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| Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 61): It's *supposed* to help QR and Boeing look good. Done right, it will make them look good and result in zero additional sales. Done wrong, it could tarnish the 787 for decades to come. |
| Quoting bikerthai (Reply 62): Ah, but there would be additional sales . . . in boarding tickets just not airplanes And in that part of the region, prestige can be paramount. |
| Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 100): Care to explain how it could result in zero additional sales? Makes no sense whatsoever! Boeing and other manufacturers demonstrate their wares to produce additional sales. That's business! |
| Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 102): Because airlines don't buy airliners based on any factors that you can demonstrate during an airshow display (not that this is generally not true of military aircraft, where demos make far more sense). I will thunk down any amount of money that absolutely nobody in a position to buy a 787 will ever change their mind based on seeing it fly at Farnborough. Tom. |
| Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 104): Then one would have to ask why Boeing would be a the airshow at all? |
| Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 104): All the relevant numbers for the economics could be sent over internet wires surely? |
| Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 102): I will thunk down any amount of money that absolutely nobody in a position to buy a 787 will ever change their mind based on seeing it fly at Farnborough. Tom. |
| Quoting frigatebird (Reply 107): Not even a sheik that doesn't know what to do with all the money he inherited? |
| Quoting Konradh767 (Reply 99): The proof that Boeing and FAA did away with Customer codes can be found in the Type Certification Data Sheets (TCDS). These are the documents which accompany the Type Certifcate for any FAA certified aircraft. 777: http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...6db0/$FILE/T00001SE%20Rev%2030.pdf Note how the model is listed with customer codes and associated eligible serial numbers for each certified airplane: 777-200 on page 2-3, 777-300 on page 5, 777-300ER page 8, 777-200LR page 11, 777F page 14 The same is true for all other Boeing models. You should see the 737's TCDS. 787: http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...81daf/$FILE/T00021SE%20Rev%202.pdf Note that despite having certified the ANA, JAL, and Air India dreamliners, only 787-8 is listed on the data sheet with no customer code, and all the elegible serial numbers are listed under 787-8 regardless of operator. Hope this finally clears it all up. -konrad |
| Quoting MD-90 (Reply 106): So who paid for the Jet-A for the demonstration, Boeing or Qatar? |
| Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 110): the chances that Qatar is picking up the bill are pretty slim. |
| Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 102): I will thunk down any amount of money that absolutely nobody in a position to buy a 787 will ever change their mind based on seeing it fly at Farnborough. |
| Quoting bikerthai (Reply 108): The PR guys at EK were probably drooling with envy. |
 Photo © Steve Brimley |  Photo © Steve Brimley |
| Quoting BMI727 (Reply 112): That's true. But Boeing shows TV commercials too, and we both know that those don't sell planes either. That's for the public, many of whom invest money in various businesses. |
| Quoting scbriml (Reply 113): biggest flying advertisement seven years ago at the Dubai Air Show: |
But that was "and eternity" ago . . .
| Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 114): Quoting BMI727 (Reply 112):That's true. But Boeing shows TV commercials too, and we both know that those don't sell planes either. That's for the public, many of whom invest money in various businesses.I think this is likely the case, I have seen adverts for the Boeing, embraer etc many times in flight international and I don't think anyone reading them is simply going to buy an aeroplane based on that advert. This flying display was like an advert in flight international.Fred |
planemannyc wrote:Crazy banking!
tdscanuck wrote:I will thunk down any amount of money that absolutely nobody in a position to buy a 787 will ever change their mind based on seeing it fly at Farnborough.
