UA 787 Dreamliner: Unveiling Event 7/31

hhslax2 · Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:43 pm

I searched and didn't see anything posted about this.

Is this simply going to be showing off the new paint job, a whole interior tour, or something else?

https://hub.united.com/en-us/Videos/Company/Pages/787-Dreamliner-Live.aspx

spiritair97 · Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:59 am

Probably the whole enchelada! They've already Released a pic of the new livery that will be applied to it, so I guess the next step is to "officialy" unveil the colorscheme and unveil the interior.

(BTW, the new colorscheme does explain why all the pics of the UA 787s have no cheatline painted on them yet.)

AVENSAB727 · Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:12 am

I cant wait to see the delivery flight to IAH!

NorthstarBoy · Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:45 am

Considering that UA's HQ is now in Chicago, wouldn't they fly it there?

On another note, any idea when the first revenue flight is?

_AA_777_MAN · Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:11 pm

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 3):
Considering that UA's HQ is now in Chicago, wouldn't they fly it there?

I believe the pilots are all based out of IAH, as well as the maintenance will be based out of IAH as well. AFAIK all new 787s will be delivered to IAH.

fun2fly · Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:17 pm

I noted in the Q2 Fleet Update issued last week, that UA's 787 deliveries slipped again. Now, they will only get 4 units in 2012 and none until Q4. Previously it was 5 units with one in Q3.

It did not list whether or not the 2013 units will go to 7 788's or stay at 6 with one going into 2014.

VC10er · Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:21 pm

I went to "the Hub" and I can't play the movie on my iphone. But from the pictures below, did UA change the BF seat for the 787? And I can see a couple of seats up front that look different from the others?

Also, doesn't another airline have the same BF seat?

And I doubt it was intentional, but the mood lighting in the still shot are the old UA colors!

United1 · Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:41 pm

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 5):

I noted in the Q2 Fleet Update issued last week, that UA's 787 deliveries slipped again. Now, they will only get 4 units in 2012 and none until Q4. Previously it was 5 units with one in Q3.

The fleet update refers to in service aircraft....UA still expects to receive 5 aircraft this year but only 4 of them will be active in the fleet by the end of the year.

IAHFLYR · Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:01 pm

Quoting _AA_777_MAN (Reply 4):
I believe the pilots are all based out of IAH, as well as the maintenance will be based out of IAH as well.

That is correct and I'd bet she'll first arrive IAH after delivery.

JetBlueAUS · Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:40 pm

What routes will they be flown on initially? Any domestic?

spiritair97 · Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:51 pm

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 9):

I know that DEN-NRT is the first International route.

I also heard:

IAH-MCO
EWR-IAH
EWR-SFO/LAX

Rdh3e · Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:56 pm

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 8):
What routes will they be flown on initially? Any domestic?

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 10):
I know that DEN-NRT is the first International route.

I also heard:

IAH-MCO
EWR-IAH
EWR-SFO/LAX

I've been told all hub-hub during the "break in" period.

AVENSAB727 · Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:28 pm

I think the DEN-NRT was the first 787 intl route announced, but that doesnt mean it will be the first intl route flown.

KarelXWB · Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:05 pm

United Airlines To Host Live Webcast Of First Dreamliner Rolling Out Of Paint Facility

http://ir.unitedcontinentalholdings....-newsArticle&ID=1719949&highlight=

spiritair97 · Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:40 pm

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 11):

Does that mean sCO hub-to-hub or sUA hubs, too? For example, will EWR-ORD ever see 787 service?

laxboeingman · Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:46 pm

I am very excited for this and for the fact that the UA 787 is ready...which means it will be delivered soon. This will be a game changer for UA, at least in my opinion. They will be able to attract more int'l pax by flying to destinations that were too small for the 777. I have said this before, but I will say it again...the future of flight is upon us.

laxboeingman

VC10er · Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:26 am

Quoting VC10er (Reply 6):

Well of all the dumb posts I've made this one tops the list: I was looking at Boeing pictures not UA 787 interiors.

Nonetheless I agree with everyone. This is an inflection point. Moving forward we will demand this level of technology meeting beauty. Bravo United and I hope when UA's hubs are covered with 787's, it will turn their reputation around.

FlyHossD · Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:57 am

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 10):

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 9):

I know that DEN-NRT is the first International route.

I also heard:

IAH-MCO
EWR-IAH
EWR-SFO/LAX

I've also heard IAH-LAX.

hiflyer · Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:33 am

Quoting flyhossd (Reply 17):
I've also heard IAH-LAX.

Think you will seen the 787 visit all stations domestically that see the 767 and above. Particular routes and such while on proving runs have not been released but I am sure they will be once the aircraft is on the property at the latest. I would also expect the s-ua policy of long haul testing with some east coast-Hawaii runs as well as they did with the first 777's into service to test ETOPS. Stretch it legs so to speak!! https://hub.united.com/en-us/pages/default.aspx will be one place to view it starting at 0830 edt.

(hadn't seen any pix of the first 727-100 that is stored on the same field lately...been moved last few days...be nice it it was there at the unveiling!)

EBGflyer · Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:05 am

Nice to see the config from UA themselves.

Has this been posted before? Interesting to see they are mixing a zone of E+ and E (row 23-25). I assume they have done this to squeeze in these 3 rows as there otherwise would only have been room for 2 E+ resulting in waste of space.

IAHFLYR · Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:52 am

Is this really only able to be seen if you are a Facebook user? Anyone have another link to the unveiling?

bralo20 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:08 pm

Wow, Business seems roomy compared to the 777IPTE layout, however, when flying cattle I'd rather fly the 777 then this 787...

Wonder if UA is going to add "premium" 787's with F, C and 8 across Y+ and Y...

ghifty · Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:26 pm

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 20):
Is this really only able to be seen if you are a Facebook user? Anyone have another link to the unveiling?

No. I'm pretty sure you can view it without "liking." 5 minutes!!

SWALUV · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:08 pm

Interesting CO tail number??? N20904 has been born!!!!!! CO registration.... very interesting....

TWA772LR · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:09 pm

N20904 has left the building!!!!!

Ideekay · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:11 pm

Very very nice bird! Hopefully there is one a.netter that will upload his photo!

drerx7 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:15 pm

Gorgous bird...honestly this color scheme would be a nice alteration to the fleet. I can't wait till they announce proving runs so I can book my seat.

ghifty · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:18 pm

Looks gorgeous! Can't wait to see her take to the skies.

Quoting SWALUV (Reply 23):

Interesting CO tail number??? N20904 has been born!!!!!! CO registration.... very interesting....

CO ordered the 787.. maybe we'll see the Delta 787's with an "NW" registration!

hnl-jack · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:18 pm

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 21):
Wonder if UA is going to add "premium" 787's with F, C and 8 across Y+ and Y...

Have to wait for the 787-9's, although it will be 9 across in Y.

SWALUV · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:20 pm

Quoting ghifty (Reply 27):
CO ordered the 787..

I thought it was UA.

Ideekay · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:21 pm

Got a screenshot, here she is:

Polot · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:23 pm

Quoting SWALUV (Reply 29):
I thought it was UA.

Both UA and CO ordered the 787. This is a PMCO bird, the deliveries from the PMUA order don't begin until a few years from now.

chrisnh · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:24 pm

The plane is cool, the registration number isn't.

01pewterz28 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:25 pm

Congrats to United she looks amazing to my fellow PMUA fellow flight officers your time is coming soon congrats to the PMCO pilots enjoy your new bird.

SWALUV · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:25 pm

Quoting Polot (Reply 31):
until a few years from now.

Will those have the N***UA registration?

IAHFLYR · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:25 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 32):
The plane is cool, the registration number isn't.

What's wrong with the "N" number?

AVENSAB727 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:36 pm

I cant wait to see the 787 at IAH, and the delivery flight too.

bralo20 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:56 pm

Quoting HNL-Jack (Reply 28):
Have to wait for the 787-9's, although it will be 9 across in Y.

To bad, well I hope that UA doesn't use the 787 on any of their BRU routes then. The 777 and 767 are just fine then

I would hate it to change carriers because it sends a cattle layout over the pond.

Anyway, the bird looks nice, it's a step up from the old CO livery so that's a nice thing.

IAHFLYR · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:00 pm

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 36):
I cant wait to see the 787 at IAH, and the delivery flight too.

Any guess either educated or uneducated as to the delivery date? My completely uneducated guess is IAH arrival Friday, September 21, 2012. Why, because I won't be in town to see it arrive!!!

chrisnh · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:11 pm

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 35):
What's wrong with the "N" number?

Oh, there's nothing 'wrong' with it. I didn't say there was. But it seems rather 'pedestrian' for such a momentous launch (the first U.S. flag carrier 787). That's all.

United787 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:13 pm

Quoting Polot (Reply 31):
This is a PMCO bird, the deliveries from the PMUA order don't begin until a few years from now.

They are one company now, these are all UA birds.

Quoting SWALUV (Reply 34):
Will those have the N***UA registration?

I am sure not.

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 35):
What's wrong with the "N" number?

The sCO numbers were seemingly random numbers where as the sUA numbers were all NxxxUA and every aircraft type had its own numbers, for example:

A319 - N8xxUA
A320 - N4xxUA
744 - N1xxUA
752 - N5xxUA
763 - N6xxUA
772 - N2xxUA and N7xxUA

Rdh3e · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:26 pm

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 38):
Any guess either educated or uneducated as to the delivery date? My completely uneducated guess is IAH arrival Friday, September 21, 2012. Why, because I won't be in town to see it arrive!!!

According to the newest fleet plan, delivery of the 787's is now pushed into Q4, so you should be okay.

http://ir.unitedcontinentalholdings....nix.zhtml?c=83680&p=irol-fleetInfo

Tdan · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:28 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 40):
Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 35):
What's wrong with the "N" number?

The sCO numbers were seemingly random numbers where as the sUA numbers were all NxxxUA and every aircraft type had its own numbers, for example:

A319 - N8xxUA
A320 - N4xxUA
744 - N1xxUA
752 - N5xxUA
763 - N6xxUA
772 - N2xxUA and N7xxUA

It's a sCO N-number. CO's fleet numbering scheme isn't random and the ranges are roughly as follows (a few holes with recent a/c exits):

772 - Nxx001-Nxx022
764 - Nxx051-Nxx066
752 - Nxx101-Nxx141
762 - Nxx151-Nxx160
738 - Nxx201-Nxx299, Nxx501-Nxx599 (open ended for more deliveries)
733 - were Nxx3xx range
739 - Nxx401-Nxx412
739ER - Nxx413-Nxx499 (open ended for more deliveries)
735 - Nxx601 - Nxx650
73G - Nxx701 - Nxx750
753 - Nxx850-Nxx875
787 - Nxx9xx

[Edited 2012-07-31 07:39:31]

DarkSnowyNight · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:28 pm

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 37):
Anyway, the bird looks nice, it's a step up from the old CO livery so that's a nice thing.

Personally, I feel neutral about that. But the question is, does anyone know if this is a fleet-wide update, or just a one-off a la ANA's first two 788s?

jnj561 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:36 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 40):
The sCO numbers were seemingly random numbers where as the sUA numbers were all NxxxUA and every aircraft type had its own numbers, for example:

A319 - N8xxUA
A320 - N4xxUA
744 - N1xxUA
752 - N5xxUA
763 - N6xxUA
772 - N2xxUA and N7xxUA

The sCO tail numbers ties to plane type as well:

735 - Nxx6xx
73G - Nxx7xx
738 - Nxx2xx and Nxx5xx
739 - Nxx4xx
752 - Nxx1x1 - Nxx141
753 - Nxx8xx
762 - Nxx151 - Nxx160
764 - Nxx051 - Nxx066
772 - Nxx001 - Nxx022

IAHFLYR · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:37 pm

Quoting Tdan (Reply 42):
It's a sCO N-number. CO's fleet numbering scheme isn't random and the ranges are roughly as follows (a few holes with recent a/c exits):

Yep, they've used them for years, but I think you missed on the B752's as the last ship is #141, N19141.

spink · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:40 pm

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 37):

To bad, well I hope that UA doesn't use the 787 on any of their BRU routes then. The 777 and 767 are just fine then I would hate it to change carriers because it sends a cattle layout over the pond.

We'll have to wait and see how accurate seatguru is. They are currently quoting 18.3" seat width for the 9 across united config,

United787 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:50 pm

Quoting jnj561 (Reply 44):
The sCO tail numbers ties to plane type as well:

Quoting Tdan (Reply 42):
It's a sCO N-number. CO's fleet numbering scheme isn't random and the ranges are roughly as follows (a few holes with recent a/c exits):

Did not know that but you have to admit that the UA system is better ...minor issue, I know, but it always surprised my CO did't use CA like AA, WN, US, DL etc...

tommy767 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:00 pm

Registration does not bother me. It is a sCO bird after all.

Just hope this plane lives up to all the hype!

drerx7 · Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:04 pm

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 41):
According to the newest fleet plan, delivery of the 787's is now pushed into Q4, so you should be okay.

Well, that's in scheduled service. Not so sure that doesn't mean the first won't be delivered in September as planned. However, that could be a matter of days apart from Q3 to Q4.

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