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Quoting commavia (Thread starter): LAX-RDU (daily from 4/2/13) |
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 3): it provides good feed for their PAC ops... |
Quoting commavia (Thread starter): MIA-FDF (Sat from 4/6/13) MIA-PTP (Sat from 4/6/13) |
Quoting commavia (Thread starter): JFK-IAH (daily from 4/2/13) |
Quoting commavia (Thread starter): LAX-RDU (daily from 4/2/13) |
Quoting commavia (Thread starter): JFK-IAH (daily from 4/2/13) |
Quoting commavia (Thread starter): MIA-FDF (Sat from 4/6/13) MIA-PTP (Sat from 4/6/13) |
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 2): There's a lot more coming than just this. Lot's of talk of a major domestic route network shake-up starting in the spring which will see two things: |
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 5): It'll be interesting to see how these pan out--they're some of the very rare Caribbean/Latin destinations that would work better out of ATL than MIA because of the superior feed, and they didn't work out of ATL. |
Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 6): Quoting commavia (Thread starter): MIA-FDF (Sat from 4/6/13) MIA-PTP (Sat from 4/6/13) Does AF still operate these routes from MIA or am I off base here? |
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 2): 1) Significant connecting the dots between current spokes that only have service to one hub (i.e. Ottawa and Buffalo). |
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 2): 2) Opening/reopening smaller spokes that other majors are at (i.e. Melbourne, Florida and Albany). |
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 7): But what connections does Atlanta have that make it so superior? All they need is D.C., New York, Montreal and Boston. And Atlanta bypasses the Miami market entirely. Plus AA is already well established here. DL wasn't, and didn't make it a year even. |
Quoting deltairlines (Reply 9): Bingo. Ethnic Carib traffic lives and dies off of those four cities and Miami. ATL has very little of that type of traffic on an O&D basis. AA's got all of those cities having good flow to Miami plus the local base (which due to no need to prorate the traffic, drives up yields immensely). |
Quoting deltairlines (Reply 9): You mention ALB as a possibility - I wouldn't be shocked to see cities like PWM, PVD, etc. return, where the other majors are getting some mainline metal in there each day. |
Quoting Noise (Reply 20): RDU sounds great to me! Will definitely make flying a lot more convenient for me. What aircraft will be flying the route?? |
Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 16): |
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 5): It'll be interesting to see how these pan out--they're some of the very rare Caribbean/Latin destinations that would work better out of ATL than MIA because of the superior feed, and they didn't work out of ATL. Great fares though, just tiny markets. |
Quoting panam330 (Reply 22): Does AF still operate these routes from MIA or am I off base here? |
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 23): My guess is a 737-800. I wonder what the frequency will be? It says daily, but does that mean A daily flight, or daily flightS on the route. It is hard that I couldn't book it on AA's website, so I couldn't see |
Quoting miaami (Reply 18): Won't be bookable until the 23rd... This is perfect!! Let me guess the a/c is a 737-800? Now all we need is that DL CDG flight!! |
Quoting AFCDGPTP (Reply 24): MIA will work much better than ATL |
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 7): But what connections does Atlanta have that make it so superior? |
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 28): MSY - WN 737 or DL CR9 |
Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 6): I imagine AA will probably knock DL off the route as well. Even though they've cut back almost continuously at RDU for years, they still have a very loyal frequent flier and corporate base in the region with their RDU-LHR flight and all. |
Quoting laca773 (Reply 14): I will be interested in seeing if AA flies the A319 on the LAX-RDU route. That's probaby the best size a/c for this market. It will be interesting to see if DL increases the frequency on their LAX-RDU service to daily and re-time it to make it more attractive to corporate clients they have in RDU having a focus city there. I believe they fly this with a A320 a big portion of the time or is it, a 73H? |
Quoting jetlanta (Reply 36): They may have a LHR flight still, but this isn't AA's market anymore. Expect a fight. |
Quoting cessna2 (Reply 34): Could the new LAX-RDU service be timed to allow connections for RDU-LHR? With new 773s coming in what's the possibility of upgrading the route again to the 772? I could see it being twice daily service. AM departure for the businesses and a PM departure for pax connecting from LHR and vise versa. |
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 37): I wouldnt call RDU DL's market or anyone elses. The market share is spread pretty evenly among several carriers. Its not exactly ATL, CLT, IAH, or DFW. |
Quoting cessna2 (Reply 34): Could the new LAX-RDU service be timed to allow connections for RDU-LHR? With new 773s coming in what's the possibility of upgrading the route again to the 772? I could see it being twice daily service |
Quoting jetlanta (Reply 39): What I am saying is that Delta believes it is their market. That's what is going to matter. |
Quoting panam330 (Reply 22): I'd love to see SYR-DFW return. It'd be massively convenient, personally. |
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 27): ATL has much more volume--it's around 3x as big as MIA in terms of departures. Local market aside, connection opportunities are going to be maximized through a larger hub, and there's none larger than ATL. |
Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 31): AA already flew DFW-LIM, good to see that route return, it's going to be LATAM code-share? |
Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 33): Unfortunately in the same route announcement AA said they're ending one of the five daily JFK-LHR flights on March 30. I say unfortunate for the crews that fly it, but clearly AA is still well served in the market with four dailies on their own metal, plus up to eight more on JV partner BA. They did say, however, two of the remaining flights will switch to the 777-300ER. Flight 100 switches on March 15 (which we already knew), and 138 on May 9. |
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 37): I wouldnt call RDU DL's market or anyone elses. The market share is spread pretty evenly among several carriers. |
Quoting jetlanta (Reply 36): They've made a huge investment in RDU over a the past couple of years while AA has shrunk to a shadow of its former self. |
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 43): RDU-CDG got cancelled because AA said that if DL got subsidies, they would pull the LHR flight. Since AA offered better connecting opportunities via BA at LHR.. RTRP backed down. Then, I believe, DL made a push and has continued to push for the corporate contracts for the LHR flight so they can get offer international service with guarantees.. I believe they were looking to start the LHR and CDG flights if they could. Heard AA is not trying to let go and has a x term contract. Now, if US and AA merge.. And now that DL has a VX tie... It could be interesting what the future holds... Could be good 787 routes.. |
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 40): |
Quoting jetlanta (Reply 36): Some perspective from the U.S. DOT DB1B O&D Date for YE 2Q12: RDU Passenger Share DL 26% WN 21% US 16% AA 16% RDU Revenue Share DL 25% AA 18% WN 15% US 14% |
Quoting commavia (Thread starter): LAX-RDU (daily from 4/2/13) |
Quoting commavia (Thread starter): LAX-RDU is surprising only in so much as AA has shown shrinking attention to RDU in recent years with the pulldown of most RDU-Northeast capacity. Nonetheless, I am intrigued to see that AA is going to wade into the LAX-RDU nonstop market. |
Quoting commavia (Thread starter): The LAX end will obviously provide a good amount of feed, and AA does still have a strong corporate presence at the RDU end. |
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 2): 1) Significant connecting the dots between current spokes that only have service to one hub (i.e. Ottawa and Buffalo). |
Quoting GRUIAD (Reply 19): LAX-RDU is added before SAN-MIA ... Odd |
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 28): SAN - AS 737 or WN 737 |
Quoting cessna2 (Reply 34): Could the new LAX-RDU service be timed to allow connections for RDU-LHR? |