theobcman
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The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:35 pm

Does anyone know where these aircraft are likely to end up and how many there actually are once BD are fully in with BA ?
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:55 pm

There are two and both will go at the end of October. One was supposed to go at the start of the month but BA put it on the LCA service which gave it a bit of an extension.
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:38 pm

Where are they going to though ?
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:41 pm

G-WWBD is being ferried LHR-BGR-SFB on 30th October as BD100 for storage.

G-WWBM is being returned to the lessor.

Quote:
There are two and both will go at the end of October. One was supposed to go at the start of the month but BA put it on the LCA service which gave it a bit of an extension.

Both were due to stay with bmi until the end of October even if the extra BA LCA flights were not picked up.

[Edited 2012-10-22 14:00:02]
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:43 pm

Quoting TCX69K (Reply 3):
G-WWBD is being ferried LHR-BGR-SFB on 30th October for storage.

Why would it make a fuel stop to go to Florida? Surely it can make it there nonstop
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:49 pm

Quoting TCX69K (Reply 3):
Both were due to stay with bmi until the end of October even if the extra BA LCA flights were not picked up.

One was due to be grounded.
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:58 pm

It's operating LHR-BGR on the 30th & then BGR-SFB on the 31st. Not sure as to why but yes it would be able to get there non-stop.
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:14 pm

Quoting TCX69K (Reply 6):
It's operating LHR-BGR on the 30th & then BGR-SFB on the 31st. Not sure as to why but yes it would be able to get there non-stop.

The aircraft is capable to fly non-stop but they stop at BGR as this is the first port of entry to the USA for customs, as BGR is being used for import declarations by US lessors
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:39 pm

Quoting BA174 (Reply 5):
One was due to be grounded.

It was actually parked up at LHR on 29 September after operating FNA-LHR (BD967).

It was then returned to service operating a daily LHR-LCA-LHR rotation (BA662/63) from 6 to 15 October to cover for a shortage of in-service 763s.

It was then wet leased to LH for a single LHR-TXL-LHR (LH3377/72) rotation over-nighting at TXL on 15/16 October.

O~n its return to LHR from TXL it was rededicated to the flights to and from LCA that it operated from 16 to 21 October.

On 22 October it operated to ALA (BD992) with the return flight due back at LHR early on 23rd.
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:27 pm

Its odd that that these frames are being parked considering how popular the A332s are with airlines. Looking at the interior photos it looks like they have quite recently been refurbished, so I doubt they will be parked for long.
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:09 pm

Quoting formigueta (Reply 7):
The aircraft is capable to fly non-stop but they stop at BGR as this is the first port of entry to the USA for customs, as BGR is being used for import declarations by US lessors

Why would you store a plane in Florida that was going to be put into servce again ? One would think that MHV,VCV or MZJ would have been moore appropriate.
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:14 pm

Quoting United_fan (Reply 10):
Why would you store a plane in Florida that was going to be put into servce again ? One would think that MHV,VCV or MZJ would have been moore appropriate.

If its going to be going back in to service soon, there's no need for the desert. Hence DUB and SNN hosting huge amounts of n/b craft while being rehomed.
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:34 pm

Quote:
Its odd that that these frames are being parked considering how popular the A332s are with airlines. Looking at the interior photos it looks like they have quite recently been refurbished, so I doubt they will be parked for long.

Well apparently G-WWBD is going to SFB to be scrapped! Hopefully this isn't true as it's only just under 12 years old, but I think it may well be the case.   
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:00 pm

I hope G-WWBD survives. I flew on it recently
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:42 pm

Quoting TCX69K (Reply 12):
Well apparently G-WWBD is going to SFB to be scrapped!

Really? I would be amazed at that. I cant imagine any BMI A330 airframe being particularly high on cycles even at 12 years old.

God they just dont build them like they used to, how old are some of BAs 747s????
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:59 pm

They recently scrapped an Aer Lingus A330-300 .EI-ORD. Maybe they're worth more as parts.
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:07 pm

Quoting TCX69K (Reply 12):

Well apparently G-WWBD is going to SFB to be scrapped! Hopefully this isn't true as it's only just under 12 years old, but I think it may well be the case.

It is not the first time a young airframe has been scrapped and wont be the last. I imagine it is one or a combination of the following:

The parts are worth more than the aircraft especially engines doors etc...
A "D" check is needed in order for it to return to active service
No buyer could be found (I imagine thats hardly the reason)

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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:10 pm

Quoting United_fan (Reply 15):
They recently scrapped an Aer Lingus A330-300 .EI-ORD. Maybe they're worth more as parts.

Ah EI-ORD...I know her well!!!!

This A330 was a very early off the line model having originally being delivered to Air Inter in 1994 (CN 59) and was intended for high density fast turnaround shorthaul operations. However it only did a number of these before being sent to Aer Lingus where it helped both Aer Lingus and Airbus gain full ETOPS clearance for A330 operations (my Dad was involved in this). As a nature of Aer Lingus operations at the time where so many flights to the states had to transit through Shannon these early EI 330s had very high cycles and where very heavily utilised by the airline.

It must be remembered that this was a very early development aircraft which was identical in nothing but appearance to new build A330s rolling off the production line now almost 20 years later. EI-ORD bless her was almost on her knees by the time EI took her out of service!
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:50 pm

G-WWBD is an absolute dog of an aircraft, the amount of times that plane has gone tech is ridiculous.

Having taken the LHR-RUH flight many times, I've had mechanical delays, cancellations and twice been subbed for an A321 with tech stop (once in Athens & once in Jeddah).

Not sure if it was shoddy maintenance or just bad luck, but I will not miss her!  
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:35 am

Slightly off-topic: Back in 2010, G-WWBB was transferred to SriLankan Airlines. Now registered 4R-ALG.

Quoting TCX69K (Reply 12):
Well apparently G-WWBD is going to SFB to be scrapped!

If it is confirmed that she is going to SFB, then scrapping is probably a given. Quite a few old A340s have been scrapped there.

Quoting bgm (Reply 18):
I will not miss her!

But she looks so good in the BMI livery! Seriously, I think BMI has the best looking A330s (or A320s for that matter) of any airline.
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:53 pm

Can't believe they are been scrapped, absolutely criminal... (That's in the eyes of an A330 fanboy!)

With such long waits for new A330's to be delivered, I thought another airline would have jumped on these. Especially the likes of Qatar or Emirates who are crying out for extra capacity.

Even if they were only leased for the short to medium term, to fill a gap until they got deliveries. Also Air Transat is in the market for second hand A330's, as they retire their A310's and switch to an entire A330 fleet.
 
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RE: The Fate Of Bmi A330's?

Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:03 pm

Well had it been G-WWBM due for scrapping, that would have been less of a surprise with its cracked undercarriage incident...
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