|Quoting Lutfi (Reply 32):|
this isn't a BMW twitch, it is a rear wheel drive twitch.
Ok. But its more fun to say BMW twitch.
|Quoting planemaker (Reply 34):|
I know a lot of wise pilots who don't have their IFR ticket.
Agreed. But not in my social circle.
I missed that. That is like some of my ex-Scuba buddies who thought taking deep water training made them safe.
It was following the training that made one safe. Ex-because they violated simple rules (do not surface faster than your bubbles from deep depth, surface with reserve air, and do a safety stop) and I don't dive with idiots.
The reality is, unfortunately, that a certain fraction of pilots shouldn't be pilots. I believe that is true of every hobby/profession.
|Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 38):|
I really don't think you have any business being up in the crap in a single engine aircraft that has no real deicing capabilities.
|Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 40):|
Cirrus assumed additional duties by offering the training. The issue is what the scope of that additional duty was. A manufacturer who doesn't offer training doesn't assume that set of duties.
So by doing the right thing and offering transition training for a more difficult aircraft Cirrus takes on Tort liability? It sounds like something Cirrus should outsource immediately!
|Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 41):|
I disagree - the only impact would have been that Cirrus would have stopped providing the transition training. It would have no impact upon other manufacturers and type transition training.
Ok. But that would have been an expensive lessons learned. Too expensive relative to what was done. The penalty was far outside of reasonable.
Again, a death is worth something. IMHO, everyone should have to buy insurance for whatever that amount is. It could be life insurance or liability insurance. Unless Cirrus did something malicious (no evidence what so ever), I am unable to see the justification of that liability.
For example, if I die on the job, in addition to my other life insurance, I would get about 4X my annual income from my employer. $16M is quite a few Cirrus aircraft... Too many.
My problem isn't Cirrus being sued, it is the amount awarded and thus the disincentive to manufacture in the USA. Even if the liability came from the training, it impacts manufacturing here and we've already done too good of a job chasing jobs away. Its why we seem to be a nation of salespeople instead of manufacturing, science, and the other professions we used to be so good at.
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