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Monumental Day In DL's History

Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:16 pm

Today marks the 30th anniversary of the culmination of "Project 767", in which DL employees donated DL's first, new 767-200 to the company..............



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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:21 pm

I flew on her when she was wearing the 75th Anniversary colors.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:32 pm

If I'd only taken that SDC offered at the check-in kiosk at LGA in Nov/06, I could have ridden on her. But didn't see she was at the gate until too late. Darnit.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:06 pm

That 767 looks amazing in the old Delta livery!
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:11 am

I flew on one of the farewell flights from JFK to BOS. The only time I have ever been in a flight deck inflight. It was very cool.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:04 am

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 3):
That 767 looks amazing in the old Delta livery!

Still does:


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I never got the chance to fly on this a/c as in the time I worked for ASA and got to fly on DL, I flew on one 762 and it wasn't this a/c.
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:08 am

You can still visit this plane at the Delta Air Lines Museum at Delta's HQ in Atlanta. Non-employees have to call ahead to make arrangements, but admission is free. The gift shop used to be the cockpit of an L1011...definitely worth checking out.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:18 am

Quoting srbmod (Reply 5):
Still does:
Quoting N867DA (Reply 6):
You can still visit this plane at the Delta Air Lines Museum at Delta's HQ in Atlanta.

It's great to see such pride in an aircraft!  
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:07 am

I wish they would go back to that livery. Classic, clean, and stately.
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:44 am

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 1):
I flew on her when she was wearing the 75th Anniversary colors.

I've always considered the 762 a male aircraft due to its stubby appearance. The 763 and 764 (especially the 764) can be considered female though.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:51 am

I recall seeing her fly into BOS circa 2006/2007(?) when I was working the ramp and the pilots were waving the US flag out the windows.

Don't remember the occasion, but it was a great site to see!
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:02 am

I was at ATL a few months ago and walked through that bird. The display that they have inside of it is amazing and well worth visiting along w/ the other parts of the museum.
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:26 am

True or false:

This was the only aircraft that wasn't put up for collateral during DL's bankruptcy.

Does anyone know?
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:40 am

Quoting ocracoke (Reply 12):
This was the only aircraft that wasn't put up for collateral during DL's bankruptcy.

Does anyone know?

True, but they had to "devalue" the aircraft by removing LRUs and major components to satisfy the bankruptcy court. It looks like a complete airplane, but a lot of non-visible components are no longer there.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:40 am

Quoting ocracoke (Reply 12):
True or false:

This was the only aircraft that wasn't put up for collateral during DL's bankruptcy.

Does anyone know?

I would imagine it wasn't as ownership was signed over to the museum (I believe) during DL's bankruptcy.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:48 pm

I flew in her from ATL to New Orleans, on May 4, 2003.
I don't think it occurred to me at the time that it was the plane the
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:03 pm

Oh, Man. The 767. 30 years ago? Isn't DL one of the few global carriers (beyond others from North America) to STILL fly the 767 on long-haul routes?
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:24 pm

Quoting ocracoke (Reply 12):
This was the only aircraft that wasn't put up for collateral during DL's bankruptcy.

The financial institutions wanted it sold. Boeing was DLs largest creditor and was able to use their influence to allow DL to keep her.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:33 pm

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 16):
Isn't DL one of the few global carriers (beyond others from North America) to STILL fly the 767 on long-haul routes?

Well,

* Austrian
* Arkefly
* LOT

Come to mind.
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:09 pm

Very historical indeed. But it's a bit of a sad shame that this aircraft is locked up in a hangar collecting bird poop. It's a bit of a discrace to the paint scheme. However, it is nice that there is a place on this planet we can go to see the best livery that was ever created. Maybe it's time to do a new retro look on, say , a 777?  
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:20 pm

Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 19):
But it's a bit of a sad shame that this aircraft is locked up in a hangar collecting bird poop.

Well it is alot better than it being scrapped, plus it looks as if it is well taken care for.

Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 19):
Maybe it's time to do a new retro look on, say , a 777?

Yes! Isn't Delta one of the only airlines not to have a retro livery aircraft at the moment?
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:38 pm

I wonder if something like that could happen again, i.e. employees gathering funds to buy their employers (and shareholders) a new plane. The airline industry has changed so much since the time when Delta received this airplane, sentiments and circumstances are so different today. Impressive nevertheless that DL employees did this back then.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:38 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 18):
Well,

* Austrian
* Arkefly
* LOT

Come to mind.

You can add Thomson, Thomas Cook, British Airways, Aeroflot, JAL, ANA, TAM, LAN, El Al, and many others to that list.

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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:48 pm

Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 19):

Very historical indeed. But it's a bit of a sad shame that this aircraft is locked up in a hangar collecting bird poop.

???

It's in a museum... I can't think of a better place for a retired aircraft to be. Minus the DC-3 they have, ALL of DL's planes are gone somehow. The museum is nice... small, but it's free and run by volunteers. Anyone and everyone is allowed to go.
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:59 pm

Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 19):
Very historical indeed. But it's a bit of a sad shame that this aircraft is locked up in a hangar collecting bird poop. It's a bit of a discrace to the paint scheme. However, it is nice that there is a place on this planet we can go to see the best livery that was ever created. Maybe it's time to do a new retro look on, say , a 777?

Hardly collecting bird poop, no more than the a/c at the Museum of Flight, do.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 23):
Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 19):

Very historical indeed. But it's a bit of a sad shame that this aircraft is locked up in a hangar collecting bird poop.

???

It's in a museum... I can't think of a better place for a retired aircraft to be. Minus the DC-3 they have, ALL of DL's planes are gone somehow. The museum is nice... small, but it's free and run by volunteers. Anyone and everyone is allowed to go.

The Travelair is still there. The Duster, I believe, is at the Smithsonian. There me be a Northeast a/c from the 30s at the Delta museum, also.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:09 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 24):
The Travelair is still there. The Duster, I believe, is at the Smithsonian. There me be a Northeast a/c from the 30s at the Delta museum, also.

That's right, forgot about the hanging aircraft. I think I remember seeing one or two hanging. Then, as mentioned, the gutted L-1011 turned into a gift shop is very cool. I still think it's very cool that they kept the DC-3 and 767 in flying shape, I've seen them in Peachtree City, GA at the airshow. Very cool seeing a DC-3 fly around
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:17 pm

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 25):
That's right, forgot about the hanging aircraft. I think I remember seeing one or two hanging. Then, as mentioned, the gutted L-1011 turned into a gift shop is very cool. I still think it's very cool that they kept the DC-3 and 767 in flying shape, I've seen them in Peachtree City, GA at the airshow. Very cool seeing a DC-3 fly around

I don't think the Travelair is hanging. It's in flying condition and, as I recall, when we celebrated the 75th anniversary a few years ago, it went on a small tour in the southeast and east. The DC-3 hasn't been on tour for awhile because of budget reasons and it was a shame that it missed Oshkosh a couple of years ago, when all the DC-3s showed up.
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Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:23 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 24):
The Travelair is still there. The Duster, I believe, is at the Smithsonian. There me be a Northeast a/c from the 30s at the Delta museum, also.

Let's not forget about one of their Convair 880s that sits up in Memphis:


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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:59 pm

Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 19):
But it's a bit of a sad shame that this aircraft is locked up in a hangar collecting bird poop. It's a bit of a discrace to the paint scheme

???

It's in a secure hanger on Delta property being well cared for by trained curators...in the museum.

You make it sound like it was hauled to some decrepit abandoned warehouse.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:09 pm

The Delta Air Transport Heritage Museum http://www.deltamuseum.org
You can see what aircraft are in the museum from the link. I is about a two hour visit to see everything. I do not believe any Delta money goes into this place only donations. The museum makes some money on donated surplus Delta items. They sell old aircraft seats, silverware, plates, life vests, amenity kits, etc...mostly stuff Delta would throw away.
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:47 pm

Last 3 flight of ship 102 were ATL to ATL with employees onboard. This is 102 before the first of three flights, they all left from Delta's TechOps ramp


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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:49 pm

Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 19):
Very historical indeed. But it's a bit of a sad shame that this aircraft is locked up in a hangar collecting bird poop. It's a bit of a discrace to the paint scheme. However, it is nice that there is a place on this planet we can go to see the best livery that was ever created. Maybe it's time to do a new retro look on, say , a 777?  

I'm sure there is someone there cleaning the birdpoop off as soon as it hits the aircraft. I'm sure it is kept in a very clean and prestentable state. It's better off in a hangar instead of outside in the elements like hail and things that could damage it.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:03 am

Quoting Alnicocunife (Reply 29):
I do not believe any Delta money goes into this place only donations. The museum makes some money on donated surplus Delta items.

It would be nice to see DL create a small budget for the museum, once the debt is under $10m. If greater developed and promoted, the museum could become a more effective MarCom/PR opportunity.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 23):
Minus the DC-3 they have, ALL of DL's planes are gone somehow.

If DL do not preserve an MD-88 or 752, in the next 10 years, it will be opportunity lost for the museum.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:24 am

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 10):
I recall seeing her fly into BOS circa 2006/2007(?) when I was working the ramp and the pilots were waving the US flag out the windows.

Don't remember the occasion, but it was a great site to see!

This was one of the farewell flights she made right before retirement. It was likely the flight that I was on.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:28 pm

Quoting skyguy (Reply 21):
I wonder if something like that could happen again, i.e. employees gathering funds to buy their employers (and shareholders) a new plane.

Or a refinery, or 49% of a British based airline. . .  

Goes to show how high airplane costs are (or alternatively how low the costs of these other two assets are).
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:37 pm

Quoting catiii (Reply 34):
Goes to show how high airplane costs are (or alternatively how low the costs of these other two assets are).

I recall, way back when, that DL paid about $15 million for a NEW Tristar.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:51 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 32):
It would be nice to see DL create a small budget for the museum, once the debt is under $10m. If greater developed and promoted, the museum could become a more effective MarCom/PR opportunity.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think they would prefer it to remain low-key. Mostly catering the the employees. DL doesn't "directly" put money into the museum but there are indirect contributions such as the $1 per year rent for hanger 1 and 2.

I just hope ship 41 will fly again soon.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:05 pm

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 36):

I just hope ship 41 will fly again soon.

Well, I understood that this is dependent on the company budget. It was a shame that it wasn't flying, a couple of years ago, when Oshkosh had their airshow and all the DC-3s showed up.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:07 pm

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 25):
still think it's very cool that they kept the DC-3 and 767 in flying shap

I don't believe the 767 is flyable.
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:24 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 9):

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 1):
I flew on her when she was wearing the 75th Anniversary color
I've always considered the 762 a male aircraft due to its stubby appearance. The 763 and 764 (especially the 764) can be considered female though.

In all honesty, I would like to know why we refer to machines as her or any humanizing term. To me cars, planes and trains along with other types of mechanized objects should be viewed as an object and not given a gender.

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 16):
Oh, Man. The 767. 30 years ago? Isn't DL one of the few global carriers (beyond others from North America) to STILL fly the 767 on long-haul routes?
Quoting KL911 (Reply 18):
Well,

* Austrian
* Arkefly
* LOT

Come to mind.

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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:54 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 39):
In all honesty, I would like to know why we refer to machines as her or any humanizing term. To me cars, planes and trains along with other types of mechanized objects should be viewed as an object and not given a gender.

600 years of maritime history and referring to vessels as "she" (except for the Russians, who I believe refer to their vessels as "he") but no one is telling you that YOU have to.
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:12 pm

DL needs to paint one of each type they operate in that livery! Gosh do I miss it.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:32 pm

It's in beautiful condition and well maintained! No "poop" anywhere nearby! LOL

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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:39 pm

Quoting N867DA (Reply 6):
The gift shop used to be the cockpit of an L1011...definitely worth checking out.

Still is! Just got back from there (went for a brief stop after lunch)...was pleasantly surprised to see a 1:200 Northwest Orient 747-100 model on sale today (plenty of inventory too!)
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:58 pm

Out of curiosity, where is the hangar that the 1982 rollout was held in? Is it at the current TOC, or was there a different site at that time?
 
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:04 pm

Quoting catiii (Reply 44):
Out of curiosity, where is the hangar that the 1982 rollout was held in? Is it at the current TOC, or was there a different site at that time?

I'm thinking it was where the current TOC is. I don't believe that anything new has been built since then. I wasn't present for the orgininal rollout, but was there for when ship #102 was repainted for the '96 Olympics in ATL. THAT was at the TOC.
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RE: Monumental Day In DL's History

Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:16 pm

Quoting catiii (Reply 44):
Out of curiosity, where is the hangar that the 1982 rollout was held in? Is it at the current TOC, or was there a different site at that time?

By the appearance of the building, it looks to be TOC 2 in ATL, which is still in use. Since the rollout in 1982, TOC3 was added.
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