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DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:21 am

It's been a while since I last posted one of these threads, so I spent some of my free time over the last few weeks looking through the schedules for the four US-based legacy airlines and gathering the following numbers.

To ensure a fair comparison, I used the same date for all four airlines: Thursday, July 26, 2012. I like using Thursdays because they seem to me to be the most "average", although they usually tend to be more of a peak day than not. Data was gathered from the UA and US online timetables, the AA booking engine, and the DL desktop timetable. There will undoubtedly be further minor tweaks to the schedules, but I would expect this to be a fairly accurate representation of what the peak summer schedule will look like.

For each legacy carrier, I will show the data for all stations with 100+ departures. Due to the number of stations for some airlines (DL and UA), I will create a separate thread for each to keep it manageable. Also, I'm grouping aircraft by body type (not differentiating engines, interiors, ETOPS, etc.) to simplify things. For example, I won't differentiate M82 from M83 (if there's a difference in the frame, I'm unaware of it...), but I will denote M88 and M90 separately. I'm sorry if that bothers you. Additionally, I'm going to use the same aircraft codes across all the threads for consistency's sake (for example, I'll note 737-700 as 73G for all airlines, even though DL uses the 73W code). Once again, sorry if that bothers you.

Here is the data for DL:


ATL

CRJ: 260
CR7: 44
CR9: 63
E75: 4
D95: 44
319: 33
320: 17
M88: 226
M90: 53
73G: 19
738: 31
752: 180
753: 12
763: 31
764: 5
332: 3
333: 4
77L: 3
744: 1

Total: 1033


DTW

ER4: 16
CRJ: 262
CR7: 45
CR9: 44
E70: 1
E75: 17
D95: 8
319: 24
320: 31
M88: 23
M90: 4
738: 23
752: 25
753: 9
763: 6
764: 3
332: 2
333: 4
777: 3
77L: 1
744: 2

Total: 553


MSP

CRJ: 156
CR7: 12
CR9: 42
E70: 12
E75: 57
D95: 2
319: 31
320: 37
M88: 11
M90: 48
738: 11
752: 38
753: 10
763: 3
764: 1
332: 2
333: 1
777: 1

Total: 475


SLC

EM2: 20
CRJ: 72
CR7: 27
CR9: 48
E75: 10
319: 20
320: 27
738: 23
752: 24
753: 1
763: 5

Total: 277


LGA

ER4: 56
CRJ: 7
CR7: 50
CR9: 2
E70: 29
E75: 49
319: 13
320: 24
M88: 18
738: 4
752: 16

Total: 268


JFK

ER4: 4
CRJ: 42
CR7: 7
CR9: 21
319: 10
320: 3
M88: 6
73G: 3
738: 33
752: 25
763: 13
764: 8
332: 1
333: 3
744: 2

Total: 181


MEM

ER4: 3
CRJ: 83
CR7: 6
CR9: 20
D95: 3
319: 4
320: 12
M88: 9
738: 6
763: 1

Total: 147


CVG

CRJ: 64
CR7: 11
CR9: 19
E75: 1
320: 6
M88: 14
M90: 1
738: 7
763: 1

Total: 124


LAX

CR7: 25
CR9: 16
320: 10
738: 13
752: 28
753: 4
763: 7
332: 1
77L: 3


Once again, note that I used the 73G code instead of 73W to maintain consistency across threads. And I lumped the 73H code in with 738. The touchiest point is probably that I merged the 763/767 codes, so "763" above represents all 767-300 variants.
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:04 am

What about NRT, CDG, and AMS ?

Thanks for the report! Sad to see CVG so shortlisted  
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:10 am

Wow! Even as a user who flies out of ATL the most, this shocked me. I am amazed at how many regional jets DL flies out of ATL. It just blows my mind that DL has more CRJ departures than MD-88 departures (when I knew that they had a lot of MD-88s in their fleet). Any idea where that 744 flies to? I assume that the route is only flown with a 744 in the winter.
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Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:42 am

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 2):
Any idea where that 744 flies to? I assume that the route is only flown with a 744 in the winter.

NRT IIRC
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:44 am

DL metal looks pretty slim out west these days.
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:11 am

Wow! 29 mainline flights at CVG and 35 at MEM. That's crazy!

Thanks for putting this together!
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:16 am

Quoting FSDan (Thread starter):
LAX

CR7: 25
CR9: 16
320: 10
738: 13
752: 28
753: 4
763: 7
332: 1
77L: 3

Total: 107
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:33 am

Quoting Lono (Reply 4):
DL metal looks pretty slim out west these days.

I know, hopefully we'll see some additional flying at LAX. While definitely not a hub, SEA is a focus city/Asian gateway and I'm curious to know how many daily flights we have there.
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:41 am

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 2):
Wow! Even as a user who flies out of ATL the most, this shocked me. I am amazed at how many regional jets DL flies out of ATL. It just blows my mind that DL has more CRJ departures than MD-88 departures (when I knew that they had a lot of MD-88s in their fleet). Any idea where that 744 flies to? I assume that the route is only flown with a 744 in the winter.

The Atl 744 is to NRT and it begins this friday 6/8 with the reconfigured 744.

I am surprised with the number of DC 9 departures from ATL. I guess the large majority of the 717 will be in ATL as well.

[Edited 2012-06-05 23:45:44]
 
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Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:43 am

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 8):
The Atl 744 is to NRT and it begins this friday 6/8 with the reconfigured 744.

Are the 744 refurbs done? Was having a conversation today with someone and they were saying they heard the 744 was coming back onto the MSP-NRT route pending the refurbs finishing up.
 
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Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:49 am

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 9):
Are the 744 refurbs done? Was having a conversation today with someone and they were saying they heard the 744 was coming back onto the MSP-NRT route pending the refurbs finishing up.

No the 744 refurbs are about half way done but they are progressing fast now as they do 2-3 frames at a time.
 
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Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:21 am

Another notable station is BOS with 74 daily departures.
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:28 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):

It is. The 777s are LAX/JNB and DXB
hopefully fuel will keep going down and TLV will come back.

Quoting FSDan (Thread starter):
ATL

CRJ: 260
CR7: 44
CR9: 63
E75: 4
D95: 44
319: 33
320: 17
M88: 226
M90: 53
73G: 19
738: 31
752: 180
753: 12
763: 31
764: 5
332: 3
333: 4
77L: 3
744: 1

Total: 1033


DTW

ER4: 16
CRJ: 262
CR7: 45
CR9: 44
E70: 1
E75: 17
D95: 8
319: 24
320: 31
M88: 23
M90: 4
738: 23
752: 25
753: 9
763: 6
764: 3
332: 2
333: 4
777: 3
77L: 1
744: 2

Total: 553

I think we can get a good idea where the 717s will mostly go. I would bet ATL and DTW see most of them, with the rest going to NYC and MSP.

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 2):
It just blows my mind that DL has more CRJ departures

and all of those CRJ flights are within 750m.
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:55 am

I'm surprised there are only 31 daily 738 departures out of ATL. Thought it would be more than that.

Excellent work, BTW.
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:54 pm

Quoting BDL757 (Reply 6):

Total: 107

Whoops, my bad. Thanks for catching that.
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:07 pm

Very interesting. Thanks for doing this.

Quoting FSDan (Thread starter):
ATL
D95: 44

DTW
D95: 8

MSP
D95: 2

Quite the change from the days of NW, huh?
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:12 pm

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 12):
and all of those CRJ flights are within 750m

I assume this is because of the first-class requirement, in which case you must only be referring to the CR1/CR2. I was actually referring to all CRJs (including the 700s and 900s) in my post. The requirement is 750 statute miles and not nautical miles, correct?
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:12 pm

Quoting rbgso (Reply 13):
I'm surprised there are only 31 daily 738 departures out of ATL. Thought it would be more than that.

Some of the 738/MD88 C. American flying (e.g. SAL) has been shifted to 319s. Don't know where the 738s/MD88 have moved to.
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:35 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 17):
Some of the 738/MD88 C. American flying (e.g. SAL) has been shifted to 319s. Don't know where the 738s/MD88 have moved to.

A portion of the ATL 738 and MD88 flying moved to DTW. A good portion of DTW - west of the Rockies flying is now flown on 738s. In addition, the MD88 flying as grown, as they reduced the amount of A319/A320 flying post-merger out of DTW.

Here is another way to look at the data, taking it up a level. I only did this for the major connecting hubs, in light of time. This give another view as to how the fleet is deployed.

Prop: EM2
50 Seat RJs: CRJ, ERJ
2 class RJs: CR7, CR9, E70, E75
Small Narrowbody: D95, 319, 73G
Large Narrowbody: A320, 738, MD88, MD90, 757, 753
Widebody: 332, 332, 763, 764, 777, 77L, 744

ATL:
Turboprop: 0
50 Seat RJs: 260
2 class RJs: 111
Small N/B: 96
Large N/B: 519
Widebody: 47

DTW:
Turboprop: 0
50 Seat RJs: 278
2 class RJs: 107
Small N/B: 32
Large N/B: 115
Widebody: 21

MSP:
Turboprop: 0
50 Seat RJs: 156
2 class RJs: 123
Small N/B: 33
Large N/B: 155
Widebody: 8

SLC:
Turboprop: 20
50 Seat RJs: 72
2 class RJs: 85
Small N/B: 20
Large N/B: 75
Widebody: 5
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:44 pm

Quoting FSDan (Thread starter):
I'll note 737-700 as 73G for all airlines, even though DL uses the 73W code). Once again, sorry if that bothers you.

Hi FSDan,

Nothing apologize for. This is very outstanding work that I'm sure a lot of us will get enjoyment from - and learn something. This is why we look at A.net to enjoy this kind of thorough analysis like you have provided.

73W refers to 737-700s with winglets. Likewise, 737-800s with winglets are often designated as 73H, rather than 738. However, as I think you are noting, this is not always applied consistently. That is why DL calls their 737-700s as 73W, rather than 73G, because of the winglets. So, you'll see 73W or 73G sometimes interchangeably, and 738 and 73H the same. I'm not sure if there is a different designation for 739s with winglets.

Does this make sense?
 
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Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:16 pm

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 18):

I'll add to this,
JFK
Turboprop: 0
50 Seat RJs: 46
2 class RJs: 28
Small N/B: 13
Large N/B: 64
Widebody: 27

LGA
Turboprop: 0
50 Seat RJs: 63
2 class RJs: 130
Small N/B: 13
Large N/B: 62
Widebody: 0

LAX
Turboprop: 0
50 Seat RJs: 0
2 class RJs: 41
Small N/B: 0
Large N/B: 55
Widebody: 11

MEM
Turboprop: 0
50 Seat RJs: 86
2 class RJs: 26
Small N/B: 7
Large N/B: 27
Widebody: 1

CVG
Turboprop: 0
50 Seat RJs: 64
2 class RJs: 31
Small N/B: 0
Large N/B: 28
Widebody: 1
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:37 pm

180 757 movements from ATL per day!!!!

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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:00 pm

Is it just me or did LAX grow in number of daily flights...

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 21):

180 757 movements from ATL per day!!!!

Pretty crazy
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:49 pm

Also missing 1 747 for LAX on DL to NRT....
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:52 pm

Quoting dlflynhayn (Reply 23):
Also missing 1 747 for LAX on DL to NRT....

He took a July date for this data; LAX-NRT uses a 777 starting this coming weekend for the rest of the summer; the 744 goes to ATL-NRT...
 
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Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:15 pm

Pretty amazing that they have over 1000 departures a day from ATL. I think that's just incredible.
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:54 pm

Quoting FSDan (Thread starter):
CVG
Quoting FSDan (Thread starter):
763: 1

Quite curious to know which destination the lone 763 goes to from CVG?
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:02 pm

Quoting Hawaiian763 (Reply 26):

Quite curious to know which destination the lone 763 goes to from CVG?

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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:40 pm

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AGS 8
BWI 6
BTR 2
BHM 9
CHS 5
CLT 8
CHA 8
ORD 7
CVG 7
CAE 7
CSG 6
CMH 3
DFW 9
DAY 6
DTW 4
FLL 6
IAH 6
IND 4
JAN 4
JAX 7
MCI 2
TYS 5
LAS 1
LEX 3
LAX 4
SDF 6
MCN 4
MEM 8
MEI 1
MIA 7
MLU 1
MGM 6
MSY 8
JFK 3
LGA 6
EWR 4
MCO 7
PHL 6
SAN 1
SFO 3
SAV 6
SHV 2
TPA 8
DCA 8
IAD 1
PBI 5
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:39 pm

Quoting FSDan (Reply 14):

Whoops, my bad. Thanks for catching that.



No problem. Thanks for making this thread!


Since I was interested in the # of flights and equipment at Seattle I compiled a list using the July 26, 2012 date:

SEA

319: 1
320: 3
738: 6
752: 12
753: 7
763: 6
333: 2

Total: 37

One interesting thing I noticed is that (at least on this date) the 767 is operating SEA-JFK in the morning.
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:08 am

Quoting JHCRJ700 (Reply 25):
Pretty amazing that they have over 1000 departures a day from ATL. I think that's just incredible.

totally agree. I love going through ATL, just to see all the plane traffic constantly landing and taking off. Even Chicago OHare seems to have its slower periods, but maybe its because of its runway layout. I love all the parallell landings and takeoffs from ATL.
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:25 am

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 19):
This is very outstanding work that I'm sure a lot of us will get enjoyment from - and learn something. This is why we look at A.net to enjoy this kind of thorough analysis like you have provided.

Thanks! If other people find it as interesting as I do, it makes it worth the time investment.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 19):
73W refers to 737-700s with winglets. Likewise, 737-800s with winglets are often designated as 73H, rather than 738. However, as I think you are noting, this is not always applied consistently. That is why DL calls their 737-700s as 73W, rather than 73G, because of the winglets. So, you'll see 73W or 73G sometimes interchangeably, and 738 and 73H the same. I'm not sure if there is a different designation for 739s with winglets.

Does this make sense?

Thanks for the clarification.

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 22):
Is it just me or did LAX grow in number of daily flights...

It's fairly similar to last summer, but the gauge is up in general (e.g. no more 50-seaters).

Quoting BDL757 (Reply 29):
One interesting thing I noticed is that (at least on this date) the 767 is operating SEA-JFK in the morning.

Yeah, JFK gets a few of those interesting repositioning flights each week. On the day I used to gather the data, PIT-JFK sees a 752 as well as there being a 767 on SEA-JFK. On most days the 767 does SEA-ATL instead.
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:55 am

Quoting FSDan (Reply 31):
It's fairly similar to last summer, but the gauge is up in general (e.g. no more 50-seaters).

I think its up like 3 flights compared to last year. I wish it was up 5 more flights like planned. (1x PHL 4x DEN)
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:18 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 32):

With the two class RJs needed for LGA I guess LAX-DEN was an easy one to kill of due to all the competition on the route. But if the new pilot contact passes the vote I can see LAX-DEN coming back. Hopefully the new 70 or so 70+ seaters should be sufficient enough to bring this flight back.
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:55 am

Quoting deltacto (Reply 27):
Quoting Hawaiian763 (Reply 26):

Quite curious to know which destination the lone 763 goes to from CVG?

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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:18 am

FSDan,

Thanks for pulling this together! Can I ask what data source you used? In the past to do similar analysis, I used FlightStats and copied the data for a particular airport/airline into Excel. This isn't ideal, though, because it takes about 18 copy/paste pulls (since FlightStats displays flights by hour), requires a bit of manual cleaning to get the data usable in Excel, and can only be used for yesterday, today, or tomorrow.

How did you do this for a forward-looking view?

In the past, most major airlines had a downloadable timetable that could search from a particular city to "all cities," but this is gone now. There are still downloadable timetables, but no "all destinations" options to see all departures from a particular city at once.

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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:53 pm

Quoting BizJet (Reply 35):
How did you do this for a forward-looking view?

In the past, most major airlines had a downloadable timetable that could search from a particular city to "all cities," but this is gone now. There are still downloadable timetables, but no "all destinations" options to see all departures from a particular city at once.

I went through the airlines' online timetables (desktop timetable for DL) city by city and hand tallied the numbers of aircraft. It's old-school and it sounds tedious, but I actually really enjoy it because it builds a great knowledge of the industry. After several years of doing stuff like this, I would say I have most major US-based airlines' route maps more or less memorized (not 100% though) and I have a good general idea of the frequencies and aircraft types used on each route. So I'm kind of a big nerd...
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:47 pm

Interesting, thanks.

Assuming you're searching city-by-city, how do you know the full set of destinations served from a hub?
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:51 pm

I know this does not fit the criteria above, but how many departures does ORD have? I heard/read somewhere not long ago that ORD is a pretty large non-hub station for DL.
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:10 pm

Very impressive work. I can you put a lot of time into this. When I was a kid I would spend hours going through the paper timetables.

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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:40 pm

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 38):
I know this does not fit the criteria above, but how many departures does ORD have?

Here's what I was able to gather for Chicago O'Hare:

ORD

D95: 7
752: 1
319: 4
M88: 1
CR9: 14
320: 1
M90: 5
E75: 17
CR7: 6
CR2: 3

Total: 59
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:43 pm

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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:02 pm

Quoting BDL757 (Reply 40):
Here's what I was able to gather for Chicago O'Hare:

ORD

D95: 7
752: 1
319: 4
M88: 1
CR9: 14
320: 1
M90: 5
E75: 17
CR7: 6
CR2: 3

Total: 59

Thank You! Does anyone know if ORD is DL's largest non-hub station?
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:05 pm

Quoting BDL757 (Reply 40):
ORD

D95: 7
752: 1
319: 4
M88: 1
CR9: 14
320: 1
M90: 5
E75: 17
CR7: 6
CR2: 3

Total: 59

Doesn't DL have a 763 flight to CDG from ORD?
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 43):
Doesn't DL have a 763 flight to CDG from ORD?

That is seasonal (November to March) as a replacement for AF.

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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:13 pm

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 43):
Doesn't DL have a 763 flight to CDG from ORD?


I thought that too but when I checked it looks like it only operates during the winter and goes back to AF in the summer.

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 42):
Thank You! Does anyone know if ORD is DL's largest non-hub station?

No problem!! I'm curious to know what the largest non hub station is as well. MCO or BOS maybe? I'm from CT and I remember when my home airport, BDL (even though I never got to work there), had 50 daily departures!!
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:15 pm

Quoting BDL757 (Reply 45):
I'm curious to know what the largest non hub station is as well. MCO or BOS maybe?

It just dawned on me ... maybe MKE?
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:04 pm

FSDan,

Thanks so much for the detailed lists. It's very interesting to see what's what.
 
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:54 am

Quoting BizJet (Reply 37):
Assuming you're searching city-by-city, how do you know the full set of destinations served from a hub?

Initially I used wikipedia, which worked pretty well because there tended to be more destinations listed for each airline than were actually served. Also, the route maps from airlines' websites are usually 90+% accurate, though they do sometimes have errors. When I'm going through the schedules I also tend to check routes that seem like they could be possible, just to make sure service hasn't been quietly added. Oh, and I rely a lot on a.net for route adds/discontinuations.

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 42):
Does anyone know if ORD is DL's largest non-hub station?

I believe BOS is the largest non-hub station, with 74 departures. ORD (59), RDU (58), DCA (53), and MCO (52) are also all above 50.
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RE: DL Summer 2012 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:58 am

These lists are always well-appreciated, FSDan!

I calculated Y-o-Y seat count changes at MSP and DTW, and my numbers showed a 1.6% drop at DTW and a 4.1% drop at MSP. Part of the cuts would be the change from DCI to ZK, but both would be down regardless. MSP has about 2,700 more seats departing per day.

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