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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4): I guess with everyone and their brother selling Europe-BKK tickets, a high cost operation like SAS struggles. Look even AF has to juggle its BKK ops and recently LH mentioned it was having issues. |
Quoting LondonCity (Reply 6): The news story appears to have been changed to reflect the fact that SAS is converting a year-round service to a seasonal operation. |
Quoting LondonCity (Reply 6): The news story appears to have been changed to reflect the fact that SAS is converting a year-round service to a seasonal operation. |
Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 8): Would it help if SAS reconfigures the A343 to, say, 300 seats, 25J and 275Y? |
Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 7): It appears that SK operates roughly one third of the market share on CPHBKK while TG controls the other two thirds. |
Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 8): The rumour mill in Scandinavia says most J seats are filled with upgrades and ID-travelers anyway to BKK, so why not get more revenue by selling more Y seats? |
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Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 8): Would it help if SAS reconfigures the A343 to, say, 300 seats, 25J and 275Y? The rumour mill in Scandinavia says most J seats are filled with upgrades and ID-travelers anyway to BKK, so why not get more revenue by selling more Y seats? They would have to dedicate 2-3 aircraft for this, but it might be worth it? |
Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter): SAS blames the routes leisure orientation and highly competitive market place for the cut. |
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Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter): Interesting to note BKK was SAS first Far-East destination, and SAS was instrumental in the creation of Thai Airways, which even shared the SAS livery for many years. |
Quoting SQSFO (Reply 17): The nordic countries have proven to be quite socialistic, lets see how they will deal with foreign air competition |
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 16): This really tells a lot about SK operations. If they cannot even make BKK profitable, with the huge amount of Scandinavians going to BKK each year (there is a reason DY have this as one of their first intercontinental routes), then there is definitely something wrong at SK..... |
Quoting danielkandi (Reply 20): IF you are willing to pay overprice/danish prices, for a good steak/primecuts of all kinds, M.A.S.H. Restaurant has everything from your typical lunchoffer-steak for 20 odd euro's , and well over 80 euro for other cuts. |
Quoting sweair (Reply 5): I rather fly Thai from ARN than ARN-CPH-BKK with SAS and the 744s fly a bit faster than the A340s.. SAS has an idiotic routing IMO and probably lose a bit by this too |
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 16): If they cannot even make BKK profitable, with the huge amount of Scandinavians going to BKK each year (there is a reason DY have this as one of their first intercontinental routes |
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 24): Maybe SAS fly to the wrong destination in Thailand. Most Scandinavians holiday in and around Phuket meaning that any flight to BKK will require transfer to HKT. It will probably be best if they let TG deal with this route and offer a codeshare. Who knows, maybe the frequency will be increased to CPH now and CPH could even be a candidate for the TG A380 in the future. |
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 24): Also, didn't SK try ARN - BKK and failed miserably? I think CPH is the only airport it could work from for them but as mentioned above, their aircraft are maybe to J intensive to make a profit. |
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 24): Maybe SAS fly to the wrong destination in Thailand. Most Scandinavians holiday in and around Phuket meaning that any flight to BKK will require transfer to HKT. It will probably be best if they let TG deal with this route and offer a codeshare. Who knows, maybe the frequency will be increased to CPH now and CPH could even be a candidate for the TG A380 in the future. |
Quoting SQSFO (Reply 17): The nordic countries have proven to be quite socialistic, lets see how they will deal with foreign air competition |
Quoting bestwestern (Reply 23): AF, AB and SK have now made major changes to their schedules and LH have highlighted BKK as one of their very worst performing destinations. BA have also dropped their onward service to SYD from BKK, so BKK is really struggling. |
Quoting ohsopc (Reply 29): It seems to me that TG and the Middle East airlines are doing very well at the expense of the European carriers. |
Quoting LondonCity (Reply 30): I don't believe TG is doing so well out of LHR. It's using smaller planes than before so it would suggest TG is not finding the same demand as before. |
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Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter): SAS blames the routes leisure orientation and highly competitive market place for the cut. |
Quoting LondonCity (Reply 30): I don't believe TG is doing so well out of LHR. It's using smaller planes than before so it would suggest TG is not finding the same demand as before. |
Quoting ohsopc (Reply 29): It seems to me that TG and the Middle East airlines are doing very well at the expense of the European carriers. |
Quoting nethkt (Reply 31): TG is all about internal political. |
Quoting danielkandi (Reply 32): Another huge problem is the passport checkpoint when going out of Schengen. |
Quoting danielkandi (Reply 32): I completely forgot Café Copenhagen, and the new nordic gourmét place besides MASH, the breakfast at CPH cafe is nice, but i have yet to try the gourmet one. |
Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 22): BKK is a low yield tourist destination with almost no business travel (perhaps 25-30%) and low cargo volume |
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 24): Maybe SAS fly to the wrong destination in Thailand. Most Scandinavians holiday in and around Phuket meaning that any flight to BKK will require transfer to HKT |
Quoting something (Reply 34): On a tangential note.. you say the A340 crew complained about being limited in their rosters. Does Thai have a dedicated A346 crew, or do they also operate the A333 and the old A345? |
Quoting MAS777 (Reply 28): News reports in Malaysia suggest that the governments of Sweden and Malaysia are hoping to re-establish direct air links between the two countries.. I expect with this latest news - the chances of seeing SAS at KUL is now virtually nil. http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v6/ne...95026 |
Quoting danielkandi (Reply 14): On SAS, the premium seats are ridiculously overprized, for what they offer. |
Quoting sweair (Reply 40): Kastrup stinks if you dont need to eat or drink, there is nowhere to sit down, I never had that problem on ARN. I know many swedes hate going via CPH, if there is an option people want to go straight from ARN to their destination. |
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 41): CPH's redeeeming feature is that queuing for security is a lot less than ARN and luggage arrives much faster. I really hate travelling through ARN because it is a place of stress for me. The main security check at Terminal 5 is always undermanned and the queues are ridiculous. Luggage always takes an age (at least 15 minutes) and staff there are very rude. |
Quoting CPHFF (Reply 39): You are absolutely correct, Flew Economy Extra on their 343 last year, and I was really disappointed with what I got for the almost double price of a regular Y ticket. Being 6.4" (190cm), legroom is more inportant than seat width. Also, the IFE box on the floow took about 20% of the space in the seat in fron of me. Hard to move my feet around.......... A 70 - 100% premium over Y-class fares, it's a rip-off! I think most passengers are business travelers that are not allowed by their Company to fly Business Class (IMHO) |
Quoting danielkandi (Reply 42): Having said that. I would never take the Norwegian flight instead of SAS to BKK. Poor seats when its released I think. Probably way worse than the LH and SAS new upcoming slimseats, which were surprisingly comfy. But Norwegian to BKK, having to pay for drinks and food ? nahh... |
Quoting danielkandi (Reply 42): Also, on shorthaul, they could at LEAST do like KLM, block the seat next to you for privacy if you actually paid for a business ticket in one of their a320's in row one |
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 43): Despite free meals you are restricted to just two alcoholic drinks and SAS are just a horrible airline. |
Quoting someone83 (Reply 45): I do however find it ironic that you won't fly SAS since you have to pay for alcohol after drink nr2 or 3......but you still choose to fly with Ryanair. How many free drinks do you get there? |
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 47): SAS you pay for a premium airline but get LCC service, especially on short haul flights |
Quoting someone83 (Reply 48): So then it all comes down to free drinks or not....and that's is not really what diffrentiate LCC-service or not, in my oppinion. |