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Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:53 pm

According to the BBC this is a scam, which would seem very likely.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-19255176

http://www.fairairways.com/

And they even describe themselves as "Royal UK Airlines"!

What similar scams have been tried before via creating a fake web presence for a non-existent airline, or is this a first?
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Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:54 pm

Lots of copyrighted images being used on their site too.....notably BA publicity shots & the use of the Unite Union logo as their own!
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:50 am

Yeah, we had Metis Transpacific a few years ago, I'll probably post the links later.

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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:56 am

Now, go check out the link to the "Fair training".

Its a hoot if you can look over all of the typos etc. its 6 months of training and you supposedly stay in a hostel In the UK or India!

Yea, sure!
 
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:28 am

Quoting jetdudetim (Reply 3):

I was reading that page too. It just looked so genuine, I'm thinking I should apply!  
 
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:42 am

I think there may be an issue here. Fair Training could argue that they are a third party and contracted by Fair Airways as their training contractor. "FAIR ACADEMY, UK is independent training unit of FAIR AIRWAYS, UK, "

If you are paying money to Fair Training is there a violation related to the operation of an airline? The airline website is pretty bare.

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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:36 am

If you are paying money to Fair Training is there a violation related to the operation of an airline?"

No, and airline can charge for FAs to go through training if they want too. TWA in the later years charged for training and you still were not guaranteed a job if you made it through. Tacky.
 
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:12 pm

Quoting jetdudetim (Reply 6):
No, and airline can charge for FAs to go through training if they want too. TWA in the later years charged for training and you still were not guaranteed a job if you made it through. Tacky.

The only thing is the fact that the site does make it sound like you are guaranteeed a job if you pass classes. I guess you could fail everyone in the last exam/certification.
 
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:16 pm

Website seems to be no more on my end... That was fast!  

Fair Airways is a bad name for an airline. "How was your flight?" "Fair..."

Its like they want to be good or bad, just barely acceptable!  
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:52 pm

Here it was, A.net investigation at its finest: Metis TransPacific Airlines!

Warning: Metis TransPacific - A Fake Airline! (by YLWbased Nov 28 2007 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:17 pm

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 9):
Here it was, A.net investigation at its finest: Metis TransPacific Airlines!

Oh that brings so many memories!   

Bye bye another scammy airlines!

(but unfortunately, scams for flight training through the web still pop up from time to time!)

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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:19 pm

Quoting n797mx (Reply 8):
Its like they want to be good or bad, just barely acceptable!

"Barely acceptable" would be an improvement for many of the existing airlines.  
 
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:32 pm

Well, there was always Family Airlines in all it's different guises.......here's the latest reference I could find for it on A.net


Family Airlines Changes Name, Not Business Plan (by Goldenshield Oct 27 2010 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=4966509&searchid=4969304&s=family+airlines#ID4969304





There was the "new" version of PanAm, based in Brownsville, TX, too.
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:56 pm

What about Baltia? They keep seeming to pop up and fade away...
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:30 pm

It looks like the website for fairairways has been deceased, "closed by remote server".
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:44 pm

Their training website shows a rendering of an A350. Is this the type of aircraft they intend to use? I never thought is was possible for Airbus to not only reach certification of the aircraft by Nov. 1 but to also fulfill orders that haven't even been placed yet.   
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:25 pm

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 9):
Metis TransPacific Airlines!

Oh good, someone did it for me. Yeah, that one was pretty histerical.
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:12 pm

Quoting B727FA (Reply 13):
What about Baltia? They keep seeming to pop up and fade away...

Yeah... what on earth is happening with them? A while back, they actually bought and painted up an old 747...
 
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RE: Fair Airways, A Possible Scam Airline?

Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:42 am

Could this be a new Nigerian scam?

LMAO! I saw they accepted Western Union. That alone screams scam! These guys never give up.

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