Good discussions all, everybody has had valid inputs to both the ins and outs of the YYC
realm. As a long time member on this site and having seen many previous versions of discussions relating with YYC
, this thread is very well discussed and is refreshing to get a 2012 update on where this city is going and what other Canadians (esp. PQ
Overall Calgary is definitely on the right track even if at times it seems a bit ambitious. The city is rich with money and the airport authority has enough AIF fees and rental fees collected to start putting a major part of its grand plan forward. The oil biz will be the bread and butter and will diversify a bit more with other sectors like HIgh Tech and Transportation growing, we have more downtown office towers being built/developed now (6 towers 5+mill sq.ft) than any other city in the country except Toronto ONTOP of the ones already built to date. For a city of 1.2mills our skyline of commerce power is on par with the likes of Toronto, Chicago and Manhattan in terms of economic generators (billions of dollars each month). Cowtown is so important to the rest of the country, its quite evident how well YYC
does getting pax records at the end of each year. All sectors benefit no matter how big or small the chunk of the pie is. It will continue to remain that way for the foreseeable future unless some other province discovers oil or dilithium and shifts the balance of power away from us.
strength as we all know will be domestic and with Encore coming online, I expect that to strengthen significantly as under served or untapped markets start to take growth. Ontop of the BC
interiors and prairie provinces I also predict that some US states will get Encore service as long as its within the range of the DH4Q. I can see places like GEG
coming back in the long run after the Canadian market is tapped. Washington and Oregon would be best bets for Encore penetration for seasonal, tourist based traffic and hopefully business too someday. Those two states have almost the same pop. as Ontario so there definitely is huge money making potential and the DH8Q might just be the right equipment for it and flight times are shorter than flying to Winnipeg.
Some factors that still interfere with YYC
prosperity are of course the Government policies with the bilateral. Somebody has raised a good point on this earlier on, why can't they relax to allow supply and demand to dictate who flies in and how often? Even if major world carriers like LH
does not find YYC
to be a viable market there are countless airlines that operate a cheaper model that could give YYC
a good shot and probably make a profit. I have heard that KLM has a lower operating cost model than BA
and look how well they are doing. TK
is another fine example on the same ranks of KL
, they have the most international destinations over all airlines in the world right now. They have a cheaper operating model (whatever that means comparing to the legacy's, maybe no unions!)
Therefore equivalent airlines in Asia or Mid east regions could prove to be attractive choices for YYC
and I'm optimistic the expansion will help make sure "they will come". Remember, $2bill worth of work is definitely for LONG term growth or i"ll be a monkey's uncle!
Somebody has also mentioned the so called 'one dimensional' mentality or character of the city. This may be referring to the dependence of the oil sector or maybe the conservatism of many people, businesses and developers which restrains the potential of what YYC
and Calgary as a whole could truly become. This aspect is where I admire the likes of YYZ
since they have a huge diversity and are much more liberal cities flourishing with culture and vibrancy. They are lucky to get all those variety of worldly destinations even if its to places like Algiers or Qatar and there is no doubt a part of that is because they are both exciting cities to be in. Cowtown still goes to sleep on most nights of the week and most Calgarians don't travel very much other than for Business or for Family and Winter getaways to resorty places despite the high income. Only in recent years has it attracted more international demographics and that has thankfully dimmed down the so called 'redneck' mentality that many attribute to our fine city. Just look at our architecture to see first hand how conservative we are. Outsiders had to be hired to show us how its done and I think this kind of principle will have to apply in the airline biz to the point where some carrier say NP
will give YYC
a run and grind out the kinks to fix our habits so our citizens fly them to Asian countries. (I say NP
cuz they already flew to YYC
in the past during summer season charters and they may be a contender to supplement the AC
japan flights) Question is not if but when will change occur where this city could truly become a 'giant' in the Canadian market.
Somebody was also spot on about aircraft equipment that will likely be our official bird after the Liebherr Tower Crane. Add in the Boeing 767, 787 and the A330 for our main calling cards to the world. At best case YYC
will attract enough biz to warrant 77L or 77W but no double deckers or humpbacks anytime soon. I see a greater chance of A380F one off flights every few months than the pax ones. There already is 748F service from CLX and several AN124's every few months.
The New Int'l Terminal will be nice and flexibility is built in to allow adjustments to accommodate transborder flights too, so it won't be that empty!
Our two major FBO's contribute to a significant amount of aircraft movements and I'm not sure if those numbers are included in the stats as I assume they are pax traffic thru the terminals only. Include the FBO's and we would be 3rd place, fact!
I say this as a Calgarian living here for the past 28 years who is the main a.net contributor of plane photos taken at YYC
that also lives and works downtown in the developer run industry which ties heavily with all those sectors.
Also well traveled enough to see the bad 'habits' the city continues to do which inhibits our potential as a 'world class city'. (I see the odd news paper article labeling this term like last week, and honestly we are not there yet)
Lastly, apparently YMM
has direct flights to the states, now I'm getting anxious...
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