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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:38 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 98):
Here are my guesses....
TPA
MSY
BZE
BGI (I say this based on the success of POS and BGI is pushing hard there).

A surprise may be CLT

Maybe we can add DEN to the list...... you never know, and a few years ago the airport management at DEN stated they were in talks with CM to PTY, and it does take a while for carriers and their birds to materialize at DEN with actual flights, but it does happen...... and I guess it could be considered a hub to hub route......

 
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:53 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 98):
Here are my guesses....
TPA
MSY
BZE
BGI (I say this based on the success of POS and BGI is pushing hard there).

A surprise may be CLT

If CM is going to send any surplus MCO traffic to TPA to fill the PTY hub - TPA O/D, TPA could perform well.
MSY is desperate for a link with Latin America, but if it was based solely on O/D it'd rather be SAP.
BZE IMHO, a question of time..
BGI If CM can't get someone in South America to block a sizable amount of seats on each flight, I'd guess CM may rather choose GEO over BGI, however I'd like to see both as CM destinations this year.
CLT sounds interesting if US Airways doesn't want to fly to PTY. I bet the O/D Latin America traffic @ RDU is bigger than CLT. As for CM in ATL.. perhaps yes, perhaps no..

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 99):
100% agree !!! CCS and MEX will be at the top

Don't agree, YYZ and EZE will be at the top.
Something still could be done for CCS via MDE and BOG. MAR might get flight from BOG.
As for MEX, I don't see Mexico allowing any more CM flights into MEX anytime soon and I'm not sure if Mexico will allow CM to move some of the allocated frequencies to PVR and SJC to TLC as an option to increase frequencies to Mexico City.

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I will add PMV (to get further CCS frequencies)

I've the opinion that Venezuela won't allow CM more PTY-CCS/MAR frequencies (at least this year), if CM wants to play the flights to PMV card, what it probably would get could be a couple of frequencies to PZO and probably BRM too.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:11 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 101):

Don't forget msy is a big shipping town so a link with pty could work.
Maybe pty-sap-msy
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:35 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 102):
Don't forget msy is a big shipping town so a link with pty could work.
Maybe pty-sap-msy

The only one-stop CM service to the U.S.A. I can imagine would be PTY-XXX-SEA (XXX most likely GUA) as PTY-XXX-SFO may not be a product CM want on its routes and PTY-XXX-PDX may not have the PDX O/D needed, specially if CM was to try PTY-XXX-SEA.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:59 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 103):
The only one-stop CM service to the U.S.A. I can imagine would be PTY-XXX-SEA (XXX most likely GUA)

According to GCmap GUA-SEA is 2526 nm, I think that Boeing 737-700 or 737-800 airplane could be weight restricted remember GUA is at 5000 feet above sea level and has a 3km runway.

My brother works at United and tells me that the 737-800 sometimes goes weight restricted to EWR, that is not the case to IAH and that route is only 1782 nm.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:23 pm

Didn't we establish some threads ago that a cm 73g would also be weight restricted on a hypothetical pty - sfo?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:05 pm

Quoting juanchito (Reply 104):
According to GCmap GUA-SEA is 2526 nm, I think that Boeing 737-700 or 737-800 airplane could be weight restricted remember GUA is at 5000 feet above sea level and has a 3km runway.

As CM is decreasing the number of B737-700 on its fleet, it's quite doubtful when CM decides to fly to SEA it'll have lots of those to fly the route via GUA. IMHO, probably the -700 may be able to take-off from GUA to SEA 2526nm non-stop, if not that's a route for a B737-600.   

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 105):
Didn't we establish some threads ago that a cm 73g would also be weight restricted on a hypothetical pty - sfo?

I believe we did, although similar distances PTY-SFO and MVD-PTY, the south-east to north-west PTY-SFO routing may encounter head-winds and possible long landing waiting times @ SFO which may jeopardise the B737-700 performance if flying with no weight restrictions.
I believe CM could get away with flying B737-700 PTY-SFO if among those B737 scheduled for delivery soon is a B737-700 w/Sky interior and a configuration with more C class seats / less Y than the other B737-700 on its fleet and that SFO bound flight departs from the CM hub bank when PTY temperature may be at its lowest.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:28 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 106):
I believe we did, although similar distances PTY-SFO and MVD-PTY, the south-east to north-west PTY-SFO routing may encounter head-winds and possible long landing waiting times @ SFO which may jeopardise the B737-700 performance if flying with no weight restrictions.
I believe CM could get away with flying B737-700 PTY-SFO if among those B737 scheduled for delivery soon is a B737-700 w/Sky interior and a configuration with more C class seats / less Y than the other B737-700 on its fleet and that SFO bound flight departs from the CM hub bank when PTY temperature may be at its lowest.

Something that should be consider is that SFO airspace is a lot more congested than MVD, this could affect this operation.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:20 pm

Quoting juanchito (Reply 107):
Something that should be consider is that SFO airspace is a lot more congested than MVD, this could affect this operation.

We agree that we're aware of that.
I could imagine the area around SJC could provide interesting Latin America O/D traffic due to Silicon valley, plus other Bay Area (San Francisco included) and SJC just got NH to NRT, but sure CM isn't the kind of airline that would fly PTY-SJC and market it as San Francisco San Jose Airport.
Look what happen with CM to BOS, CM chose to fly to BOS and it's going to left its B737 on BOS tarmac very long when instead they could have flown to PVD daytime w/quick turn-around, save some $$ and market it as flying to Boston Providence Airport. And PVD does have direct rail-link to central Boston.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:20 am

Quoting juanchito (Reply 107):
Something that should be consider is that SFO airspace is a lot more congested than MVD


In terms of distance, the PTY-SFO sector is practically the same compared to the current PTY-EZE which is currently served with the modern 738 every day.
The PTY-SFO segment sounds like a smart idea for the Panamanian airline and disregarding both wind and congestion issues in the Bay area.
Both TACA and LAN have demonstrated the sustainability of their operations in San Francisco.




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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 102):
Maybe pty-sap-msy


I recognize the existence of the O&D market between San Pedro Sula and New Orleans as TACA usually deploys charter services in such route.
However, Copa Airlines doesn't operate tag-on routes besides their Central American inner routes.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:23 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 101):
I don't see Mexico allowing any more CM flights into MEX anytime soon

that's my point before about CM getting the 737-900 to add capacity within the same frequencies  



as per airfleets, in late 2012 CM transfered out a fairly new 738 to DD (Nok Air, S/N 29670, ex HP-1529CMP, now HS-DBF) ..I'm a bit surprise since CM trends to hold on their frames a bit longer, was this a leased unit ? any idea how many more might follow ?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:39 am

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 110):
that's my point before about CM getting the 737-900 to add capacity within the same frequencies

It's very likely CM is more desperate to add seats to YYZ and EZE than to MEX.

Quote:
as per airfleets, in late 2012 CM transfered out a fairly new 738 to DD (Nok Air, S/N 29670, ex HP-1529CMP, now HS-DBF) ..I'm a bit surprise since CM trends to hold on their frames a bit longer, was this a leased unit ? any idea how many more might follow ?

Was the 1st B737-800 CM got (before Sky interior)?
If it was that one, then CM tested the configuration and didn't work well so CM chose to transfer it rather than re-configure it.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 109):
The PTY-SFO segment sounds like a smart idea for the Panamanian airline

And the like-hood CM will fly it before UA does it is quite high.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:48 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 111):
And the like-hood CM will fly it before UA does it is quite high.


I think so. The new expansion of United Airlines in Central America is rather aiming for flights departing out of both IAD and ORD: UA IAD-SAL, UA IAD-GUA, UA IAD-SJO and UA ORD-SJO.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:54 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 112):
The new expansion of United Airlines in Central America is rather aiming for flights departing out of both IAD and ORD

Surprisingly there's no UA interest in flying SFO-GUA/SAL.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:57 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 113):
Surprisingly there's no UA interest in flying SFO-GUA/SAL.


The former United Airlines rather discontinued UA LAX-GUA and UA LAX-SAL some years backward.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:42 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 111):

Was the 1st B737-800 CM got (before Sky interior)?

29670 was not really the first one .. there are several older 738

from airfleets, CM got 2 different Embraer 190 "types "; 190IGW (7 units) & 190AR (7 units) , also CM Coolmbia got these models + 190LR , not sure what's the difference on use for the different types, any idea ? thanks,  
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:18 am

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 115):
from airfleets, CM got 2 different Embraer 190 "types "; 190IGW (7 units) & 190AR (7 units) , also CM Coolmbia got these models + 190LR , not sure what's the difference on use for the different types, any idea ? thanks
www.embraer.com.br shows that there's difference between the range of an E190AR and an E190LR, probably has to do with fuel tanks and/or weight.
What I know is that is a common complain from CM Colombia (P5) passengers that the Colombian jets don't have business class seats.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:55 pm

Copa Airlines does operate their E90s in cities out of Panama City as far as Guadalajara and Manaus.
The autonomy of each plane depends on the version:

E190 IGW: 1 800 nm; standard version
E190 LR: 2 300 nm
E190 AR: 2 400 nm

The maximum takeoff weight also changes depending on the version.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:31 pm

Range circle 2300nm out of PTY, with some CM current routes know to be flown w/E190

That's a big chunk of the western hemisphere.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:14 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 91):
Base on the link in an earlier post I would say FLL/JFK-GUA/PTY are definitely in the cards


Are you sure with this statement related to the expansion of jetBlue in Central America ?
I would say Spirit Airlines is struggling into Guatemala City and Panama City in their flights out of Ft. Lauderdale.
Let's take a look at their current frequencies: NK FLL-GUA 4x weekly, NK FLL-PTY 3x weekly.
Their fares are not exactly cheaper than the services offered by their competitors heading to Miami: American Airlines in both stations and [TACA [Guatemala City] + Copa Airlines [Panama City]].
Furthermore, the weekly frequencies on both NK FLL-GUA and NK FLL-PTY were higher in the past and it's not the best landscape for a new competitor in such routes.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:17 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 119):
Are you sure with this statement related to the expansion of jetBlue in Central America ?

It is not my statement it is B6s (John Checketts). He specifically mentions GUA and PTY, You can read it here.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-america-and-the-caribbean-381426/
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:35 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 120):
it is B6s (John Checketts).


Point taken.
However, I even found strange the incursion of any B6 FLL-PTY and B6 FLL-GUA.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:45 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 121):
However, I even found strange the incursion of any B6 FLL-PTY and B6 FLL-GUA.

I'd think a possible CM PTY-FLL (specially if E190) would outperform any B6 FLL-PTY.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:15 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 122):

Are you sure? If B6 have lower fares than CM or AA, VFR O/D will fly with them and not with CM and AA.
Premium customers will continue flying CM or AA.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:44 pm

Quoting SHAQ (Reply 123):
Are you sure? If B6 have lower fares than CM or AA, VFR O/D will fly with them and not with CM and AA.
Premium customers will continue flying CM or AA.

Premium CM customers around FLL (read Aventura) would jump at the chance of flying out of FLL to PTY and anywhere CM may connect them.
One could always dream Mileage Plus passengers would earn miles and get award flights on B6 FLL-PTY.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:23 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 122):
I'd think a possible CM PTY-FLL (specially if E190) would outperform any B6 FLL-PTY.


Agreed.
The same reason about the low possibility of the incursion of any B6 MCO-PTY, taking into account CM PTY-MCO 28x weekly from July 02nd.
I think the current environment at PTY doesn't give advantage to jetBlue.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:54 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 125):
I think the current environment at PTY doesn't give advantage to jetBlue.

Unless B6 is to offer a product or destination not already offered by CM and best if Mileage Plus members are to earn miles on those flights.
So there still could be room for evening JFK-PTY + red-eyes PTY-JFK and/or red-eyes JFK-PTY + 0600h PTY-JFK, also evenings FLL-PTY, 0600h PTY-FLL.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:02 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 122):
I'd think a possible CM PTY-FLL (specially if E190) would outperform any B6 FLL-PTY.
Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 126):
Unless B6 is to offer a product or destination not already offered by CM and best if Mileage Plus members are to earn miles on those flights.
So there still could be room for evening JFK-PTY + red-eyes PTY-JFK and/or red-eyes JFK-PTY + 0600h PTY-JFK, also evenings FLL-PTY, 0600h PTY-FLL.

B6 would do just fine against CM
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:15 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 127):
B6 would do just fine against CM

B6 Schedule will play a big part on its success in PTY.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:47 pm

I keep on repeating: what would it be the innovation for any B6 FLL-PTY?
NK FLL-PTY 3x weekly already flies following the red-eye schedule allocation and trying to avoid CM PTY-MIA 33x weekly and AA MIA-PTY 21x weekly which are mostly operating as daylight flights.
The MIA-PTY sector is actually a bulky market; however, NK FLL-PTY 3x weekly has not demonstrated progress in their services linking Panama City and South Florida.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:10 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 129):
NK FLL-PTY 3x weekly has not demonstrated progress in their services linking Panama City and South Florida.

NK's failure /success in the market has zero bearing on any possible B6 success / failure. They draw two different kinds of clientele
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:23 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 129):
CM PTY-MIA 33x weekly and AA MIA-PTY 21x weekly which are mostly operating as daylight flights.

Looks like CM and AA might get some (token) competition on PTY-MIA. Boliviana has applied for VVI-PTY-MIA daily using 733s
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:38 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 131):
Looks like CM and AA might get some (token) competition on PTY-MIA. Boliviana has applied for VVI-PTY-MIA daily using 733s

That looks more like competition for NK FLL-PTY, specially if Boliviana is to fly the route with the same former Lloyd Aereo Boliviano schedule.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:12 pm

BZE airport authority have said that they are adding 10K sq feet of departure area inside security plus an additional departure gate......this will mean a longer walk for the pax arriving on domestic flights to the check-in area for the international carriers as the domestic arrivals (for those familiar with BZE) will now move further east.

Work is to commence pretty quickly and definitely needed for any new carriers (B6, CM, WN etc) and for existing carriers who have been asking for more space (like DL and UA).
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:39 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 131):
Looks like CM and AA might get some (token) competition on PTY-MIA. Boliviana has applied for VVI-PTY-MIA daily using 733s

Bolivian airlines don't have traffic rights U.S.-Panama.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:21 am

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 134):
Bolivian airlines don't have traffic rights U.S.-Panama.

If the only wanted the tech-stop why then don't look elsewhere, like an airport on VVI-MIA route with no Bolivia traffic?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:25 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 135):
If the only wanted the tech-stop why then don't look elsewhere, like an airport on VVI-MIA route with no Bolivia traffic?

Look at a map. It's almost exactly on the direct MIAVVI routing. BOG is the only airport on a more direct routing, but why bother with that airport's altitude/weather issues when PTY is superior.

Just doing the same as LAB and AeroSur - flying via PTY with no MIAPTY traffic rights.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:25 am

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 136):
Just doing the same as LAB and AeroSur - flying via PTY with no MIAPTY traffic rights.

given the political relations between Bolivia and Venezuela I'm quite surprise they didn't stop there.. anyway, PTY will be very happy to take their money  
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:32 pm

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 136):
Just doing the same as LAB and AeroSur - flying via PTY with no MIAPTY traffic rights.

As far as I know AeroSur never made it to PTY.

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 137):
given the political relations between Bolivia and Venezuela I'm quite surprise they didn't stop there

Boliviana has far greater chance of getting 5th freedom rights from CCS to MIA. than G3 which applied for that and didn't get it. A Conviasa code-share and voila!
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:43 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 133):
BZE airport authority have said that they are adding 10K sq feet of departure area inside security plus an additional departure gate......this will mean a longer walk for the pax arriving on domestic flights to the check-in area for the international carriers as the domestic arrivals (for those familiar with BZE) will now move further east.

Wouldn't that just about double the size of it?

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:21 pm

Quoting LAXLocal (Reply 139):
Wouldn't that just about double the size of it?

Currently it is 6 departure gates.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:20 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 138):
Boliviana has far greater chance of getting 5th freedom rights from CCS to MIA. than G3 which applied for that and didn't get it


That's why G3 opted for SDQ instead.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:29 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 141):
That's why G3 opted for SDQ instead.

And for what I read on the Caribbean tread, G# isn't doing that good.

Talking about Brazil, an American charter company, Vision Air, will be operating flights between Brazil and BLB Howard airport for holiday programmes at hotels located close to MPRH Rio Hato Airport.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:31 pm

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 137):
given the political relations between Bolivia and Venezuela I'm quite surprise they didn't stop there.. anyway, PTY will be very happy to take their money  

Once, on a Lloyd flight MIA-VVI, because of an equipment change (to a 727) we had to make an unscheduled fuel stop at CCS. I don´t know why CCS was selected that night...

Lloyd's flight to PTY continued on to CUN, at least that is how I remember it... the schedule out of PTY was truly horrible. That flight was great though to fly to deep south america before CM's expansion.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:12 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 140):
Currently it is 6 departure gates.

I mean almost double the sqft , of the existing size of the international lounge.


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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:31 pm

So I am taking bets on the first new route for 2012 announcement involving Central America.....
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:44 am

AeroMexico by means of AeroMexico Connect is serving some Central American cities: Guatemala City, San Salvador and San Pedro Sula whilst AeroMexico mainline operates in San Jose.
CM PTY-MEX 28x weekly with 738 bears the AM designator in all their flights. The big question consists if AM mainline is willing to fly someday at PTY using their own planes?

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:02 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 146):
AeroMexico by means of AeroMexico Connect is serving some Central American cities: Guatemala City, San Salvador and San Pedro Sula whilst AeroMexico mainline operates in San Jose.

SAL-MEX was downgraded from an E-jet to an ERJ-145 because of low loads..so clearly AV/TA is winning that battle
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:52 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 147):
SAL-MEX was downgraded from an E-jet to an ERJ-145 because of low loads..so clearly AV/TA is winning that battle

In GUA Taca has now just 2 weekly flights I think this flight will disappear.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 51

Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:45 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 145):
So I am taking bets on the first new route for 2012 announcement involving Central America.....

2013.. AS LAX–LIR, WN HOU–SJO.   

[Edited 2013-02-14 15:54:45]
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