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Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sat May 12, 2012 5:17 pm

Just wondering what's the shortest time between an airline ordering an aircraft and then cancelling the order? Also interesting to know the reasons
 
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sat May 12, 2012 6:59 pm

Wasn't the CO order for the A-343 cancelled after just a few months?
 
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sat May 12, 2012 7:07 pm

TWA's A330/318 order was short lived.
 
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sat May 12, 2012 7:26 pm

IIRC, AC was very close to firming a sizable order for the MD-88, with a LOI signed. The order was cancelled due to the large MD-80 backlog at the time. AC was able to put the A320 into service almost two years before the MD-88 would have arrived. Plus the Airbus was cheaper to acquire.

US also cancelled an MD-82 order in the early '90s. Although that had more to do with the internal turmoil at US and pulling back growth. A similar NB order was not placed until years later for the A320.

Both of these were so brief, they never made the press.

Edit: Left one out...

AS firmed an order for the MD-90, but cancelled it once it became apparent that Boeing was going to acquire Douglas. AS converted a portion of the cancelled -90 order into MD-83s, which were delivered in 1997. The rest of their business of course went to the 737NG.

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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sat May 12, 2012 7:33 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 3):
IIRC, AC was very close to firming a sizable order for the MD-88, with a LOI signed.
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 3):
US also cancelled an MD-82 order in the early '90s.

Right on both. However the US order did make it to press. I have an old copy of flight international with an article on the subject but I'm to lazy to dig it out
US was also very,very close to placing an order for 50 plus 50 717's. MD's sales team even left the Paris air show early to concentrate on getting this order. It didn't happen because of US Air's demand to receive the same deal given to Valujet

[Edited 2012-05-12 12:38:22]
 
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sat May 12, 2012 7:42 pm

Canadian carrier Wardair ordered 12 MD-88s in 1988 and cancelled them within a year, shortly before being acquired by and merged with Canadian Airlines.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/21/bu...ardair-delays-aircraft-orders.html

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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sat May 12, 2012 7:47 pm

FR's order for A320s didn't last very long; just long enough for Airbus to paint one of the house-colour A320-100s with FR's then logo at the front. Think it was mostly done for the Eurovision Song Contest that was being hosted in Dublin that year:

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Ryanair/Airbus-A320-111/2059501/M/

The order was cancelled due to the airline being very close to going to the wall; years of second hand 732s followed.
 
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sat May 12, 2012 7:49 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):

   Good job, Viscount. I forgot that one.

Quote:
Donald N. Hanson, a spokesman for McDonnell Douglas in Long Beach, Calif., said the company had not received any word from Wardair. If necessary, the aircraft maker could easily find buyers for the Wardair planes as the MD80 series ''has been selling like hotcakes,'' Mr. Hanson said.

I remember the mood at LGB was of little concern with these cancellations. Unfortunately, just a few years later (circa 1993-94) they would start to prove rather costly.
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sat May 12, 2012 7:50 pm

Quoting dtw9 (Reply 4):
However the US order did make it to press. I have an old copy of flight international with an article on the subject but I'm to lazy to dig it out
US was also very,very close to placing an order for 50 plus 50 717's. MD's sales team even left the Paris air show early to concentrate on getting this order. It didn't happen because of US Air's demand to receive the same deal given to Valujet

Yeah, back then it was called the MD-95, not the B-717.
 
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sun May 13, 2012 1:56 am

How long was the Primaris order for 7E7s valid? They were a launch airline. Was it cancelled before the plane became known as the 787?

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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sun May 13, 2012 2:05 am

Quoting rampart (Reply 9):
How long was the Primaris order for 7E7s valid?

Placed in October 2004 and cancelled in July 2006. And yes, the plane was still known as the 7E7 at the time of the order.
 
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sun May 13, 2012 3:25 pm

AC's 777/787 order comes to mind. Even though it was reinstated, AC did cancel their order with Boeing a few months after placing it due to labour issues. If I remember correctly, AC's pilots refused to fly the 777s for the same salary as the A340s.

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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sun May 13, 2012 8:59 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
Canadian carrier Wardair ordered 12 MD-88s in 1988 and cancelled them within a year, shortly before being acquired by and merged with Canadian Airlines.

Also shortly after this order was announced, Wardair announced the order for 24 F-100s. This order too was quickly cancelled.
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Sun May 13, 2012 10:15 pm

How long did NW have the 340 on order before they cancelled the order?
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Mon May 14, 2012 11:13 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 13):
How long did NW have the 340 on order before they cancelled the order?

I may be wrong, but If memory correct they never really cancelled the order. It just sort of sat there and kept being postponed until it was eventually converted to orders for NW's various other Airbus aircraft.
 
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RE: Quickest Order Cancellation?

Tue May 15, 2012 12:36 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
I may be wrong, but If memory correct they never really cancelled the order. It just sort of sat there and kept being postponed until it was eventually converted to orders for NW's various other Airbus aircraft.

That's sad   I would've loved to see the marvelous 343 in DL colors   
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