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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:41 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 149):
It seems to me too much offer for this moment.
Would be better if they deploy the 772 on JFK-GIG, and run MIA-GIG daily to make DFW-GIG daily.

While I read that DFW-GIG is going daily for peak season, I have not seen it for sale anywhere. Also AA Brazil said the market will have 108 frequencies. I counted 102, plus 4 x extra DFW-GIG that would be 106. What they said has not added up so far.

Didn't AA run JFK-GIG 777 last year? I would think they have good basis for not bringing it back.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 149):
AA seems lost with so many increases... i can't see that additional demand.

For January the Brazil-US market can absorb whatever capacity is thrown in. I heard the wait time for a visa at the Rio Consulate is now 1-2 days so a lot less advance planning is needed, which expands the market.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:11 pm

Quoting incitatus (Reply 150):

While I read that DFW-GIG is going daily for peak season, I have not seen it for sale anywhere. Also AA Brazil said the market will have 108 frequencies. I counted 102, plus 4 x extra DFW-GIG that would be 106. What they said has not added up so far.

Didn't AA run JFK-GIG 777 last year? I would think they have good basis for not bringing it back.

What i heard is that due to the fact they are launching (doubt if they will confirm this year-round...performance looks terrible) the daylight JFK-GRU, they schedule the arrival with the late night GRU-MIA nowadays operated with B763. Of course they needed an extra pair of 772 for this.
Plus, another 772 will be deployed on a 3x weekly DFW-GRU during January.

Between us, it is hard to believe that 3 772 on MIA-GRU makes more sense on an economic point of view compared to offer F on a new market. I just think there's too much F offer to Sao Paulo right now by AA: 2 JFK, 3 MIA (4 on weekends) 1 or 2 DFW... it means a daily offer of at least 90 seats (up to 120).
Result is ... easy way to burn miles on a 62.500 miles frequent flyer ticket. That's good for passengers... but not to the airline as it seems they went far above the elasticity of demand.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:51 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 151):
Between us, it is hard to believe that 3 772 on MIA-GRU makes more sense on an economic point of view compared to offer F on a new market.

At first I agree with that, but without knowing actual results I cannot be confident that it would be better to place the 777 into GIG.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 151):

What i heard is that due to the fact they are launching (doubt if they will confirm this year-round...performance looks terrible) the daylight JFK-GRU,

The 77W is coming to the overnight JFK-GRU. I can't wait to try it. It will be another 60 seats. I agree, that could take the daylight down, but over holidays and vacation periods it will all book up. I think the pattern of US-Brazil travel has shifted somewhat. Carnival for example is becoming a big outbound travel period with Brazilians taking a short vacation instead of staying in a country where every business is closed.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:31 am

Airbus excel sheet shows CRUZEIRO DO SUL operated 2 Airbus 300.

I've gone to the site pictures and have found nothing.

Can someone enlight me which they were or post pictures?

Thanks

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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:44 pm

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 153):
Airbus excel sheet shows CRUZEIRO DO SUL operated 2 Airbus 300.

I've gone to the site pictures and have found nothing.

Can someone enlight me which they were or post pictures?

SC operated two A300B4's: PP-CLA/B. They were both transferred to RG after both airlines merged.

There are pictures of them at Airliners:


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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:51 pm

Apparently, Condor will keep their new FRA-GIG service after 12/13 winter season. The flight is already bookable into 13 summer season.

DE's operations in Brazil will be:

Rio de Janeiro

DE1080 FRA1000 – 1720GIG 767 1
DE6080 FRA1000 – 1720GIG 767 6

DE1081 GIG2040 – 1335+1FRA 767 1
DE6081 GIG2040 – 1335+1FRA 767 6


Recife (frequencies will go from 1x weekly to 2x EFF02JUL13)

DE5074 FRA0905 – 1415REC 767 5
DE2074 FRA1010 – 1525REC 767 2

DE5075 REC1820 – 0920+1FRA 767 5
DE2075 REC1930 – 1030+1FRA 767 2


Salvador (DE will reduce from 2x weekly to 1x weekly)

DE7076 FRA0925 – 1515SSA 767 7
DE7077 SSA1725 – 0900+1FRA 767 7
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:47 am

The deadline set by the TDLC for LATAM to release slots at GRU for new carriers to launch services on the SCL-GRU route has expired with no carriers showing any interest in launching services on the SCL-GRU route. Thus, the process will repeat itself for the next IATA season.
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On 29OCT12, LAN will increase frequency on the SCL-GRU route to 6x daily. Therefore, LATAM will operate the SCL-GRU route 8x daily.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:10 am

Quoting AF086 (Reply 154):

Wow, very nice, thanks for the plugs!

I liked the 2nd one livery a lot!

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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:21 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 130):
So we will have as expected 2 more daily service to MVD by Latam
3rd GRU-MVD
And first GIG-MVD

LATAM will soon begin to increase flights into MVD with three new daily flights; thus LATAM will operate seven daily flights into MVD. On 25OCT12, TAM will increase frequency on the GRU-MVD route to 3x daily (A32A).
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:59 pm

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 153):
Airbus excel sheet shows CRUZEIRO DO SUL operated 2 Airbus 300.

The original order was for four aircraft. After receiving two frames painted as Cruzeiro, Varig decided to get the other two painted as Varig so that they could freely operate RG's routes into Miami.

I had the pleasure of seeing the Cruzeiro Airbus at Congonhas and it was quite a sight in the modest dimension of the patio. It dwarfed everything around it.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:20 pm

American put out GIG-DFW daily for high season with a slightly different departure time out GIG.

It also rounded up GRU-MIA to four daily - previously it was 26 times a week. And DFW-GRU is going to 10 times a week.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:55 am

Quoting incitatus (Reply 160):
American put out GIG-DFW daily for high season with a slightly different departure time out GIG.

It also rounded up GRU-MIA to four daily - previously it was 26 times a week. And DFW-GRU is going to 10 times a week.

I was expecting and heard about GRU-MIA 3x daily + additional weekend flights. I believe it is too much to have both GRU-JFK and GRU-MIA daylights , every day !
GIG and GRU-DFW additional flights are expected to be operated only during December and January, AFAIK.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:47 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 161):
I believe it is too much to have both GRU-JFK and GRU-MIA daylights , every day !

That is what TAM has year-around. Though with the upgrade to 77W, they are keeping the daylights with A330.

The daylight flights don't need to have the same sort of yield as the overnight ones. It is much more an excercise of marginal cost vs. marginal revenue than full cost.

In the mid-90s I used to fly NY-LHR a lot and the route fell below the 8-hour limit my company authorized business class travel. As we all flew coach, the morning departures out of JFK were very popular in my office. Because of this, I have the feeling that daylights tend to have good quality coach revenue - business travel limited to coach will prefer daylights.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 161):
GIG and GRU-DFW additional flights are expected to be operated only during December and January, AFAIK

Correct. And MIA-GRU goes back to 26 x week.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:27 pm

Quoting incitatus (Reply 162):
That is what TAM has year-around. Though with the upgrade to 77W, they are keeping the daylights with A330.

But Incitatus, TAM does that with a clear hub structure and focusing O&D New York. That's easy. Their flights in the morning got passengers from Belo Horizonte, Rio de Janeiro, Porto Alegre...
AA will not be able to do it with a 7:40 AM departure. That's just São Paulo O&D and during week days, due to traffic, you need to leave your home by 5-5:30 AM.


Quoting incitatus (Reply 162):
The daylight flights don't need to have the same sort of yield as the overnight ones. It is much more an excercise of marginal cost vs. marginal revenue than full cost.

I would agree with you if AA faces normal times. But nowadays, giving the shortage of crew (and sometimes equipment), flying a low yield flight is far from being smart. It is a waste of valuable resources (labor).

Quoting incitatus (Reply 162):
Correct. And MIA-GRU goes back to 26 x week.

26x or 21x weekly ? I believe regular MIA-GRU is 3x daily
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:46 pm

Hi,

Sorry for the rather silly (only tangentially related to aviation) question, but I figured the Brazilian Aviation thread was the best place to ask:

What is the correct way to pronounce "Congonhas" and "Guarulhos" using Brazilian Portuguese?

Spanish is easy for me, but Portuguese pronunciation has always mystified me.

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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:59 pm

Quoting B2468 (Reply 164):
What is the correct way to pronounce "Congonhas" and "Guarulhos" using Brazilian Portuguese?

You should check out these videos:

Congonhas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75mBFhDm1ec#t=00m07s

Guarulhos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qz0ZlIb73M#t=00m03s
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:14 pm

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 165):

Thanks for the links! However, I only have dial-up internet, so watching anything on YouTube is out of the question.

/luddite.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:49 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 163):
AA will not be able to do it with a 7:40 AM departure. That's just São Paulo O&D and during week days, due to traffic, you need to leave your home by 5-5:30 AM.

The AA schedule seems to be anchored in JFK because as we cycle through daylight savings changes, the arrival time in JFK stays around 4:40 pm. The GRU departure time is the one that moves to a later time. JJ does the opposite, so it seems AA is not so interested in feeding the flight in GRU.

Besides domestic connections GRU-JFK daylight is going to connect to JFK-HND. And the return HND-GRU also flows nicely through JFK.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:47 pm

Quoting B2468 (Reply 164):
Quoting B2468 (Reply 164):
Sorry for the rather silly (only tangentially related to aviation) question, but I figured the Brazilian Aviation thread was the best place to ask:

What is the correct way to pronounce "Congonhas" and "Guarulhos" using Brazilian Portuguese?

Cong-gon-yas
Gwa-rule-yos
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:38 pm

Quoting Reply 168):

Got it...thanks!
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:23 pm

JJ requested their first GIG-SCL services:

EFF 25NOV11

JJ8048 GIG 1508 1858 SCL A320- DAILY
JJ8049 SCL 0715 1223 GIG A320- DAILY

With this new flight, GIG-SCL services will be, from JAN13:

JJ8049 SCL 0715 1223 GIG - 320 - DAILY
LA0772 SCL 1235 1745 GIG - 320 - DAILY
LA0784 SCL 1525 2040 GIG - 319 - DAILY
LA0792 SCL 1550 2100 GIG - 763 - DAILY


LA0793 GIG 0915 1340 SCL - 763 - DAILY
JJ8048 GIG 1508 1858 SCL - 320 - DAILY
LA0773 GIG 1815 2205 SCL - 320 - DAILY
LA0785 GIG 2125 0105 SCL - 319 - DAILY

Perhaps LA will reschedula LA784/5 due to its SCL-GIG being too close to LA's own service that will be introduced this january (LA792).
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:43 pm

On 15NOV12, TAM will launch GIG-MVD daily:
JJ8038 GIG 07:44 MVD 10:50 Daily A-32A
JJ8039 MVD 18:30 GIG 21:07 Daily A-32A

Quoting AF086 (Reply 170):
JJ requested their first GIG-SCL services:

That's great news!

Quoting AF086 (Reply 170):
Perhaps LA will reschedula LA784/5 due to its SCL-GIG being too close to LA's own service that will be introduced this january (LA792).

Most likely LAN will reschedule LA784/LA785 and operate LA772/LA773 and LA784/LA785 with the A-319s. Also, JJ hasn't loaded its GIG-LIM service as yet. Perhaps LAN Perú will launch the route. LAN just revealed that it will significantly increase flights at LIM next year and will transfer more B-767-316ERs and A-319s over to LAN Perú.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:34 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 171):
Also, JJ hasn't loaded its GIG-LIM service as yet. Perhaps LAN Perú will launch the route.

Yeah, I'd noticed that like 2 weeks ago. IMO, LP should operate the route with the 767 in order to offer a consistent product for passengers flying GIG-LAX/MEX/SFO via LIM.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:57 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 142):
TA will reduce once again LIM-GRU to 10x weekly for the upcoming IATA winter season

TA will further decrease frequency on the LIM-GRU route to 7x weekly (A-320) in January. LAN Perú plans to add another daily service on the LIM-GRU route next March.

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 172):
Yeah, I'd noticed that like 2 weeks ago. IMO, LP should operate the route with the 767 in order to offer a consistent product for passengers flying GIG-LAX/MEX/SFO via LIM.

LAN Perú could eventually operate the route alongside TAM. However, TAM is transferring 5 A320s from its domestic operations to operate regional routes.

TAM Airlines:
GIG-MVD+7
GIG-SCL+7
GIG-LIM (7 weekly frequencies allocated to TAM)
GRU-MVD+7
TAM also has 7 additional weekly frequencies allocated for a service between Brasil and Chile. TAM may also launch GRU-VVI. It's highly likely that TAM Paraguay will increase operations by launching routes, i.e. ASU-LIM, ASU-LPB, ASU-MVD, etc.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:02 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 173):
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 142):
TA will reduce once again LIM-GRU to 10x weekly for the upcoming IATA winter season

TA will further decrease frequency on the LIM-GRU route to 7x weekly (A-320) in January. LAN Perú plans to add another daily service on the LIM-GRU route next March.

And what are TA's plans for the LIM-GRU route starting March? That's when the summer schedules start and most airlines start increasing their frequencies again.

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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:30 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 174):
And what are TA's plans for the LIM-GRU route starting March?

Perhaps someone on the Colombian aviation thread can answer that question, (TA is also reducing frequencies on other regional routes via LIM during January as well).

Quoting A388 (Reply 174):
That's when the summer schedules start and most airlines start increasing their frequencies again.

Not necessarily, LAN increases frequencies on various routes throughout the year. For example on 10SEP12, LAN Colombia increased frequency on the BOG-GRU route from 2x weekly to a daily service.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:05 am

Apparently KL will increase their GIG services from 4 to 5 weekly:

EFF 31MAR13

KL705 - AMS 1115 1755 GIG - 772 - xWeFr
KL706 - GIG 2005 1220 AMS - 772 - xWeFr

This route is growing steadily. KL launched it at W11/12, is increasing to 4x weekly W12/13 and, apparently, will boost the frequencies again at S13.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:12 pm

Tomorrow, TAM will further increase capacity on the GRU-MIA route and will operate GRU-MIA 2x daily with the B77Ws!
TAM's newest B77Ws PT-MUE and PT-MUF:

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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:12 am

Quoting AF086 (Reply 155):
Apparently, Condor will keep their new FRA-GIG service after 12/13 winter season. The flight is already bookable into 13 summer season.

DE's operations in Brazil will be:

Rio de Janeiro

DE1080 FRA1000 – 1720GIG 767 1
DE6080 FRA1000 – 1720GIG 767 6

DE1081 GIG2040 – 1335+1FRA 767 1
DE6081 GIG2040 – 1335+1FRA 767 6


Recife (frequencies will go from 1x weekly to 2x EFF02JUL13)

DE5074 FRA0905 – 1415REC 767 5
DE2074 FRA1010 – 1525REC 767 2

DE5075 REC1820 – 0920+1FRA 767 5
DE2075 REC1930 – 1030+1FRA 767 2


Salvador (DE will reduce from 2x weekly to 1x weekly)

DE7076 FRA0925 – 1515SSA 767 7
DE7077 SSA1725 – 0900+1FRA 767 7

As far as I know, DE FRA-MAO even manages charter services in such route.
Will this service be available in 2013?




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Quoting SCL767 (Reply 173):
TA will further decrease frequency on the LIM-GRU route to 7x weekly (A-320) in January

We have now to consider both LIM and BOG as the departing stations to Sao Paulo regarding the coming AV/TA status.

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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:35 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 178):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 173):
TA will further decrease frequency on the LIM-GRU route to 7x weekly (A-320) in January

We have now to consider both LIM and BOG as the departing stations to Sao Paulo regarding the coming AV/TA status.

Are you sure it is not due to TA's less than stellar LFs on the route? No doubt that TA's reduction in frequencies into LATAM's hubs from LIM will benefit AV-TA's operations at their BOG hub. It's interesting to note that TA is also decreasing frequency on the LIM-SCL route to 7x weekly as well, (the LIM-SCL route is the fastest growing route between both countries). However, LATAM will benefit from TA's decrease in frequencies and will increase frequency and capacity on these routes. Oh and LAN is boosting domestic flights too...
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:48 am

Quoting AF086 (Reply 176):
Apparently KL will increase their GIG services from 4 to 5 weekly:

EFF 31MAR13

KL705 - AMS 1115 1755 GIG - 772 - xWeFr
KL706 - GIG 2005 1220 AMS - 772 - xWeFr

This route is growing steadily. KL launched it at W11/12, is increasing to 4x weekly W12/13 and, apparently, will boost the frequencies again at S13.

In the first weeks of operation it was said that EZE was a best performer station than GIG. It seems now that GIG continues moving up going now 5x weekly while EZE will remain 3x weekly. And next summer, we will have in Rio the first major sport event: The FIFA Confederations Cup.

Lets see what June reserves to Rio.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 179):
Are you sure it is not due to TA's less than stellar LFs on the route? No doubt that TA's reduction in frequencies into LATAM's hubs from LIM will benefit AV-TA's operations at their BOG hub. It's interesting to note that TA is also decreasing frequency on the LIM-SCL route to 7x weekly as well

Very strange. Sao Paulo is losing now 11x weekly flights from Lima.
And there are rumors about LP about to announce plans for LIM-GIG-MAD.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 178):
As far as I know, DE FRA-MAO even manages charter services in such route.
Will this service be available in 2013?

So far FRA-REC 2x weekly + FRA-GIG 2x weekly + FRA-SSA 1x weekly.
May be in 2014 considering MAO is a World Cup Host City.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:00 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 180):
Very strange. Sao Paulo is losing now 11x weekly flights from Lima.

TAM is increasing capacity on the GRU-LIM route this month with the A332. LAN will increase frequency on the LIM-GRU route next March. LA is increasing frequency on the SCL-GRU route to 6x daily later this month; thus LA/JJ will operate the route 8x daily.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 180):
And there are rumors about LP about to announce plans for LIM-GIG-MAD.

Most likely LA may operate that route; similar to LA operating SCL-GIG-MIA with the B763. Initially, LAN is keen on opening new non-stop routes to Europe from both SCL and LIM with the 787s next year.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:54 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 180):
And there are rumors about LP about to announce plans for LIM-GIG-MAD.

LAN's fleet plans remain very flexible; thanks to the new B-767-316ERs continuously joining the fleet. LAN Perú initially planned to launch LIM-GIG 4x weekly with the B763. Perhaps LAN will eventually launch this route alongside TAM in order to increase competition with TA. While AV will base A332s at LIM soon, LAN has already begun to transfer new B-767-316ERs to LAN Perú. Also, LAN will deploy the A343s on the SCL-LIM-LAX route starting in April 2013; which will free up 2 more B-767-316ERs. However, LAN will continue to operate the LIM-MAD route non-stop. Next year, five B-787s will be deployed on routes to Europe. Is LAN interested in dropping the daily tag-on to FRA; we'll have to wait and see...IMO, LIM-FRA, LIM-LHR, SCL-FRA, and SCL-LHR are appealing 787 routes. LAN already has slots at FRA; and LAN views FRA as a very important destination...
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:23 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 180):
there are rumors about LP about to announce plans for LIM-GIG-MAD

Really ? I haven't honestly heard any of that. If anything, LP was supposed to increase its flight frequency on the Lima-Madrid route with more non-stop flights.


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Quoting SCL767 (Reply 181):
TAM is increasing capacity on the GRU-LIM route this month with the A332. LAN will increase frequency on the LIM-GRU route next March. LA is increasing frequency on the SCL-GRU route to 6x daily later this month; thus LA/JJ will operate the route 8x daily.

Hopefully, LP will introduce a second daily service on the Lima-São Paulo route with the Boeing 767.


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Quoting SCL767 (Reply 182):
LAN Perú initially planned to launch LIM-GIG 4x weekly with the B763.

..which brings up the question: will LATAM launch Lima-Rio flights someday ?
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:20 am

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 183):
If anything, LP was supposed to increase its flight frequency on the Lima-Madrid route with more non-stop flights.

LAN Perú can increase frequency on the LIM-MAD route anytime the airline wants too. Currently, LAN Perú is primarily focused on reinforcing frequencies to the U.S. For example, LIM-LAX now operates 13x weekly; and in three weeks, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-MIA route to 17x weekly and will launch LIM-JFK 4x weekly, (offering 11 weekly non-stop flights between LIM and JFK). That's 10 new weekly frequencies to the U.S., (LAN will then offer 45 weekly non-stop flights between LIM and the U.S.).

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 183):


Quoting SCL767 (Reply 182):
LAN Perú initially planned to launch LIM-GIG 4x weekly with the B763.

..which brings up the question: will LATAM launch Lima-Rio flights someday ?

TAM did apply with the ANAC for the route and LATAM is focused on increasing regional and long-haul flights from GIG; i.e. GIG-LIM, GIG-MCO, GIG-MVD, GIG-SCL, etc. TAM simply hasn't loaded the GIG-LIM flights as yet. However, LIM will soon get another daily flight to both LPB/VVI and to SCL. LATAM certainly is increasing its international market-share in the Peruvian market.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:47 pm

EK will downgauge DXB-GIG-EZE to 77L by December. No difference in F/J seats, but less cargo and Y seats. Seems EZE is not performing as expected and nowadays the majority of traffic comes from/to Rio de Janeiro.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 182):
LAN's fleet plans remain very flexible; thanks to the new B-767-316ERs continuously joining the fleet. LAN Perú initially planned to launch LIM-GIG 4x weekly with the B763

For your info, JJ removed their request for GIG-LIM service. I don't know yet why but i believe it is in favor of a daily LA/LP flight.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 184):
TAM did apply with the ANAC for the route and LATAM is focused on increasing regional and long-haul flights from GIG; i.e. GIG-LIM, GIG-MCO, GIG-MVD, GIG-SCL, etc. TAM simply hasn't loaded the GIG-LIM flights as yet.

This is part of Latam plans to build up GIG as a hub. There are plans for a GIG-ASU in 2013 and i would not rule out a GIG-BOG. I see Latam very focused to link GIG with their main markets.
As i said above, GIG-LIM request was removed from ANAC.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:34 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 185):
For your info, JJ removed their request for GIG-LIM service. I don't know yet why but i believe it is in favor of a daily LA/LP flight.

Then perhaps LAN Perú will apply with the ANAC to operate LIM-GIG. Also, LAN Perú might apply for CUZ-IGU 3x weekly as part of its South American tourist circuit.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 185):
There are plans for a GIG-ASU in 2013 and i would not rule out a GIG-BOG. I see Latam very focused to link GIG with their main markets.
As i said above, GIG-LIM request was removed from ANAC.

It's has been mentioned that TAM Paraguay will also launch ASU-LIM and ASU-MVD next year. LATAM is also very focused on developing BOG. IMO, BOG-GIG will not happen until LAN Colombia launches short-haul routes via BOG, i.e. BOG-AUA, BOG-CCS, BOG-CUR, BOG-MAR, BOG-PTY, BOG-SJO, BOG-VLN, and eventually BOG-YYZ, etc. LAN is taking on a lot of new A320 family a/c next year and is focused on increasing domestic flights via BOG, phasing out the B73Gs, and raising the service standards of LAN Colombia before it becomes a oneworld affiliate carrier. LAN Colombia plans on deploying the B763 on the BOG-GRU route early next year and will launch BOG-JFK, BOG-LAX and BOG-MAD during the next few months. TAM is the one that will have to launch new routes into and via BOG from Brazil due to various bilateral treaties between Colombia, Brazil and certain other countries.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:22 pm

Avianca Brasil have launched their 23rd destination in Brazil, Maceió, with flights from GIG, SSA (continues to GRU) and BSB:

http://www.brasilturis.com.br/notici...noticia=maceio-agora-com-a-avianca

The company is expecting 3 more aircraft this year (2 A320s and one A318) on top of the 5 already delivered.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:23 pm

Both Lufthansa and Air France are making the first rumblings that the A380 will be deployed to GRU.

Lufthansa is saying it will start with the 747-8.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:15 pm

On 19NOV12, TAM will launch B77W service on the GRU-JFK route 4x weekly initially; which increases to 9x weekly on 17DEC12:
JJ8080 GRU 22:25 JFK 05:25+1 B77W (Mo, We, Fr, Su) increases to daily service on 17DEC
JJ8081 JFK 17:40 GRU 06:35+1 B77W (Mo, Tu, Th, Sa) increases to daily service on 17DEC

JJ8082 GRU 08:45 JFK 15:20 B77W (Tu, Fr)
JJ8083 JFK 08:10 GRU 20:40 B77W (Tu, Fr)
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:55 am

The Ecuadorian carrier TAME is interested in launching a direct service between UIO and GRU via LIM utilizing the A-319.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:09 pm

Brazilian press states that Aeromaxico announced that they'll serve GIG 3x weekly with the 767 from May 2013:


Quote:
O Rio de Janeiro ganhará voos diretos para o México no próximo ano. Programados para maio, os voos da Aeromexico entre o Rio de Janeiro e a Cidade do México serão operados três vezes por semana. "Tínhamos a expectativa de que essa nova rota pudesse ser criada ainda neste ano, mas ela vai mesmo acontecer em 2013", diz a gerente comercial da Aeromexico, Bruna de Freitas.
(...)
Os voos do Rio serão operados com o Boeing 767.


In english:


Quote:
Rio de Janeiro will get direct flights to Mexico next year. Scheduled for May, Aeromexico's flights between Rio de Janeiro and Mexico City will be flown three times a week. "We expected this new route to be created this year, but it will be launched at 2013", said Aeromexico's commercial manager Bruna de Freitas.

(...)
Rio's flights will be operated by the Boeing 767.[/quote]


http://www.panrotas.com.br/noticia-t...eto-para-mexico-em-maio_82622.html


Will AM finally launch MEX-GIG services?
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:23 pm

Guys,

This is a great video, of a full to - Leite Lopes (RAO / SBRP), Brazil">RAO-CGH flight, in a JJ´s A320 cockpit.

AWSOME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQlnCY2F-8&feature=relmfu

Enjoy!

JMBarros12

[Edited 2012-10-29 05:32:14]
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:56 pm

Today, TAM launches its third daily flight into MCO! JJ8114 GIG-MCO:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/TAM8114

Also, starting today TAM will increase capacity on the GRU-LIM route by deploying the A332 on the route daily!
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:48 pm

Full of news these days...

First US A332 on CLT-GIG this weekend

First redeye FRA-GIG by LH

First GIG-MCO today

First A332 on GRU-LIM

AA performed JFK-MIA-GIG yesterday (probably chaning planes in MIA). 8 hours delayed
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:13 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 194):

Plus today LAN has increased frequency on the SCL-GRU route to 6x daily. Thus, LA/JJ now operate the SCL-GRU route 8x daily offering more connectivity via GRU.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:56 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 195):

Plus today LAN has increased frequency on the SCL-GRU route to 6x daily. Thus, LA/JJ now operate the SCL-GRU route 8x daily offering more connectivity via GRU.

Be prepared... TAM expects to run GRU-SCL 3x daily.

Eff. Jan 02, 2013

JJ8072 GRU 1630 SCL 2050 A32A Daily
JJ8073 SCL 2055 GRU 0100 A32A Daily
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:11 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 196):
Be prepared... TAM expects to run GRU-SCL 3x daily.

LA/JJ operating SCL-GRU 9x daily really is not surprising since more pax are connecting onto JJ operated flights via GRU. Traffic on the route is growing; especially since the combination between LAN and TAM concluded.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:27 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 197):
LA/JJ operating SCL-GRU 9x daily really is not surprising since more pax are connecting onto JJ operated flights via GRU. Traffic on the route is growing; especially since the combination between LAN and TAM concluded.

I wonder if this will have a negative effect on LAN's SCL-MAD.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 14

Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:37 pm

Quoting incitatus (Reply 198):
I wonder if this will have a negative effect on LAN's SCL-MAD.

Why? The SCL-MAD-FRA flight tends to have high LFs as traffic between SCL and Europe increases.

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