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wrldtvlr
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AA Axing JFK-SDQ/STI

Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:47 pm

According to Travel Weekly, AA will cancel it's D.R. service from JFK on April 1.

American chops two D.R. routes from New York

How much more are they going to shrink in NY, supposedly one of their cornerstone cities?
 
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RE: AA Axing JFK-SDQ/STI

Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:48 pm

Posted several weeks back:

Rumor: AA Cancels JFK-SDQ / JFK-STI Routes April 1st! (by PRAirbus Jan 8 2013 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: AA Axing JFK-SDQ/STI

Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:55 pm

I did a search and didn't see that topic. Sorry - mods, feel free to delete this thread.
 
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RE: AA Axing JFK-SDQ/STI

Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:45 pm

JetBlue is killing AA to the Caribean out of JFK and Boston.
 
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RE: AA Axing JFK-SDQ/STI

Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:05 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 3):
JetBlue is killing AA to the Caribean out of JFK and Boston.

The fact that Delta has also expanded NYC-Caribbean is also hurting with a lot more seats in these markets.

Come spring, American will be down to 7-8 daily flights to the Caribbean from JFK now; SJU stays at 3x/day, BGI/PAP/STT are all daily, ANU/SKB each get less than daily.
 
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RE: AA Axing JFK-SDQ/STI

Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:00 am

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 4):

SXM will get seasonal AA service from JFK.
 
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RE: AA Axing JFK-SDQ/STI

Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:08 am

Quoting wrldtvlr (Thread starter):
How much more are they going to shrink in NY, supposedly one of their cornerstone cities?

I do not believe AA has been shrinking in NY within the past 5, perhaps even 10 years. They have certainly been busy cutting and adding markets as they shift their LGA and JFK slots around, though. Lest we not forget that AA picked up a few additional JFK slots through a B6 slot swap deal back in 2010, but even with those AA seems chronically short on JFK slots. The entire LGA operation has been very consistent since 2010, whilst JFK continues to change. In the coming months, we will see JFK services to SDQ and STI end, but AA is adding services from JFK to DUB and IAH. These days, with all 3 major NYC airports de facto fully slot restricted (as well as the popular suburban facility HPN), AA is certainly not shrinking in NYC - thereby giving coveted slots to competitors. They are merely optimizing services by reallocating slots as they deem necessary. I don't think it should come as a surprise that they believe they can make more money serving Ireland and Houston rather than the B6 Republic. Ooops, I meant Dominican Republic..

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 4):
The fact that Delta has also expanded NYC-Caribbean is also hurting with a lot more seats in these markets.

DL has been doing the same thing as AA in NYC: shuffling slots around. Opposite strategies, though. AA has been busy cutting back Caribbean and domestic ops in favor of adding more long hauls to Europe and South America, while DL has been doing the reverse - slashing transatlantic and South American services, while ostensibly parking the slots on regional and Caribbean routes.

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 4):
Come spring, American will be down to 7-8 daily flights to the Caribbean from JFK now; SJU stays at 3x/day, BGI/PAP/STT are all daily, ANU/SKB each get less than daily.
Quoting guyanam (Reply 5):

SXM will get seasonal AA service from JFK.

I daresay we may consider AA's JFK-CUN and JFK-BDA services, both of which appear to be holding up quite well in spite of B6 competition (luckily for AA, nobody else can start JFK-CUN under the U.S.-Mexico bilateral unless it, B6, or UA drops all NYC-CUN services, and that certainly won't be happening anytime soon!) as Caribbean routes as well.

Several of the markets you have listed have no B6 service - yet. That includes PAP, STT (no nonstop option, although they do offer connecting service via SJU), ANU, and SKB. BGI has B6, but no DL service at all. So, the only Caribbean markets that AA still competes directly against both DL and B6 from JFK are SJU, where AA probably still enjoys considerable post-hub FF loyalty as in STL, RDU, BNA, SJC, etc. and SXM, where it appears AA is in a weak seasonal position versus year round B6 and DL offerings. Yet, AA's retrenchment from the increasingly competitive Caribbean realm is certainly not a bad thing in the grand scheme of things. They offer better nonstop options to Europe and South America than ever before, while maintaining service to key transcontinental, Florida, and regional business, VFR, and/or leisure markets.
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