polished windshield frames. It really helps to alleviate what some consider a dated design and compliments the polished nacelle inlets. |
| Quoting DocLightning (Reply 40): Can someone explain what this wingtip device does (aerodynamically) without resorting to too many equations? |
| Quoting lightsaber (Reply 43): Look at the video. Notice the small gap between the top of the engine and the wing. That is where the compromises due to compressible effects will happen. Its not so bad on the engine underside... |
| Quoting lightsaber (Reply 43): Look at the video. Notice the small gap between the top of the engine and the wing. That is where the compromises due to compressible effects will happen. Its not so bad on the engine underside... |
