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What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 12:31 am

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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 12:44 am

PHX around mid-morning. Late 70's as you can see the construction of the new terminal 3 in the background.

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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 12:59 am

So those are all 707s-- no 720Bs? We're looking NE?
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 1:00 am

Looks like TUS to me. For example, in their January 1979 timetable AA's nonstop departures from TUS were as follows. Note at that time they had 4 707 departures plus one 727 between 1105 and 1300, including 3 707s between 1200 and 1300

0125 - 727 ORD
0325 - 727 DFW
0720 - D10 PHX
0900 - 727 ORD
0935 - 727 DFW
1105 - 707 ORD
1150 - 727 DFW
1200 - 707 JFK
1245 - 707 PSP
1300 - 707 SFO
1345 - 727 ORD
1435 - 727 ELP
1520 - 727 DFW
1625 - 707 SAN
2250 - 707 SAN
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 1:05 am

Im 100% sure it's PHX and not TUS. The control tower at TUS is no where near the terminal and TUS never had a observation deck.
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 1:17 am

Quoting TUSAA (Reply 1):
PHX around mid-morning. Late 70's as you can see the construction of the new terminal 3 in the background.

The only reason I said TUS was because the control tower didn't look like the PHX tower in these 1963 and 1973 PHX photos.


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But since it looks like you live in TUS and I've never been there, you're probably right.  
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 1:23 am

I will second that its PHX, as that was the old control tower(now gone).
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 1:25 am

When they built terminal 3 at PHX they also built a new control tower, which has since been replaced by another newer one. This photo was taken sometime between 77-79. I seem to recall AA,WA,DL and CO all moved into terminal 3 near the end of '79.
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 2:13 am

I'm going with PHX too. That looks like camel back mtn. In the distance.
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 2:52 am

Definitely Sky Harbor. I spent a lot of time on that roof-top observation deck myself!

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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 3:56 am

That and the mountain in the background is Camelback Mountain.
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 5:01 pm

I remember flying in and out of PHX back in 1976. AA and Trans World were on the same concourse. Each had one or two gates that had jet bridges. Then, you walked down a set of stairs to the rest of the gates, which were at ramp level.

Coming in from ORD on an AA DC-10, we deplaned via a jet bridge. Going out to ORD on a TWA L-1011, we boarded via a jet bridge, and I think the 707 going to STL out of the next gate was also parked at a jet bridge.

It looks like the 707 farthest away to the left is parked at the gate with the jet bridge.

I'm trying to think of other airports that AA served that sit near mountains. The only one I can think of is SLC, and this isn't SLC. There are way too many AA jets. In the 1970s, AA had Western doing its "below the wing" service, and the stairs have AA logos, rather than WA logos.
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 5:04 pm

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 10):
That and the mountain in the background is Camelback Mountain.

Camelback Mountain is instantly recognizable. Definitely Sky Harbor.
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 8:06 pm

Great hair and fashion in that photo, too.
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 8:44 pm

3 x 707-023B, 1 x 720, and a 727-200. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 8:48 pm

He says it's 1977 or later; weren't all the 720Bs gone by then?
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 9:20 pm

Three of the four 707s have HF antennas, but the fourth isn't automatically a 720. Many 707-123s had the fin mounted HF antenna removed in later years. Likewise, any of the airplanes with antennas in the picture could be -323s. It's impossible to tell from this photograph.
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Fri May 18, 2012 10:04 pm

Quoting c133 (Reply 16):
Likewise, any of the airplanes with antennas in the picture could be -323s.
Quoting c133 (Reply 16):
Likewise, any of the airplanes with antennas in the picture could be -323s. It's impossible to tell from this photograph.

You can tell that the first 707 with the HF antenna is a -123. Not enough windows for a -323, and too many for a 720.
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Sat May 19, 2012 12:35 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):

1150 - 727 DFW
1200 - 707 JFK
1245 - 707 PSP
1300 - 707 SFO

So the above pic was taken likely around 1200. Looks like the 72S is ready for departure.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):

1105 - 707 ORD
1150 - 727 DFW
1200 - 707 JFK
1245 - 707 PSP
1300 - 707 SFO

Maybe one flight was delayed. I doubt the ORD 707 was normally on the ground the same time as the SFO 707.
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Sat May 19, 2012 12:46 am

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 18):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):

1150 - 727 DFW
1200 - 707 JFK
1245 - 707 PSP
1300 - 707 SFO

So the above pic was taken likely around 1200. Looks like the 72S is ready for departure.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):

1105 - 707 ORD
1150 - 727 DFW
1200 - 707 JFK
1245 - 707 PSP
1300 - 707 SFO

Maybe one flight was delayed. I doubt the ORD 707 was normally on the ground the same time as the SFO 707.

No, all that schedule data was for TUS where I thought the photo had been taken, but it's been confirmed it was taken at PHX so you can ignore the schedule info. However, it's interesting that if the photo really was at TUS the schedule almost works.

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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Sat May 19, 2012 8:55 am

As a TUS resident for most of my childhood, I can say the photo is definitely not Tucson. The tower in the background definitely resembles PHX. Also, I can't recall TUS ever having five AA aircraft on the ground at one time.

Jeez, I love those 707s with the antennas. Iconic styling from our friends at Boeing!
 
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Sat May 19, 2012 10:14 am

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 20):
Jeez, I love those 707s with the antennas. Iconic styling from our friends at Boeing!

Amen to that! I wish there were more 707's still plying the skies... *sigh*
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RE: What Airport? (Five AA Boeings-- Early 1970s?)

Sat May 19, 2012 12:05 pm

Quoting c133 (Reply 16):
Three of the four 707s have HF antennas, but the fourth isn't automatically a 720. Many 707-123s had the fin mounted HF antenna removed in later years. Likewise, any of the airplanes with antennas in the picture could be -323s. It's impossible to tell from this photograph.

After AA took delivery of DC-10s, the 720s were phased out. They were retired several years before AA-s 707-123s and -323s. When AA sold their 720s, some of the buyers wanted HF antennas, so AA swapped the tail fins of HF equipped 707-123s with the fins of non-equipped 720s.

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