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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:30 pm

How congested is SAW? Is it facing the same fate as IST?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:01 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 49):
Yes, but some posts got deleted as far as i see... Who does that??

Didn't know that.
If a member "suggests deletion" the moderators will erase the post and all the posts related to it.
I wouldn't take it personally, most of the time a very useful option to keep things in order.

Quoting ju068 (Reply 50):
How congested is SAW? Is it facing the same fate as IST?

I don't think it is congested at all. Also like I asked at the very beginning, I think they approved a second parallel runway recently.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:04 pm

Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 47):
Additionally, the argument regarding having a separate bridge for transit trucks is not only illogical but also useless as transit trucks constitute a tiny amount of the actual bridge crossing traffic. During rush hours both bridges have almost stopping traffic, where as the transit truck traffic is not permitted on both bridges. So, even without the transit truck traffic you have heavy traffic, thus an argument based on building a new bridge&highway and moving transit traffic there is not based on facts, and is unfounded.

I'd be happy to have an offline discussion, but the need for a bypass bridge for commerce is key. There are almost 3 million TIR trucks that transit Istanbul annually and the lack of capacity coupled with bridge restrictions you mention impede commerce, and cost everyone lots of wasted money. Shippers not only take delays, and spend needles extra money, but they must resort to things like using ships as Istanbul has become such a choke-point.

In more simplistic terms, commercial traffic has grown near 7% annually since the great expansion of the Turkish economy, and as Turkey continues to serve a hugely important link between East-West. Even for Turkey's own commerce, 92% of goods in utilize roads to be distributed. As example the state of Istanbul roads has far and wide impacts including on economic activity in Anatolia and on competitiveness of Turkey's exports.

Anyhow just like airport capacity, Istanbul today is an ever growing metropolis. Back in 1973 when the first bridge was built the population was under 3 million, then by 1980s it double to 6 million when the second bridge arrived. Today its again doubled to more than 13 million. The 3rd bridge, a 4th bridge, and one day a 5th bridge along with multiple tunnels is easily justified to move people and goods in my view.

Quoting ju068 (Reply 50):
How congested is SAW? Is it facing the same fate as IST?
SAW still has plenty of head room for growth.
The new terminal design capacity is 25mil. In 2011 it handled just under 13mil.

[Edited 2012-06-04 09:17:57]
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:18 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 51):
I don't think it is congested at all. Also like I asked at the very beginning, I think they approved a second parallel runway recently.
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 52):

SAW still has plenty of head room for growth.
The new terminal design capacity is 25mil. In 2011 it handled just under 13mil.

Thanks for the info. So could we see Turkish Airlines replicating what they did at IST? Nautrally they can never do it to the same scale, but if SAW has more space for expansion, why not? It just got me thinking with these new services to Kiev.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:37 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 51):
If a member "suggests deletion" the moderators will erase the post and all the posts related to it.
I wouldn't take it personally,

Not my posts, but of some other's...

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 52):

I agree that trucks need to be transported somehow. But for this other solutions need to be found. What is wrong with substituting the 2nd brdige with a really huge one. Bypass through the city can be enabled by not letting cars/trucks enter/leave dedicated "bypass-lanes" (similar to sahilyolu). Gives the same result without spoiling the worlwide unique Bosphorus and the last forrests. On the other hand, tunnels can also contribute and nobody sees them as they are underground.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:55 pm

Quoting ju068 (Reply 53):
Thanks for the info. So could we see Turkish Airlines replicating what they did at IST? Nautrally they can never do it to the same scale, but if SAW has more space for expansion, why not? It just got me thinking with these new services to Kiev.

TK growth in IST comes also from longhaul expansion which in SAW is not possible at the moment. they cannot just transfer a few 330s and start flying to USA or Far East. Only in recent they could even expand USA to the point what we have now (before everybody remembers the only daily to JFK and a few flights to ORD).
The strategy of TK in SAW at the moment is to transfer a few shorthaul aircraft and offer strong O/D destinations. For instance, they recently added ADB/AYT/BJV/DLM. Those flights can easily be filled from IST and SAW. By offering a little lower prices from SAW you attract even the people on the European side. On the other hand they are able to fill those "left" capacities with transfer passengers ex NA, EU, Asia.
Kiew is just another example. Strong O/D market and those three flights (which for sure are rest capacities) are always full, I'm pretty sure.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:03 am

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 55):

I was not referring to transfering the longhaul flights. However, expand routes with strong O&D demand (as is the case with Kiev) and then expand the network by offering connections via SAW as well.
I am sure they will add more international flights soon.

By the way, is Kiev their first European/international destination out of SAW?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:56 am

Quoting ju068 (Reply 56):

By the way, is Kiev their first European/international destination out of SAW?

IIRC they used to fly to the UK and Germany as well as MOW, but I might mix it up
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:20 pm

Mahan Air launching Ankara from 14 June according to their website.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:25 am

http://vimeo.com/42681236 - Kokpit CNN Türk video showing interior and exterior of the new BJV terminal.

photo:
http://www.arkitera.com/haber/index/...bir-noktasi-olmayi-hedefliyor/8572

The photos I included in my trip report didn't do it any justice. Both links are in Turkish so my apologies to any non Turkish speakers out there.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:48 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 58):

TK is going 5 daily on ESB IKA and IR is doing 3 weekly. With Mahan Air stepping in 3 airlines on the same route is a first for ESB international.

I think ESB needs a connection to Tebriz as well.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:27 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 60):
TK is going 5 daily on ESB IKA and IR is doing 3 weekly. With Mahan Air stepping in 3 airlines on the same route is a first for ESB international.

What is the reason for so much demand from Ankara to Tehran? Ankara is not a TK hub so there aren't many options to connect to.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:13 pm

Quoting ju068 (Reply 61):

In fact there are wide connections with AnadoluJet to other Turkish destinations and TK is attracting transit pax on the route.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:42 pm

Quoting ju068 (Reply 61):
Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 60):
TK is going 5 daily on ESB IKA and IR is doing 3 weekly. With Mahan Air stepping in 3 airlines on the same route is a first for ESB international.

What is the reason for so much demand from Ankara to Tehran? Ankara is not a TK hub so there aren't many options to connect to.

He means 5w.

New traffic report has been released. The growing trend is continuing and the first time, IST passed the 40 mio pax/year mark for 12 months:
2011 complete: 37.394.694
for 01/12-05/12: increase from 13.605.835 to 16.525.104 = additional 2.919.269
Makes for 06/11-05/12 a total number of 40.313.963 !!!
Until now, IST has grown by 21% in the first 5 months. Let's assume 18% growth for whole 2012, than traffic for 2012 will be around 44 mio pax/year. A further growth of 14% (if possible, hahaha) will make it to 50 mio pax.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:51 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 62):
Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 63):

Thank you for the clarification.


I was looking at some flights with TK and I noticed two things:

1. They added Serbia to the list of countries, it was about time.
2. In the bottom of the page it was written 'Socially Yours', what's up with that?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:54 am

Quoting ju068 (Reply 64):
In the bottom of the page it was written 'Socially Yours', what's up with that?

"Socially Yours" is used in connection with the social networking and other media sites used by TK. The term is only used when it has the links to FB, twitter, youtube etc next to it.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:53 pm

According to the Transport Ministry, the international tender for the construction of the 3rd Istanbul airport will be released in September.
Plans call for up to 6 runways, and eventual terminal capacity in the 120-150mil range.

Should be an interesting document to review. I'm sure due to the size of the project and as Istanbul gains prominence as a global hub, many parties will be interested in participating and getting a slice of the pie.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:16 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 63):

The way the trend in Turkey continues upward soon ESB and ADB will also pass the 10 mil pax passmark, in fact expected to be by the end of 2012.

Better late than never !!!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:13 pm

TK will be receiving 6 x A321s this year.
#5 had its first flight today, TC-JSB. Another beauty for "wing" to take out for a flight!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:52 am

Today sees AnadoluJet's shrinking down to a domestic carrier and exiting all international operations ex-ESB after a trial of 3 years.

First of all what a waste that TK left Ankara to AnadoluJet for so long,

Secondly, the way TK assumed its position at ESB was made in a rush. Nobody knew anything up until 18 days ago that this was the plan. Now 12 destinations are being started some of them are continuation from the Ajet operations. Thanks God, this is the high season and I do not think filling these flights will be difficult even quite insufficient given the demand at this time in particular.

TK does not even have a * Gold lounge in international terminal any more and rely on a commonly shared lounge so I guess wh this exposure they will have to open that once again.

TK now needs to maintain consistent service.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:28 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 68):
5 had its first flight today, TC-JSB. Another beauty for "wing" to take out for a flight!

I was lucky to fly the maiden revenue flights of TC-JRA to London when I was a FO,and TC-JRO to Kayseri as a Captain.I flew the TC-JSA four days after it was delivered and it had 3 hold items on it already.(hold item: not working systems which are not effecting the flt.safety and due to be repaired in the next available maintenance)
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:11 pm

Quoting ju068 (Reply 64):
2. In the bottom of the page it was written 'Socially Yours', what's up with that?

I quite like that slogan and makes sense.  

TK have produced a new high quality book about their product and growth/history etc... managed to get one and certainly recommend to anyone else if they manage to get their hands on one.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:41 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 71):
TK have produced a new high quality book about their product and growth/history etc... managed to get one and certainly recommend to anyone else if they manage to get their hands on one.



Interesting, how can one get this book?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:50 pm

Iraqi Airways are said to have launched four times weekly Baghdad-Antalya service.

[Edited 2012-06-10 12:00:42]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:57 am

Flew AMS-IST on TC-JRU .. Very nice airplane, very nice crew but the purser English was at the level when I first started to learn the language on 4th grade..I hate these type of flight attendants when they get on PA and they try to make their English sound perfect by putting some fake accent to them.. Not only that, her English level was so poor, she was not even able read from a scripted FAM.
The food was awesome and made my taste bud go crazy after the 'pasta' they served on USAirways 757 to AMS. One has to make a study how horrible the airline service is in the United States with a 757 that is from gazillion years ago with stinking toilets with no service at all.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:40 am

For clarification purposes the following is TK service to/from ESB on TK metal;

Amsterdam,
Baghdad,
Berlin,
Brussels,
Cologne/Bonn,
Düsseldorf,
Hamburg,
Istanbul-Ataturk,
Istanbul-SAW,
Moscow,
Stockholm,
Stuttgart,
Vienna,
Tehran-IKA

Only left out international service to AnadoluJet is Ercan-Nicosia
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:13 am

Is it possible to upgrade an economy class tickets (purchased by miles) to comfort class at the airport ? TK call center does not upgrade but they have no idea if it is possible at the airport .
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:20 pm

http://ekonomi.haberturk.com/airport...bes-sehre-daha-ucmayi-hedefliyoruz
TK's Kotil on more expansion to China;
-TK is flying to 3 cities in China 7 x weekly each, a total of 21 flights weekly.
-TK wants 7 more freqs each for PEK and CVG
-Besides these 3 cities, TK wants to fly daily to 5 other cities in China, which will be a total of 70 flights weekly to China from IST, up from current 21.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:54 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 77):
-Besides these 3 cities, TK wants to fly daily to 5 other cities in China, which will be a total of 70 flights weekly to China from IST, up from current 21.

With what though? 737s?

Although he also said TK is interested in A380 or 748I (like that is news anymore).
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...d-of-jumbo-jets-on-surging-traffic
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:05 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 77):
http://ekonomi.haberturk.com/airport...bes-sehre-daha-ucmayi-hedefliyoruz
TK's Kotil on more expansion to China;
-TK is flying to 3 cities in China 7 x weekly each, a total of 21 flights weekly.
-TK wants 7 more freqs each for PEK and CVG
-Besides these 3 cities, TK wants to fly daily to 5 other cities in China, which will be a total of 70 flights weekly to China from IST, up from current 21.

he wants a lot when the day is long...
PEK and PVG are currently the only ones served daily (with 77W though). CAN is seeing only 4x weekly service on 343 equipment.
Nevertheless, flights to/from China a stricly regulated by biletarels. Only recently they were able to add the frequencies to PVG and PEK. Before both cities were served together in one flight.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:29 pm

Just came back from BOS-IAD-DOH-DAC runs on QR. Saw TK A332s parked in Dhaka both on my arrival and departure days (early morning hours). Passenger crowd looked similar to ours (QR) from eyeballing. Does anyone know how the IST-DAC sector has been performing?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:47 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 79):
CAN is seeing only 4x weekly service on 343 equipment.

Thanks for the correction stylo.

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 78):
TK is interested in A380 or 748I
http://www.airkule.com/default.asp?page=haber&id=11920
and let's add mid-range planes to that also. Kotil is talking about, I guess neos or 737max. Probably both.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:26 am

Hi Guys,

I need some info. I am flying SYD-SIN-IST in September and need to book a domestic flight IST-ESB.
How much time should I allow for the connection these days. Would 2 hours be sufficient?

Thanks
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:45 am

Keep in mind TK also operates cargo services to China which eats up frequencies.

In the state visit of Erdogan to China in April, the topic of additional frequencies was discussed, and based on growing trade, and new importance China has placed on strategic links with Turkey, I believe additional traffic rights for the Turkish side will be forthcoming.
I know THY has looked at Urumqi, Xian, Chengdu, and Chongqing as new potential markets.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:24 am

Quoting tk388 (Reply 82):

Can you please advise which ariline are you flying on to IST. It is also important as to at what time you arrive to IST to see if 2 hours would work. It should work if your plane arrives on time and disembarks without long delays.

If you check your lugage all the way to ESB you will need to pass through passport control in IST only and then walk to the domestic terminal to catch your connecting domestic flight to ESB. If you are travelling Business Class to ESB or if your ticket is economy class but you have a Star Alliance Silver or Gold Card, you can use the CIP terminal located midway between International and Domestic terminals in IST. That is more convenient to use and you also save time.

When you disembark at ESB you should pay attention to go to international terminal to clear your luggage from customs, there is usually a TK ground hostess as you walk out from the air birdge who directs you to international arrivals if you have luggage to clear. At this time you can also use in bound duty free shops at ESB as well.

The easiest way to fly to ESB from Far East or down under is QR through Doha because of the congestion in IST. If you cannot make your connection I am sure TK will accomodate you on the next flight.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:52 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 84):

Thanks for your response mate. The detail is much appreciated.
I am flying SQ (just to fly on the A380 on the SYD-SIN leg) arriving at IST 07:45.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:21 am

Turkish Airlines transferred its 49% ownership stake to the Federation of Bosnia & Herzegovina. The Balkan adventure has (finally?) ended.

Sources:
Airporthaber.com (Turkish)
EX-YU Aviation (English)
luchtvaartnieuws.nl (Dutch)
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:17 am

Quoting TK1244 (Reply 86):

They bought this stake for around 6 million dollars, invested money etc. At the beginning it was a huge circus a la "we are growing and even bought an airline", and now... Poor management. Who is going to pay for this? Management is making such mistakes causing the loss of money, and then fire their employees for making use of their democratic rights. All the positive sides are used for government propaganda and putting in their own people, all the negative sides are socialized to the handicap of the employees.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:09 pm

What is the situation of the A343 fleet? TC-JIJ has been returned to ILFC and TC-JIK seems to be in the same situation, but also TK's oldest A343 TC-JDJ has not flown for almost a month. The active fleet seems to stand at 6 units and the main longhaul flying program are the CAN, BKK SGN and IAD routes right now.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:23 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 88):
What is the situation of the A343 fleet?

I was going to bring this up also.
Very little use from the 343 fleet, after going through refurbs.
To those destinations I can add, TLV, Casablanca, Riyadh, Seoul.
On the other hand, 343 fleet is not even being used as spare frames for the 77W fleet. Recently there was a problem with one of the 77Ws at IST. The pax were sent home for the night, instead of subbing a 343. I am not sure if there was a spare 343, but still 77W fleet doesn't have a spare, or no 343 can sub, both seems not quiet right at a hub like IST.

On the other hand, I can say 332/333/77W fleets are being used a lot these days, if you were to do another "fleet utilization".
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:29 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 87):
Who is going to pay for this?

Why should anyone pay? The concept and plans for B&H were good at the time. Unfortunately THY had to deal with a poor (both business and financial) partner that could not reciprocate and participate in running the venture.
THY ended up putting all the money in, while it could not control the company with B&H government openly working against the venture.

Thankfully they did not touch LOT, as it could be similar, with THY showing up with a bag of money, but without the ownership control to properly manage the company without interference from a foreign government.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 88):
What is the situation of the A343 fleet? TC-JIJ has been returned to ILFC and TC-JIK seems to be in the same situation,

The ex Air Jamaica A340 leases have indeed come to an end (thankfully) and were returned during the winter.

Much of the remaining A340 fleet is for sale. For example TC-JDM, JIH, JII being remarketed by a US company, while JDJ was being offered directly for sale by TK.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:30 pm

The spare A343 capacity could easily cater for at least one additional long haul destination, even more. The longhaul flying program is really restricted to IAD, BKK SGN and CAN these days, occasionally ICN, but not much else. All the other flights are your typical short and medium haul rountrips.

Replacing a B77W by a spare A343 is likely to be impossible without prior arrangements because of (cockpit) crew issues with the return portion of the trip, so because of the high B77W utilization, irregularities there often lead to excessive delays.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:32 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 90):
Why should anyone pay? The concept and plans for B&H were good at the time. Unfortunately THY had to deal with a poor (both business and financial) partner that could not reciprocate and participate in running the venture.
THY ended up putting all the money in, while it could not control the company with B&H government openly working against the venture.

In my opinion, predicting such kind of possibilities makes the difference between a good and a poor management...

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 90):
Much of the remaining A340 fleet is for sale

Ah ok. And which aircraft will replace them? Will this be a problem?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:08 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 90):
For example TC-JDM, JIH, JII being remarketed by a US company, while JDJ was being offered directly for sale by TK.


Thanks for the info,
Good luck to TK trying to sell -JDJ (oldest, almost 19 years old)

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 92):
Ah ok. And which aircraft will replace them?

Maybe we can expect that order "wing" was talking about last month. More 77Ws, or 748/380, or
dare I say 787/350.
Or pick up some used frames of 332/333.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:40 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 92):
In my opinion, predicting such kind of possibilities makes the difference between a good and a poor management...

I dont see it that way.

Lets go back to 2008. Who could have predicted, the global economic slow down, and European financial avalance? How about the 2010 election in B&H that saw changes in government direction.

Simply put entire picture of the world, Europe and Bosnia has changed. For example its not just THY that has a hard time in B&H, the largest deal in Bosnian history - a €1.4 Bil deal for a power plant even fell apart as the Bosnian government failed to transfer the plant in timely manner to their Czech partners, and also failed to put in the required 20% investment.

At the end of the day, THY entered the deal in good faith, with big hopes. There were plans to develop a scissor hub in Sarajevo even - make SJJ into a mini-Balkan hub, but again the Bosnian side failed to make the required changes at SJJ. In the last 2-years the B&H government failed to adhere to the 2008 purchase agreement - by repeatedly failing to provide their share of the needed capital.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:12 pm

Any word on IST-IAH?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:33 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 93):

No mention of TK ordering the 787 or A350 instead they want this take a look http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...jumbo-jets-on-surging-traffic.html ......
 
leftyboarder
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:43 pm

TK plans to start EZE finally via GRU in November. April 2013 is given as start date for IST-IAH. Embraer is still being looked at as a possible supplier. All (in Portuguese) here: http://www.mercadoeeventos.com.br/site/noticias/view/85496
 
HB-IWC
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:15 pm

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 97):
TK plans to start EZE finally via GRU in November

In preparation of the launch of EZE, the GRU schedule seems to have been adjusted from November onwards, and it looks like a recipe for disaster:

TK015 IST GRU 0915 1900
TK016 GRU IST 0515 2135

The GRU EZE GRU schedule, which will fit in between has not yet been loaded, but the flight seems to miss most connectivity at IST. I would think that a departure in the midnight bank with an early afternoon return would make much more sense.
 
StevenG
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2012

Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:36 pm

Is TK still considering to start (or resume) flights to MIA?

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