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Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:14 am

Quoting phxa340 (Reply 198):
Fair enough , but how else would US get passengers to Hawaii without the PHX flight ? If they want a presence in that market ...they need these flights. You could be absolutely right , all I am saying is that unless these flights are extremely profitable for US , there is no reason US can't combine Hawaii Ops with AA's out of LAX. Like I mentioned before sometimes these flights appear to be profitable , other times , its pretty bad.

Well they could set up a code share with HA's HNL-PHX flight like HP did from 2002 to 2005 before they started their non-stop service, and they could funnel the rest onto partner airlines at LAX, that's if US discontinued their own flights. If they merge with AA a lot of the Hawaii services would likely move out to LAX, however there is sufficient demand for US or a merged US/AA to at least maintain service to HNL. Presence in a market is all well and good but if it's a market that isn't performing, then is it still important to continue to serve the market just because? if it wasn't breaking even for US or even HA then the service wouldn't exist, but they continue to run many flights per day year round. If US was the only player in the PHX-Hawaii market and only ran say one daily flight to HNL then it would be simple to move the service to LAX in a merger, however the market supports much more service then that. Ultimately I feel US and HA wouldn't fly PHX-HNL if there wasn't money to be made on the service.
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:53 am

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 200):
Presence in a market is all well and good but if it's a market that isn't performing, then is it still important to continue to serve the market just because?

Thats all fine but only ~35% of US' Hawaii customers are coming from AZ , the rest are connecting. So they could connect 65% of their passengers through LAX and keep 1 HNL flight from PHX.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:09 am

Quoting phxa340 (Reply 196):
I think its great your a PHX loyalist however you need to let reality set in IF this merger happens.

Well when it comes to debates whether to keep an airline in an airport or not, you gotta present the good points. 
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:34 pm

Well, Luke got the F-35..... Guess I am going to be visiting my parents in Goodyear a lot more.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:52 pm

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 203):
Well, Luke got the F-35..... Guess I am going to be visiting my parents in Goodyear a lot more.

I know people that live around Luke will not be fans but that is what happens when you live near an airport or military base.

But this is great news for Luke though!
 
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:14 am

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 204):
I know people that live around Luke will not be fans but that is what happens when you live near an airport or military base.

But this is great news for Luke though!

I agree that it is great for Luke as well as the surrounding area. $100 million in economic support and boost as they need to upgrade for 100 F-35's

Yeah, but I lived with my parents after graduating and you get used to the sound. And if you don't, move as Luke has been there since 1940. The funny thing was that I would not look up at a F-16, but if there was a different plane coming in I would look up.
 
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:07 am

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 204):
I know people that live around Luke will not be fans

Most of the NIMBYs south of the base have moved either farther west or lost their homes to foreclosure. Sun City is to the north, and as it's a retirement community most residents are extremely pro-military and don't mind the noise.

Goodyear and Avondale also did a good job of buying up strips of land and zoning them so they can't be developed, giving LUF a nice, if narrow, clear flight path to the SW.
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:25 am

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 206):
Goodyear and Avondale also did a good job of buying up strips of land and zoning them so they can't be developed, giving LUF a nice, if narrow, clear flight path to the SW.

I wouldn't mind living under the flight path of an F35 at all      
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Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:55 am

Living in Chandler we never see F-16s from Luke so I don’t expect to see the new F-35 anytime soon. I do however get to see numerous F-18s and AV-8Bs flying into IWA.   
 
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Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:25 pm

Quoting mach2is2slowaz (Reply 209):
Living in Chandler we never see F-16s from Luke so I don’t expect to see the new F-35 anytime soon. I do however get to see numerous F-18s and AV-8Bs flying into IWA.

I would not say never as there are a few times that there are F-16s flying into and out of Chandler. We also see a lot of UH-60's, CH-53 and UH-47's, T-38's, C-17's, AH-64's and AH-1W
 
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:20 am

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 210):
I would not say never as there are a few times that there are F-16s flying into and out of Chandler. We also see a lot of UH-60's, CH-53 and UH-47's, T-38's, C-17's, AH-64's and AH-1W

  

That is true; just a few days ago a C-17 flew over my house at 2500 feet. (Cooper and Queen Creek) Heard them talking to Chandler tower requesting to transit Charlie airspace on a 45 degree entry and right down wind to runway 12 Gateway.
 
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:56 pm

I have a question that I someone may know. With Luke getting the F-35 are they still going to keep the TW for the Singapore Air Force (56thOG/425th FS)? I know they are training in the F-16's right now at Luke or will that TW be transferred to a different base?
 
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:29 pm

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/J...0/history/20120803/0900Z/KPHX/KFLL

looks like a B6 flight diverted to PHX because of an ill captain. Interesting diversion point, especially when it mentioned that a replacement airplane took over the flight.
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:43 am

This just hit me today, last summer the airport had a display about the history of the airport and showed pictures of T3 when it first opened in the late 70s. Now when walking through hallways and driving over on the south end I can tell it has changed alot and see bits and pieces of airlines past.. But besides those pictures in the display and this one I found doing a google search, I was just curious what T3 was like in the 70s,80s,and early 90s. Thought some of our PHX veterans could give me some insight..
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:12 am

Does anyone know how NK is doing in both AZA-LAS/ DFW? outside of ORD that was recently announced are other routes possible DEN? LAX? FLL? What are your thoughts
 
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:39 am

Quoting BA744PHX (Reply 215):
Does anyone know how NK is doing in both AZA-LAS/ DFW?

When I check the DOT a few months ago, the flights were seemingly 65-70% full. LAX would probably do well, hopefully they get better hours on the departure!
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:08 pm

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 214):
This just hit me today, last summer the airport had a display about the history of the airport and showed pictures of T3 when it first opened in the late 70s. Now when walking through hallways and driving over on the south end I can tell it has changed alot and see bits and pieces of airlines past.. But besides those pictures in the display and this one I found doing a google search, I was just curious what T3 was like in the 70s,80s,and early 90s. Thought some of our PHX veterans could give me some insight..

Well, I can remember the 80's and 90's but the 70's is a little too distant for me. Take T-4 and move it to T-3. Just looking at KPHX you can see the development of the city from a little dusty desert town to the 5th biggest city in the nation. When they completed T-4 it took so much pressure off of T-3 and made it feel like it was deserted. I remember driving on Sky Harbor Blvd when T-3 was new and thinking it was so cool that you could see the tails of the DL planes from the road.

On a side note, I also remember when they put the the replica of Frank Luke's SPAD XIII in there. That was one of the coolest thing I remembered before getting onto a plane and flying out of KPHX to KLAX on AA.

It seems that I am all too often in T-4 with the only time going to T-3 is getting on or off of HA's flights. T-3 seems to have more "soul" to it and T-4 is more utilitarian in its design.

Another cool thing that I remembered was when T-1 was demoed they had installed a walkway, but they left huge sections open and you could see planes from T-2 getting ready as well as the parking and end of the runway 7L
 
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:46 pm

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 200):
Presence in a market is all well and good but if it's a market that isn't performing, then is it still important to continue to serve the market just because?

Average fares from PHX to HNL are 530 with a load factor of 88%. HA has more marketshare than US. 39% of PHX passengers choose to connect while the rest take the nonstop. At 530 a r/t ticket , US could easily funnel these passengers via LAX if they merged with AA. The long stage length of this flight make it very expensive to operate.
 
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:35 pm

Quoting aztrainer (Reply 217):
Another cool thing that I remembered was when T-1 was demoed they had installed a walkway, but they left huge sections open and you could see planes from T-2 getting ready as well as the parking and end of the runway 7L

That walkway is still there. I used it last Thursday, in fact. I like being outside, but I hate the sell job I get when I walk past the limos at T2. They all come running up to me and offer to take me "anywhere" for "good price." One of these days I'm going to ask to be taken to T3. Eventually that'll all end as the new walkway is going up now.

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 214):
Now when walking through hallways and driving over on the south end I can tell it has changed alot and see bits and pieces of airlines past..

What's left over from the old airlines? I know some stop lines on the DL side still show DC-10 and 727, but that's all I can see. I really do enjoy T3. The DL side has a bizarre security layout, but they move people through fairly well.

By the way, what airline's counter is on the left side of that photo?
 
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:57 pm

Quoting chrisair (Reply 219):
By the way, what airline's counter is on the left side of that photo?

Western Airlines - They merged with Delta on Sept 8th 1986. I was a shuttle bus driver in Albuquerque at the time and both Western and Delta flight crews layed over at the Regent Hotel. The Western Crews refused to ride with the Delta Crews and from the conversations that I overhead Both Western Pilots and Flight attendants were not happy with the merger and both felt they got the short end of the stick. One day I picked but both crews becuase our second shuttle had overheated at the terminal pick up aeria. The two captains one Delta and one Western got into a heated argument that I thought was about to turn to blows. I was only 17 at the time and pulled over on I-25 and stopped the van and told them that I would call the police if they didnt calm down. They both appologiezed and when we arrived at the hotel I got the bigest tip ever from an airline pilot! Usually they gave me $0.50 cents per crew member but the Western Pilot gave me $20 bucks and thanked me!

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Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:34 pm

Quoting chrisair (Reply 219):
Eventually that'll all end as the new walkway is going up now

What new walkway? near the lightrail tracks?

Quoting chrisair (Reply 219):
What's left over from the old airlines? I know some stop lines on the DL side still show DC-10 and 727, but that's all I can see. I really do enjoy T3.

Old jetway marks where gates 21 and 22 sat, Republic FOD buckets, Old HP locker room, and markings on fan switches in the bag room from Western, Eastern, CO, and Pan Am.

Were the level 3 Mezziane offices always there? It seems like that would be a great place for somewhat of a lounge or something.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:06 am

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 221):
What new walkway? near the lightrail tracks?

Supposedly they're building a walkway from T2 to the T3 light rail station.

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 221):
Old jetway marks where gates 21 and 22 sat, Republic FOD buckets, Old HP locker room, and markings on fan switches in the bag room from Western, Eastern, CO, and Pan Am.

Were the level 3 Mezziane offices always there? It seems like that would be a great place for somewhat of a lounge or something.

Got it. A few years ago, the old WN jetways in TUS used to have markings that said "Proudly made for Eastern." One had the TWA logo on it.

BTW, there was a DL Crown Room/Sky Club in PHX until 2008. It's still there--next to gate 18. It's just been lying fallow for few years. I really wish they'd reopen that one.

Quoting mach2is2slowaz (Reply 220):
Western Airlines

Duh. Forgot all about Western....
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:57 am

There is a thread about a new route being announced tomorrow at gateway for those interested. Have a good night, great lighting storm tonight
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:03 am

Quoting BA744PHX (Reply 215):
outside of ORD that was recently announced [by NK] are other routes possible DEN? LAX? FLL? What are your thoughts.
Quoting hz747300 (Reply 216):
LAX would probably do well,

I just posted over on the "New Airline To Be Announced at Mesa"-thread that I feel SAN-AZA would be a good fit for NK.

SAN is the 4th largest market out of PHX whle PHX is the 2nd largest destination from Lindbergh Field and the market (around 670K pax over the last year) is served by (only) 2 cx. Of the 3 bigger markets out of PHX -- DEN, LAS and LAX -- Vegas is already served from Mesa, while DEN and LAX are already connected with PHX by a minimum of 4 cx.)

SAN-AZA is a short, high-volume market that seems like a good match for NK's current model. The route would join 2 growing NK stations and I'm sure a decent enough percentage of the traffic that flies from SAN into Sky Harbor would like arriving at Mesa Airport instead.. especially at really low fares!

  

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:54 am

Quoting 93Sierra (Reply 223):
There is a thread about a new route being announced tomorrow at gateway for those interested. Have a good night, great lighting storm tonight

And I'm missing it -_-

Quoting SANFan (Reply 224):
I just posted over on the "New Airline To Be Announced at Mesa"-thread that I feel SAN-AZA would be a good fit for NK.

Well it wouldn't be NK as they already serve Mesa
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:17 pm

Well it looks like F9 is going into AZA

[Edited 2012-08-06 05:18:38]

ops posted on wrong forum


[Edited 2012-08-06 05:19:40]
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:50 pm

Having spent endless hours spotting at AZA I can't wait to see the F9 colors grace the skies. Exciting news for the East Valley!

I think they will have some great success with this route and, like many on here, I plan on being out there for the first flight on November 15th.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:21 pm

Quoting ba744phx (Reply 226):
Well it looks like F9 is going into AZA

And this is going to be a step in the right direction to make AZA more of a full fledged airport. AZA has been mostly O&D (and probably more of that being destination) with G4 to a lot of the smaller America cities. NK stepped in with flights to LAS and DFW, but still, mostly O&D on those flights, since NK touts a 90% O&D rate.

Now with F9, along with probably a lot of O&D, connections are available in DEN to LGA, as well as a few other destinations that aren't available nonstop from PHX. Also a range of destinations open up with the connects that may be available n/s at PHX, but maybe some traveling to/from the AZA area would rather connect in DEN than venture through PHX.

Maybe if AZA can get a few more nonstops to places such as SoCal, Chicago, SFO/SEA/SLC areas, or others where there is high volume PHX (such as DEN), AZA will be able to capture a larger portion of the Phoenix air traffic.

Congrats to both F9 and AZA. I think that this is one route that will work well, and may others appear soon, and all the best happen for AZA.

 
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:30 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 228):
Maybe if AZA can get a few more nonstops to places such as SoCal, Chicago, SFO/SEA/SLC areas, or others where there is high volume PHX (such as DEN), AZA will be able to capture a larger portion of the Phoenix air traffic.

NK will start ORD-AZA on November 9  
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:02 pm

Quoting ba744phx (Reply 226):
ops posted on wrong forum

That's ok it's PHX related  
Quoting ACJFLYER (Reply 227):
Having spent endless hours spotting at AZA I can't wait to see the F9 colors grace the skies. Exciting news for the East Valley!

Now here's my question, this time related to PHX- is F9 going to drop PHX, then? Or run them concurrently?
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:21 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 230):
Now here's my question, this time related to PHX- is F9 going to drop PHX, then? Or run them concurrently?

The schedule shows that they are flying both PHX-DEN and AZA-DEN. The Phoenix metro is large enough with a large amount of people in the east valley which that are much closer to AZA than PHX, and this should provide significant enough feed to maintain both AZA and PHX. Time will only tell but from the success that NK and G4 have been seeing at AZA I wouldn't be surprised to see both PHX and AZA stick around.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:29 pm

Quoting ba744phx (Reply 229):
NK will start ORD-AZA on November 9

Oh yes, forgot about that....... duh me, eh?

Anyway, will there be any connect opportunities with that? LGA? BOS? ACY even?

Good to see AZA growing up some, and playing with the big boys, although it maybe has a bit of a ways to go.

----------------

If I may question here, and maybe not really the Phoenix area, but Arizona -- whatever is happening to IFP?

SY served it for a while a few years ago from MSP and DFW I do believe, and then SY had its BK, and IFP just sort of went into oblivion....

Is there not enough population/tourism/gambling there to make any commercial service worthwhile, even if just seasonal and not even daily? Just curious here if anyone would know what's doing there..... I know that a few years ago they had some incentive $$$$$ for F9 and DEN, and then even F9 seemed to not want to go there.

 
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:47 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 232):

G4 serves charter service to IFP every two months or so on the MD-87 from AZA. Also I believe SY flies into the airport as charter service only.
 
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:00 am

Quoting point2point (Reply 228):
And this is going to be a step in the right direction to make AZA more of a full fledged airport. AZA has been mostly O&D (and probably more of that being destination) with G4 to a lot of the smaller America cities. NK stepped in with flights to LAS and DFW, but still, mostly O&D on those flights, since NK touts a 90% O&D rate.

Sorry for what may sound like a dumb qestion but what is O&D? I am new to this forum.   
 
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:53 am

Quoting mach2is2slowaz (Reply 234):
Sorry for what may sound like a dumb qestion but what is O&D? I am new to this forum.

It stands for Origin and Destination. People traveling from point A to point B without connecting anywhere else.
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:00 am

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 214):
This just hit me today, last summer the airport had a display about the history of the airport and showed pictures of T3 when it first opened in the late 70s. Now when walking through hallways and driving over on the south end I can tell it has changed alot and see bits and pieces of airlines past.. But besides those pictures in the display and this one I found doing a google search, I was just curious what T3 was like in the 70s,80s,and early 90s. Thought some of our PHX veterans could give me some insight..

I just flew on a Delta flight from T3 the other day and took a picture of the old Northwest gates. Gate 26 still had a taxiway marking for parking B727s and DC-10s. T3 North is just about all Delta now with one gate used by Frontier. I can still remember going out to the airport with my dad in the 90s to watch planes. We usually went out to T3 and there were always lots of Deltas with the old widget, Western Pacific B737s, Northwest DC-10s and ATA B757s, Along with American, Sun Country B727s and Midwest Express.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8427/7730139504_d4debef9f3_b.jpg
Skyharbor Terminal 3 by KoryC757, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7730137532_da5e9f20cd_b.jpg
Terminal 3, Gate 24 by KoryC757, on Flickr
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:46 am

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 236):

What's going on at gate 25?
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:50 am

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 236):
Gate 26 still had a taxiway marking for parking B727s and DC-10s.

But yet they are parking the HA 767 over there now...

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 236):

Thank you for the pictures. It is sad to see only one sometimes two of the former NW gates occupied

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 237):
What's going on at gate 25?

Are you talking about the mobile wall? Gate 25 does not have a tenant, DL will use the gate for RON aircraft. The portable wall is used guide people down the correct jetway if needed or if there are VIPs that need to be blocked off over the windows
 
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:28 pm

PHX just tweeted a picture of the first 744 to go under the Sky Train bridge (BA of course):

Source: http://twitter.com/PHXSkyHarbor/stat...s/232933857115111424/photo/1/large
Is the 747 the largest aircraft that can clear the bridge?

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Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:52 pm

Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 239):
Is the 747 the largest aircraft that can clear the bridge?

The skybridge is 100 Ft Tall

Boeing 747 : 63ft 8in
Airbus A380 : 79 Ft

So technically if PHX ever got A380 service, one can dream, it would be able to clear it as long as the wingspan isn't an issue.
 
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:20 pm

Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 239):
PHX just tweeted a picture of the first 744 to go under the Sky Train bridge (BA of course):

Might be the first official picture, but it's probably not the first time it's gone under the bridge... that happened months ago when 26 was shut down for 2 weeks for maintenance.

Unless, of course, the picture was taken back then (which I doubt).

Quoting phxa340 (Reply 240):
it would be able to clear it as long as the wingspan isn't an issue.

The wingspan would prevent it from using Taxiway R with or without the bridge.
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:21 pm

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 241):
Might be the first official picture, but it's probably not the first time it's gone under the bridge... that happened months ago when 26 was shut down for 2 weeks for maintenance.

Unless, of course, the picture was taken back then (which I doubt).

Yes, I remember watching it taxi under the bridge multiple times back in January. Since BA's winter schedule has the aircraft arriving and departing after sunset, that photo is definitely from a couple of days ago.
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:41 am

Quoting wn676 (Reply 242):
Since BA's winter schedule has the aircraft arriving and departing after sunset, that photo is definitely from a couple of days ago.

Agreed, I would say it was taken over the weekend when the north runway was closed for routine repairs
 
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:22 am

Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 239):
PHX just tweeted a picture of the first 744 to go under the Sky Train bridge (BA of course):
Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 243):
Agreed, I would say it was taken over the weekend when the north runway was closed for routine repairs

I was going to say because the BA plane never usually goes under that bridge.
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:57 am

A quick question to AS flyers in PHX- how often do they fly to PHX? I know it depends on the day but I had major issues trying to get into PHX connecting from SEA today. My plane to SEA arrived late and once we arrived, a funeral pall removed the casket of a fallen soldier (    ) so a lot of us had missed our connection.

When I went to the AS counter in SEA they were quite useless.
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 245):
A quick question to AS flyers in PHX- how often do they fly to PHX? I know it depends on the day but I had major issues trying to get into PHX connecting from SEA today. My plane to SEA arrived late and once we arrived, a funeral pall removed the casket of a fallen soldier (    ) so a lot of us had missed our connection.

There are 5 flights a day. You can also route through LAX to Eagle or DL/Skywest. If you're creative you can route to any SoCal airport or LAS and pick up a WN flight back to PHX as well. I've done this at SNA and SAN a few times.
 
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:49 pm

Quoting chrisair (Reply 246):
There are 5 flights a day. You can also route through LAX to Eagle or DL/Skywest. If you're creative you can route to any SoCal airport or LAS and pick up a WN flight back to PHX as well. I've done this at SNA and SAN a few times.

I see, that makes sense. DL ended up routing me through SLC (I ended up passing out on the SLC flight to PHX and the person sitting next to me had to shake me violently to wake me up. That hurt.)

The thread's been quiet recently, How's everyone doing so far? Anything interesting circulating around the rumor table?

So F9 is gonna run concurrently with PHX and AZA. Interested to see how the two airports are going to compete for passengers on one single route.
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:00 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 247):
I see, that makes sense. DL ended up routing me through SLC

When working OO flights to LAX, you will sometimes see there are more QX and AS bags then DL bags.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 247):
So F9 is gonna run concurrently with PHX and AZA. Interested to see how the two airports are going to compete for passengers on one single route.

I don't think the airports will compete. F9 is only doing one flight a day on an A319. PHX-DEN is a flooded market with UA,F9,WN,and US flying the route. I think F9 will be successful on the route for just one flight a day. Maybe in the future they will run CUN charters, but only time will tell.
 
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:10 pm

Was there a Russian plane at the ANG/Swift ramp on Tuesday? I saw something that looked like a Russian 757, but only had a quick glimpse as we took off.

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 248):
When working OO flights to LAX, you will sometimes see there are more QX and AS bags then DL bags.

Mine is one of those that has the pink tag and the QX tag on it. Now that AS lives in T6 at LAX it's a really convenient connection--and the DL terminal at PHX is far easier to deal with than T4 and WN. I've been on the PHX-LAX flights a lot recently.

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