|Quoting phxa340 (Reply 198):|
Fair enough , but how else would US get passengers to Hawaii without the PHX flight ? If they want a presence in that market ...they need these flights. You could be absolutely right , all I am saying is that unless these flights are extremely profitable for US , there is no reason US can't combine Hawaii Ops with AA's out of LAX. Like I mentioned before sometimes these flights appear to be profitable , other times , its pretty bad.
Well they could set up a code share with HA's HNL-PHX flight like HP did from 2002 to 2005 before they started their non-stop service, and they could funnel the rest onto partner airlines at LAX, that's if US discontinued their own flights. If they merge with AA a lot of the Hawaii services would likely move out to LAX, however there is sufficient demand for US or a merged US/AA to at least maintain service to HNL. Presence in a market is all well and good but if it's a market that isn't performing, then is it still important to continue to serve the market just because? if it wasn't breaking even for US or even HA then the service wouldn't exist, but they continue to run many flights per day year round. If US was the only player in the PHX-Hawaii market and only ran say one daily flight to HNL then it would be simple to move the service to LAX in a merger, however the market supports much more service then that. Ultimately I feel US and HA wouldn't fly PHX-HNL if there wasn't money to be made on the service.