New AA Color Scheme Confirmed...painted - Part 3

etops1 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:55 am

I Hortons shot of him Boarding the aircraft . Hopefully that's his exit shot

CapEd388 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:56 am

Heres a little excerpt from an interview that Horton had with Dallas Morning News.

Heres his response when asked about the rebrand.

Quote:
DMN: When will you reveal your new branding? Will it be when the Boeing 777-300ER enters service? [Originally set for Dec. 13, the 777-300ER's entry into service is now postponed into late January.]

Horton: “Well, it wouldn’t be very sporting if I gave you the answer to that.

DMN: I’m just asking about the timing. I wasn’t asking you what it looks like. I was going to ask you that next.

Horton: “That wouldn’t be sporting either.

“It’ll be soon. We’ve been working on this for quite some time, in fact well before we entered restructuring. We’ve been thinking about the modernization of the brand. We’ve been thinking about all the new airplanes and the unique opportunity that it affords the company.

“And of course the new airplanes, many of them are composite or heavily composite, which means they don’t lend themselves to being bare metal.

“It’s something we’ve been working on as part of the overall refresh of the brand. Suffice it to say, we’re pretty excited about what we’ve got. I think the work has been fantastic. I think it coincides with a lot of great substance for our customers in terms of new products and services. So I think it’s going to be great. But stay tuned. ‘Soon’ is the word I would use.”

DMN: It doesn’t make sense to introduce a new airplane and then repaint it two weeks later, so I’ll make my own assumptions on that. But ‘soon’ and ‘stay tuned,’ I’m familiar with those phrases.

He really doesnt announce anything new, but he does insist that it is "soon".

Link to rest of interview

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/

just scroll down to where it says "Horton: Heavy lifting on bankruptcy case is about completed"

[Edited 2012-12-10 19:58:43]

American 767 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:16 am

Quoting jalapeno (Reply 194):
Any guesses on equipment?

It looks like it's the tail of a 737 (800 of course, since it's the only 737 American flies) that's hidden behind the black bag, if you observe closely. I can tell because the bottom of the tail looks like it has an angle before meeting the top of the fuselage, a feature that all 737s (from the 300 to the 900 variant) have. I'm not %100 positive, but that's what I think it is.

Ben Soriano

n737aa · Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:51 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 197):
IIRC flight will be AA9703... Its in DECS under extra flying summary for Tuesday.

This is the flight number assigned in the company computer (DECS), departing PAE at 1000 lcl arriving DFW at 1545 lcl....thats a 3:45min block time.

Happy spotting

N737AA

JoePatroni707 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:01 pm

IMHO I really dont think we will see the new colors today. Just 4 days ago airplane was seen as we have already seen (all grey).. I dont think 4 days is enough time. Remember EIS is still 6 weeks away AA has lots to do in order to get this airplane ready, training and further updating. So AA could be taking delivery now, and return in a few weeks for final painting just my opinion. I have been told (just rumor) new colors wont be till AA emerges from CH11, and we will see generic colors for the time being.

Also today AA will take delivery of another 737 3JV about the same time. Its been a long time since AA has taken two brand new birds on the same day. Both should arrive DWH this afternoon.

777STL · Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:06 pm

Yeah, the plane under the black bag does look like a 738. You can see the angular piece where the tail meets the fuselage.

gdg9 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:39 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 204):
Both should arrive DWH this afternoon.

DWH? Is this short for something else? I thought these were due at DFW. Anyone know the 737 flight number?

miaami · Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:01 pm

Flight numbers for today are

AA9703 777-300 PAE - DFW

AA9702 737-800 BFI - DFW

crAAzy · Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:13 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 204):
I have been told (just rumor) new colors wont be till AA emerges from CH11, and we will see generic colors for the time being.

Considering AA is asking for an extension into March 2013 now and the 77W should be flying scheduled service months before then I highly doubt they'll be waiting post BK. Seems like an announcement/roll out shortly after the new year seems more appropriate at this point.

Dtw757 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:27 pm

The 737 flight is scheduled to leave BFI in a few minutes. Anyone there with a camera? It's probably in the old colors is my guess.

rj777 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:37 pm

HMMMM............. if that tarp was over the 737...... maybe Horton was being deceitful when he said the new colors were going to be unveiled on the 77W?

FWAERJ · Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:49 pm

Quoting rj777 (Reply 210):

HMMMM............. if that tarp was over the 737...... maybe Horton was being deceitful when he said the new colors were going to be unveiled on the 77W?

Maybe it will be a simultaneous launch on the 738 and 77W. Just my guess.

After all, NW simultaneously launched their final livery on several fleet types.

[Edited 2012-12-11 09:52:06]

panam330 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:53 pm

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lostsound · Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:58 pm

Quoting rj777 (Reply 210):

HMMMM............. if that tarp was over the 737...... maybe Horton was being deceitful when he said the new colors were going to be unveiled on the 77W?

Well both aircraft are supposedly flying to DFW today. I'd say we're looking at a dual aircraft livery reveal.

That 737 can't be flying with a tarp. Any spotters catch her in the 777's livery?

[Edited 2012-12-11 10:00:19]

deltaffindfw · Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:13 pm

According to AA.com, flight 9703 is going to Hangar 5. (Terminal H, Gate HGR 5)

JoePatroni707 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:37 pm

This suspense is driving me nuts... Meanwhile the AA execs are laughing at us A.Netters going nuts...

I really dont think we will see anything today, just IMHO. The 737 will for sure be in old colours, and the 777 will likely be a temporary generic livery. Remember the 777 was just seen on the 6th in all grey. Is 3-4 days enough to completely repaint in a new livery???

NYCAAer · Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:52 pm

AA just made a press release concerning the delivery of the 77W today. It's been delivered in the blank gray fuselage and white tail. The press release says the the 77W will feature "a freshly painted livery," but that's it. Very anti-climactic, I think.

n737aa · Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:53 pm

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 206):
DWH? Is this short for something else? I thought these were due at DFW. Anyone know the 737 flight number?

DWH is the old Delta hangar 5 on the East side of the field between 17C/35C and 17L/35R off PAPPA.

YYZbound · Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:55 pm

Well for what it's worth...here's the posted photo of the new First Class on it

http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnfull/20121211/DA27769

817Dreamliiner · Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:59 pm

Quoting YYZBound (Reply 218):

Well for what it's worth...here's the posted photo of the new First Class on it

http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnfull/20121211/DA27769

Saw it posted a while ago... looks nice in my opinion!

lostsound · Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:03 pm

More interior images on the AA facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/AmericanAirlines

ABQopsHP · Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:16 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 219):
Quoting YYZBound (Reply 218):

Well for what it's worth...here's the posted photo of the new First Class on it

http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnfull/20121211/DA27769

Saw it posted a while ago... looks nice in my opinion!

On closer look of the F-class seats. I know they may be those new light weight cushions. However they give the cabin a bit of a cheap look to it. The seats appear too firm to me. Too bad more had not gone into the detail.

Or am I being picky?

JD CRP

Hamlet69 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:21 pm

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but has anyone else considered that beneath that black tarped tail is. . . the current AA livery?

It does very much look like a 737 tail. So how hard would it really be to pull a 737 into a maintenance hanger overnight, tarp the tail section, shoot the quick 3-second video shot, then untarp it and shoot it back into the rotation?

Hamlet69

lostsound · Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting ABQopsHP (Reply 221):
On closer look of the F-class seats. I know they may be those new light weight cushions. However they give the cabin a bit of a cheap look to it. The seats appear too firm to me. Too bad more had not gone into the detail.

Or am I being picky?

They look fine to me. Then again, premium economy would be fancy to me. :P

817Dreamliiner · Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting ABQopsHP (Reply 221):
However they give the cabin a bit of a cheap look to it. The seats appear too firm to me. Too bad more had not gone into the detail.

Or am I being picky?

Well thats your opinion, nothing wrong with that of course

I think it looks fine.

gdg9 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:00 pm

Well it looks like the 773 won't arrive until 530pm or later, so with sunset at 520ish, no photos today upon arrival. I can still catch the 738 if it arrives on the West Side at least.

jalapeno · Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:25 pm

Looks like the 738 will land on 13R most likely.

ldvaviation · Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:27 pm

Quoting ABQopsHP (Reply 221):
On closer look of the F-class seats. I know they may be those new light weight cushions. However they give the cabin a bit of a cheap look to it. The seats appear too firm to me. Too bad more had not gone into the detail.

Or am I being picky?

Definitely not cheap. This is what I notice...

The bottom portion of the seat is wider than the current seat as evidenced by the bottom flap of the seat. This is made clearer by the width of the ottoman under the new location for the monitor.

The shell of the seat is also taller. That is indicated by the relation of the seat to to the monitor. Hence, these seats will have a greater sense of privacy.

As to the details, the aluminum trim on the seats is quite elegant and sleek. AA may have shelved the polished metal exterior, but the trim is a nice gesture to the legacy of that and even to the aesthetic (streamline moderne) from which the idea might have come in the first place. (I think the J-class seats will have similar trim, though in a matte finish.)

The finish on the back bulkhead is also something new. Unlike the bold graphics of the past, it is a veneer suggesting a paneled wall or striated wallpaper. Can't wait to see how they achieved the almost translucent look. In fact, all the patterns and colors in the cabin complement each other quite nicely, giving the cabin as a whole a very premium, somewhat retro, yet contemporary look.

AA now has the best international first class of any US airline and I would argue it is even on par with BA's.

[Edited 2012-12-11 12:50:20]

JoePatroni707 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:37 pm

The 777-300 is in the air and on its way to DFW! But as said it will be all grey for now.

AAIL86 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:40 pm

Quoting ABQopsHP (Reply 221):
On closer look of the F-class seats. I know they may be those new light weight cushions. However they give the cabin a bit of a cheap look to it. The seats appear too firm to me. Too bad more had not gone into the detail.

Or am I being picky?

The current AA F seat on the 77E is quite comfortable - having taken a few long haul flights in them myself. I can't imagine that this slightly updated version is worse then the current product ...

TwoSixLeft · Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:43 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 228):

Albeit after a 90-minute delay at PAE... does anyone know what the hold-up was? Are these delays common in delivery flights?

KarelXWB · Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:45 pm

Following N717AN http://fr24.com/N717AN

n737aa · Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:09 pm

Quoting TwoSixLeft (Reply 230):
Albeit after a 90-minute delay at PAE... does anyone know what the hold-up was? Are these delays common in delivery flights?

Yes quite common.

N737AA

gdg9 · Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:22 pm

Quoting jalapeno (Reply 226):
Looks like the 738 will land on 13R most likely.

Sure enough it landed on 17. A group of us were waiting and watched it float in at 420pm.

SXDFC · Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:33 pm

Quoting jalapeno (Reply 226):
Looks like the 738 will land on 13R most likely.

Is the 738 painted in the same colors as the 773?

N766UA · Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:06 am

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 234):
Is the 738 painted in the same colors as the 773?

The 773 is grey.

jalapeno · Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:43 am

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 233):
Sure enough it landed on 17. A group of us were waiting and watched it float in at 420pm.

Yup, I missed it. Waited by the cemetery, bummer!

tguman · Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:01 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 235):
The 773 is grey

Was that a typo? The question was whether the 737-800 was painted the same as the 777-300ER. so are you saying that the 777-300ER was grey with white tail, or that the 737-800 was also grey with white tail.

TGUman

SXDFC · Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:58 am

Quoting tguman (Reply 237):
Was that a typo? The question was whether the 737-800 was painted the same as the 777-300ER. so are you saying that the 777-300ER was grey with white tail, or that the 737-800 was also grey with white tail.

What I wanted to know is if the brand new 737-800 will be wearing the same colors as on the 777-300ER.

N766UA · Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:59 am

Quoting tguman (Reply 237):
so are you saying that the 777-300ER was grey with white tail, or that the 737-800 was also grey with white tail.

I'm saying the 773 is grey, as in not painted yet, and the 738 is in the familiar silver.

scbriml · Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:13 pm

Quoting N766UA (Reply 239):
I'm saying the 773 is grey, as in not painted yet

If the 777-300ER is grey, as opposed to bare metal, then it is painted.

lostsound · Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:43 pm

Looks like that's the 737-800 in the background, full current AA livery.

817Dreamliiner · Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:51 pm

Matt Cawby just tweeted that N718AN is now painted like N717AN.

N766UA · Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:57 pm

Quoting scbriml (Reply 240):
If the 777-300ER is grey, as opposed to bare metal, then it is painted.

Unfinished then lol.

EricR · Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:13 pm

According to this article from USA Today, we should know what the new livery looks like before January 31st.

"The airline said Tuesday that the Boeing 777-300ER will go into service Jan. 31 between Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport and Sao Paulo, Brazil. Before then, it will get a paint job. American Airlines spokesman Mike Trevino declined to hint at the new livery, which might not seem like a big deal to most travelers but is the stuff of eager speculation among aviation geeks.".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...usa-to-get-new-boeing-777/1764461/

iFlyLOTs · Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:51 pm

Quoting EricR (Reply 244):
which might not seem like a big deal to most travelers but is the stuff of eager speculation among aviation geeks.".

They're on to us!

PHX787 · Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:12 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 242):
Matt Cawby just tweeted that N718AN is now painted like N717AN.

Were any photos included in this?

Mcmax · Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:02 am

I've been reading with amusement all the speculation about the new livery, and the supposed grey fuselage with the white QF-like tail. I guess I can add my speculation to this, but I suspect the white tail is merely a primer-like coat, and that the tail will be fully painted with a background color (I'm guessing mainly blue with a hint of red). I don't believe the tail will remain primarily a white background.

--Max

blink182 · Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:04 am

Will AA fly the aircraft around for a week or two between hubs for crew familiarization/PR, or is this considered to be identical to the 77E with the exception of additional crew and thus require no special treatment?

817Dreamliiner · Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:11 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 246):
Were any photos included in this?

Yes, but he tweeted another pic of it a couple hours ago:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8267924281/

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