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Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:09 pm

To those fanatics of Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano (LB), these news will be of interest (sorry, link only in Spanish):

http://www.opinion.com.bo/opinion/ar...os/2012/1017/noticias.php?id=74694

It is correct, that LB has been serving TAM (Bolivia) flights regularly, I see the 727-200 (winglet) all the time in flights within Bolivia. It´s always a great sight!

Let´s hope this investment project goes ahead, as for sure LB will easily win back the confidence of the consumers who have trusted LB during decades prior to their economic turndown - yet as the note says, it never stopped existing.

It would be interesting to know, what two additional aircraft the investors would target to registering in Bolivia for LB's use. Any infos?
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:48 pm

Sorry to go off topic but what has happened with all of Aerosurs a/c? Are they all sitting in Santa Cruz?
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:50 pm

If I read this correctly, investors from the U.A.E will invest $150 million USD to get LAB back in the air again but the airline has $600 million USD of debt. And they plan on using gas guzzling 727s?

I'm a huge fan of LAB and I'd love to see and flight in one of their 727s some day, but not sure if this little manhattan project will work

Anyway. Best of luck
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:21 pm

Quoting 123 (Thread starter):
It would be interesting to know, what two additional aircraft the investors would target to registering in Bolivia for LB's use.

Hopefully, 2 Boeing 737-800 or 2 Boeing 767-300ER. That would let LAB operate medium and long-haul international flights.


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Quoting g500 (Reply 2):
investors from the U.A.E will invest $150 million USD to get LAB back in the air again but the airline has $600 million USD of debt. And they plan on using gas guzzling 727s?

Actually, LAB has 600 million bolivianos of debt, which would be around 86 million US dollars.


Best of luck to Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano !
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:04 pm

Quoting United727 (Reply 1):
Sorry to go off topic but what has happened with all of Aerosurs a/c? Are they all sitting in Santa Cruz?

I saw one of their B767's in MIA a couple of weeks ago. It's been there for the better part of the year.
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:45 pm

Quoting g500 (Reply 2):
manhattan project

Hm?

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 3):

Actually, LAB has 600 million bolivianos of debt, which would be around 86 million US dollars.

Wow, big difference  

Best of luck to LAB!
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:27 pm

WOW, I have 3 good friends, besided my uncles who worked on LAB, I'm pretty sure they'd be happy if it comes true! LAB service was AMAZING!
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:56 pm

Quoting United727 (Reply 1):
happened with all of Aerosurs a/c? Are they all sitting in Santa Cruz?

Many are @VVI and CBB (among scrapped ones too ; The foreseen 747-400 for VVI-MAD-VVI is also on tarmac @VVI (I started an earlier thread about that).

As the 5L aircraft were as per my knowledge all leased, probably as many as possible have returned to their lessors.

There is one 737-200, I have no registration, which I was told formerly worked for 5L and has now been repainted and is in service as "proud new aircraft" of TAM Bolivia. Gosh, that´s a noisy aircraft!

Quoting United727 (Reply 1):
If I read this correctly, investors from the U.A.E will invest $150 million USD to get LAB back in the air again but the airline has $600 million USD of debt. And they plan on using gas guzzling 727s?

I'm a huge fan of LAB and I'd love to see and flight in one of their 727s some day, but not sure if this little manhattan project will work

a) Yes, they will invest they say, +USD 150M; The debt of LB is variable according to sources, I prefer not to touch that topic.
b) I think yes they want to start with the 727-200's. They might be gas-guzzling, but they are there, paid, and working. For a start, you can rely on these aircraft, they are in good working condition (from my point of view as a pax).
c) You can fly the LB 727 any moment. Fly down to Bolivia, it operates for TAM Bolivia and specially to/from CBB, because @CBB, the aircraft is "at home".

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 3):

Hopefully, 2 Boeing 737-800 or 2 Boeing 767-300ER. That would let LAB operate medium and long-haul international flights.

Anything that is newer than 733's, which BOA operates as "the most modern aircraft in Bolivia" is highly welcome.

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 6):
LAB service was AMAZING!

And that´s the very point why I also trust a strong capital reinvestment to LB is worth it, because LB has a (negative exceptions apart..) remmarcable good reputation for their services in the past.
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:52 pm

Quoting United727 (Reply 1):
Sorry to go off topic but what has happened with all of Aerosurs a/c? Are they all sitting in Santa Cruz?

A couple of the 737-300's were ferried out of VVI up to LIM late in August and were supposed to be put into service with Peruvian Airlines. (P9)
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:48 pm

Quoting PMUA787 (Reply 8):
were supposed to be put into service with Peruvian Airlines. (P9)

which according to their website they will put into service in November.
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:38 am

Quoting 123 (Reply 7):
I think yes they want to start with the 727-200's.

@123

Are they going to put 5L's remaining 727's back into service? Both the former UA and the AA birds?
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:16 am

LAB forever -- one of the world's oldest and most historic carriers. The name deserves to live on.

That is, if, in fact, it's the "real" LAB, and not just a reincarnation of the name, a la Pan Am, Braniff, etc.


PS
Patrick Smith is an airline pilot, air travel columnist and author
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:29 am

Wouah that would be great ! If you except all the cancelled flights I can only confirm that their crew and service was great ! I miss them. And yes those 727 were in great shape !!

Alex
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:53 pm

Quoting United727 (Reply 10):
Are they going to put 5L's remaining 727's back into service?

I think those 5L 727's are not going to fly anytime soon.

LB has sufficient 727's at their hangar at CBB, apart from the one that is flying on regular basis for TAM Bolivia, as reported.

There is also an ex Champion-727 at CBB, who knows what will happen with that aircraft, it was supposed to work for LB in their past good times.

There is also the struggle about the former 737-300 that LB received directly from Boeing (ex Vasp-purchase), the aircraft is supposedly in Malaysia, supposedly with ownership problems due to the way it was transferred from LB to the company holding the aircraft now.

Apart from the link I indicated at the very start of this thread, I have not heard anything else. I´ll keep posting if I have updates from local press in Bolivia.
 
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RE: Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano Update

Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:30 pm

Yaaaay!!!

LB come back!!!

Hope to see you again in MEX!!

g77

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