|Quoting miller22 (Reply 83):|
Don't confuse profitability with network routing. DFW-GRU is so popular because of the local base, not the connecting base. O&D non-stop passengers are always preferred since you only divide the cost of their ticket by one flight.
In fact, what your suggesting further strengthens the point that AA is keeping DFW smaller than the market and hub it deserves to be. I don't question if DFW-GRU is extremely popular. But if it is, then why isn't AA adding to that route? The answer is clear: they don't want to cannibalize MIA. That's what it all comes down to. How much will AA route around CLT because it's not the preferred launching point? As you just pointed out, they seem to be willing to route a lot around DFW, even though it's such a large market. Just for grins, I took a look at markets into GRU. MCO is a larger GRU market than DFW.
You made a blanket statement service to Latin American from DFW
is "almost non-existent outside of Mexico", which is simply and massively false. Since that claim was questioned, the backpedaling has begun with your subsequent claim that you meant to say DFW
is just underserved to Latin America....
is daily with a 772 all year and twice daily 763/772 at peak periods. Compare that to DL
's 764 on ATL
's 762 on IAH
.... and those are DL
/UA's primary Latin gateways. In fact, the premium cabins do so well on DFW
is deploying their flagship 77W first on this route - before other high routes like DFW
etc. I don't doubt that DFW
will continue to add service to Latin America, but I don't buy that its currently underserved by a big margin, either, especially given that DFW
isn't the primary gateway.
The main question we were debating about CLT
is if MSA data correlates 1:1 to O&D, which both LAXdude and I have disagreed with - on the basis that different populations have different needs, and I used the example of CHM vs CLT
to prove my point - a point you did not respond to in your reply.
|Quoting USAirALB (Reply 87):|
People keep saying "AA". You do know that if AA/US merge, "AA" will be US Airways, just with a different livery and name. Nothing will change except the name and the livery, US Airways will be running the airline, and US has been known to favor CLT.
To say MIA will replace CLT as a hub is absurd.
Well, for one thing over 70% of the employees will come from American, and the headquarters will be the Centreport complex with some random heads from US Airways thrown in. We as yet don't know who will be the acquiring carrier or how much influence each group will have, but but based on those variables alone - AA
's culture will be the surviving one. As a former AAer and as much as I love AA
, I'm not sure if that's even the best solution or not, but it will be the outcome nonetheless.
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