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Emirates to Start Services To Clark Airport Daily From Oct

Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:42 am

http://www.rappler.com/business/2204...-second-destination-in-philippines

Effective 01OCT, EK will start daily services to Clark, at the moment they serve 3 daily to MNL.


EK 338 DXB - CRK 0400 - 1640
EK 339 CRK - DXB 1835 - 2305

Aircraft: B777-300ER (2 class)

[Edited 2013-02-18 01:45:17]

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:53 am

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
Effective 01OCT, EK will start daily services to Clark, at the moment they serve 3 daily to MNL.

Is that Clark as in Tim Clark 

Well done EK, talk about aggressive growth...

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:24 am

I absolutely love this move! It shows that EK is listening to its staff on the ground in the Philippines and is willing to put that feedback into action. Many of the Filipino laborers in the Middle East are Ilocanos from northern Luzon. MNL is very difficult to reach from this region due to the distance insane traffic that is met when crossing through the city. As a result, EK might be able to capture more of the revenue associated with these travelers because they no longer have to spend the additional transportation costs required to get from home all the way across Manila. Also, most from the northern and western suburbs will find CRK more convenient than MNL.

With MNL so crowded and EK clearly wanting to grow capacity, opening CRK is a wonderful solution given the route demographics. Plus, CRK is a lot cheaper from an airport cost perspective than MNL. A wonderful supplement to their already robust MNL schedules!
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:49 am

There is a large Filipino expat/working population in Dubai and the immediate region, so the growth is not surprising. Does Clark have adequate facilities for EK (lounges etc)? I thought it was a an airport very much targetting LCC's.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:53 am

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 3):

From what I have seen Asiana (A321, 177 seats) also flies there which means that they have the facilities demanded by the legacy carriers.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:05 am

Facilities will nevertheless be challenging when 400+ passengers come off that B77W and crowd in what is supposedly called an arrivals hall.

Apart from that, it is worth noting that EK will have doubled capacity to the greater Manila region in under a year's time. I have no doubt that MNL is one of the prime candidates for 2-class EK A388 service if and when EK decides to actually takes delivery of aircraft with such a configuration and when MNL as airport can get its act together to accomodate the aircraft.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:17 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 5):
Apart from that, it is worth noting that EK will have doubled capacity to the greater Manila region in under a year's time. I have no doubt that MNL is one of the prime candidates for 2-class EK A388 service if and when EK decides to actually takes delivery of aircraft with such a configuration and when MNL as airport can get its act together to accomodate the aircraft.

Indeed ! I didn't realise the growth had been so sudden. Are there any restrictions on EK flying into MNL or the Phillipines in general from the current bilateral?

Whats the split between Y and J on the 2-class A388's?
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:22 am

Why change the topic title, EK already serve Manila, you could have simply put Clark Airport.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:24 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 7):
Why change the topic title, EK already serve Manila, you could have simply put Clark Airport.

The moderators changed it, not me.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:26 am

The title of this thread is rather misleading. It suggests that Emirates haven't fly to any airport in Manila before.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:28 am

Moderators should know Clark is a different city altogether, cant you edit it again?
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:31 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 10):
Moderators should know Clark is a different city altogether, cant you edit it again?

You can only edit the topic within the first hour of posting, it has been almost 2 hours since I posted the topic. I have requested them to change the topic to "Emirates to begin services to Clark Airport from October".
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:11 pm

Message to moderators:

Title should read "Emirates To Start Dubai - Clark Airport (Philippines) From October"

EK already serves Manila with 3 daily flights so they are definitely not starting up on Manila.

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:25 pm

Yikes, a 0400 departure time.
Not exactly a normal departure time, but goes to show how much congestion EK is causing at DXB.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:25 pm

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 12):

One would expect the moderators to know better than that, especially since they have completely changed the city/market that will be served by Emirates.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:41 pm

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 6):
Are there any restrictions on EK flying into MNL or the Philippines in general from the current bilateral?

From memory (can't find the link at present ) in September(?) last year an MOU was signed that stated there would be no restriction on the number of frequencies for both passenger and all-cargo that can be operated by the designated airlines of each side between points in the UAE and points in the Philippines other than Manila. While there was an increase allowed (doubled) for MNL, I understand that future expansion is subject to negotiation between the two sides.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:56 pm

Clark airport actually serves Angeles, and two other smaller cities in the surrounding area, its not even a Manila airport.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:18 pm

Great move. I like it when Full Service Carriers dare to take risks. It is next to impossible to get a slot at MNL currently - hence this comes as no surprise.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:37 pm

Manila Area daily? EK already serving MNL and surrounding areas 3 times daily.

Is it a crime to say EK to fly to Clark airport, Manila, if its so important to include MNL in the title.

[Edited 2013-02-18 05:39:08]
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:38 pm

I enjoyed the evolution of the title for this thread from right --> wrong --> still wrong!  

And what a clever move by EK - a sure winner methinks.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:59 pm

I guess nobody not familiar with EK would see this coming. If I am not mistaken this is the 3rd metro area in the world (after London and Tokyo) served by Emirates to more than one airport.

Quoting Tdan (Reply 2):
With MNL so crowded and EK clearly wanting to grow capacity, opening CRK is a wonderful solution given the route demographics. Plus, CRK is a lot cheaper from an airport cost perspective than MNL. A wonderful supplement to their already robust MNL schedules!

It also gives EK an edge, being the only Gulf carrier flying to Clark. If you are a Filipino expat in let's say, Jeddah or Kuwait, and you are from around that area (very populated btw) you might well use EK instead of connecting with QR, EY, CX or SQ.

Quoting carpethead (Reply 13):
Yikes, a 0400 departure time.
Not exactly a normal departure time, but goes to show how much congestion EK is causing at DXB.

I don't think it is such a bad schedule. This might well be the ultimate OFW (Overseas Foreign Workers) Express in the Gulf. As far as JED, RUH, DMM, KWI, BAH, DOH and MCT connect well (in addition to local UAE traffic), they might do well. If you are connecting at that time, you probably leave the other Gulf airports at around 10 PM - midnight... so that worker will work during that previous day to the flight... and the employer does not lose a working day or the OFW does not lose a holiday day in Philippines.

Same for return... you arrive at midnight, so you can work the next day in the Gulf.

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:04 pm

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:21 pm

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 20):
I don't think it is such a bad schedule. This might well be the ultimate OFW (Overseas Foreign Workers) Express in the Gulf. As far as JED, RUH, DMM, KWI, BAH, DOH and MCT connect well (in addition to local UAE traffic), they might do well. If you are connecting at that time, you probably leave the other Gulf airports at around 10 PM - midnight... so that worker will work during that previous day to the flight... and the employer does not lose a working day or the OFW does not lose a holiday day in Philippines.

Yep. 100% driven by being fed by Middle East and European and African flights (2300-0200 busiest arrival bank). And arriving into DXB at 2305 enables easily connections to numerous Middle Eastern cities.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:14 pm

Is this in anticipation of Cebu Pacific's A330 service to Dubai later this year?

I wonder if EK will try their luck with Cebu-Mactan? QR and GF have tried Cebu before, but they pulled out after a while. Maybe EK can make it work? Are they waiting for the Visayas/Mindanao market to develop some more?
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:16 pm

What is the bilateral limit of air service rights for EK?
Last I looked there was an attempt to block the expansion to 3x/day.
http://www.rappler.com/business/1592...ttle-again-for-manila-dubai-rights

What I wonder is there a limit to the number of flights from Clark? For example, if this service is popular, would anything (other than demand/profit) stop EK from going to 2 or 3 flights/day? I'm purely asking from a legal perspective.

I assume the flight will start after the completion of Terminal 2 (Phase 1)? (Note, I'm asking as I'm uncertain of the times and need to wait for T2.)

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
Aircraft: B777-300ER (2 class)

A good call as Clark is very unlikely to have much premium traffic (that pays, plenty who want cheap J, but few willing to pay a profitable fare).

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
at the moment they serve 3 daily to MNL.

   I thought that had been blocked...

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 5):
Facilities will nevertheless be challenging when 400+ passengers come off that B77W and crowd in what is supposedly called an arrivals hall.

I assume you're talking about the current T1. Would T2 be enough?

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 5):
I have no doubt that MNL is one of the prime candidates for 2-class EK A388 service if and when EK decides to actually takes delivery of aircraft with such a configuration and when MNL as airport can get its act together to accomodate the aircraft.

Agreed. MNL is a prime market for 2-class A388s. But as you note, there are caveats...

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:58 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 25):
A good call as Clark is very unlikely to have much premium traffic (that pays, plenty who want cheap J, but few willing to pay a profitable fare).

Even MNL has very little premium demand. EY basically gives away the business seats flying there. EK is probably looking to win the contracting crowd here in the Middle East for the route.
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:02 pm

CRK is about 110 kms to the north of MNL. Right now i have to make a 3 hr journey at the best of times to catch the DXB flight. direct DXB-CRK service is great and will be a better option to all the North Luzon area based folks.      i just wish the launch date was not as far as Oct....
 
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:18 pm

Quoting hhslax2 (Reply 26):
Even MNL has very little premium demand.

understatement.   Some markets will remain low premium, but if EK profits off them, expand!

Quoting hhslax2 (Reply 26):
EK is probably looking to win the contracting crowd here in the Middle East for the route.

Agreed. But also with the cruise ship crews. EK has built up an interesting business serving that demand... Low margin, but it seems to be enough with EK's cost structure.

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Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:07 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 25):
What I wonder is there a limit to the number of flights from Clark?

According to an article posted 11/09/2012 on UAEInteract there is no restriction.

Quote:
The two delegations agreed that there will be no restriction on the number of frequencies for both passenger and all-cargo that can be operated by the designated airlines of each side between points in the UAE and points in the Philippines other than Manila.

Thsi contrasts with the agreement signed in 2009 which allowed for

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- Five (5) additional weekly frequencies for each side to/from Manila;

- Forty two (42) additional weekly frequencies for each side to/from Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (Clark);

- Twenty one (21) additional weekly frequencies for each side to/from Cebu International Airport; and

- Twenty one (21) additional weekly frequencies for each side to/from other airports in the Philippines.

Additionally, under the 2009 Agreement

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The two parties agreed to allow the designated airlines of each side to operate up to 600 tons per week per direction to/from Cebu International Airport. And they agreed that the designated airlines of the UAE shall have the right to exercise full fifth freedom traffic rights only up to fourteen (14) weekly frequencies between any intermediate point(s) and Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (Clark) only, and any point(s) beyond, except Japan, the USA and Canada.

The designated airlines of the Philippines shall have the right to exercise full fifth freedom traffic rights only up to fourteen (14) weekly frequencies between any intermediate point(s) and any one point in the UAE only, and any point(s) beyond, except the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

The latest agreement represents a major liberalisation but still retains a limit on rights at MNL.
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:21 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 5):
and when MNL as airport can get its act together to accomodate the aircraft.

Hm? MNL is an A380-ready airport: A380s have landed here already on test flights. CRK also supports the A380 as well.
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:26 am

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 30):
MNL is an A380-ready airport

Are you talking runway and taxiway ready or also terminal ready? Does MNL have dedicated A380 gates? The latest information at EK is that MNL's terminals are nowhere near ready to accomodate the aircraft.
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:32 am

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 29):
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 25):
What I wonder is there a limit to the number of flights from Clark?

According to an article posted 11/09/2012 on UAEInteract there is no restriction.

That link is very interesting!
The two delegations agreed that there will be no restriction on the number of frequencies for both passenger and all-cargo that can be operated by the designated airlines of each side between points in the UAE and points in the Philippines other than Manila. With regard to Manila, passenger frequencies will double in the near future for both Philippines and UAE carriers in order to keep up with the growth of air traffic between the two countries.


So more rights to MNL and the rest of the Philippines is 'OPEN.'   
So naturally I went to see what the options were for EK.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...usiest_airports_in_the_Philippines

Clark was the #11 airport. If that supports service, I would expect the other Philippine airports to eventually see EK service. But when? And only Cebu City and Daveo city really seem to have much chance near term.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 29):
The latest agreement represents a major liberalisation but still retains a limit on rights at MNL.

IMHO, that is fair. If the Philippines sign more of these deals, the secondary cities will benefit economically.

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Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:04 am

When I read this thread, I really scratch my head. Whenever a foreign carrier announces service to Las Vegas or Orlando, everyone comes diving in saying, "low yield, no premium traffic, etc.etc.". OK, if that is the case, then how does EK make MNL (or Clark) work. I see less of a demand on these routes for premium traffic than I see see on routs to LAS/MCO. So, my question is, if everyone knows so much about low yields and why so many routes don't work for lack of premium demand, somebody explain how EK routes to the Philippines thrive?
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:24 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 31):
Are you talking runway and taxiway ready or also terminal ready? Does MNL have dedicated A380 gates? The latest information at EK is that MNL's terminals are nowhere near ready to accomodate the aircraft.

I don't think you need dedicated A380 gates with dual-deck jet bridges to dock an A380. On one of the test flights, the A380 successfully docked at Terminal 1. Sure, it will take longer to board and deplane, but that doesn't mean that the terminal isn't ready.

Sure, it's good to have them, but is it really that necessary to have A380s fly to an airport? Probably not.
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:40 am

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 34):

You are right. EK already does remote boarding for 380s at JED.... if thee is demand and runway/taxiway are 380 compliant airlines will go there.....
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:44 am

Quoting crownvic (Reply 33):
if everyone knows so much about low yields and why so many routes don't work for lack of premium demand, somebody explain how EK routes to the Philippines thrive?

It's pretty simple. EK has a very low cost base, in part because of the very large aircraft they use, which allows them to serve low-yield markets profitably, as well as undercut other carriers (mainly legacy European carriers) on more traditional rotations, like Europe-Australia.

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Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:20 am

Quoting flyingdoc787 (Reply 24):

Is this in anticipation of Cebu Pacific's A330 service to Dubai later this year?

I didn't realize another airline was flying Cebu to Dubai in 2013. I think EK will help (via connections at DXB) and watch. There is a huge advantage to operating the Wayport of DXB.

Quoting flyingdoc787 (Reply 24):
I wonder if EK will try their luck with Cebu-Mactan? QR and GF have tried Cebu before, but they pulled out after a while. Maybe EK can make it work? Are they waiting for the Visayas/Mindanao market to develop some more?

I suspect EK will wait and see how the market develops. On one hand EK is short of aircraft anyway! On the other, the risk is high. Once the market is established (e.g., enough residents of Cebu have jobs in various industries such as the cruise industries), EK will move in. Early, but not the 1st mover.

Quoting crownvic (Reply 33):
Whenever a foreign carrier announces service to Las Vegas or Orlando, everyone comes diving in saying, "low yield, no premium traffic, etc.etc.". OK, if that is the case, then how does EK make MNL (or Clark) work.

Just as the carriers in LAS or MCO do, by having CASM below RASM. EK will fly a cabin lacking premium seats and instead will sell Y at a profit. It is possible to thrive purely on Y. It simply requires cost discipline and proper marketing. It isn't easy, but EK seems to be able. Later EK has shown an ability to grow the premium markets to everyone's surprise... (But that takes years.)

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 35):
You are right. EK already does remote boarding for 380s at JED.... if thee is demand and runway/taxiway are 380 compliant airlines will go there.....

Agreed, but JED has higher premium demand. MNL will probably see the A380, but I'll wait for the 2-class version and not the first few destinations. (BHX seems like an excellent "1st target.")

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Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:48 am

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 30):
Hm? MNL is an A380-ready airport: A380s have landed here already on test flights. CRK also supports the A380 as well.

A380 has landed in BOM and DEL as well. I was there myself when the A380 landed in CRK. Knowing CRK airport like the back of my hand i do know that the runways and a few taxiways are A380 complaint but everybody who has been to DMIA (the CRK terminal) know that it is a joke! Its nothing more than a couple of rooms. If CRK wants to be really A380 ready then the proposed new terminal should be built with speed. MNL on the other hand in the strictest sense needs to segregate taxi traffic during A380 movements. None of the stands actually are code F complaint, hence if the A380 is docked in any of the current stands restrictions have to be made regarding movements around that stand. This is similar to BOM if at all it ever sees the 380s....
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:59 am

Quoting carpethead (Reply 13):
Yikes, a 0400 departure time.
Not exactly a normal departure time, but goes to show how much congestion EK is causing at DXB.

The 0400 departure time for the current MNL bound 777 happens to be the most favored and costliest of the triple daily MNL flights out of DXB! It happens to be a very convenient flight since arrival is at 1640 Local time at Philippines and the return flight will reach DXB on the same night at 2255. Just for a comparison there was atleast 700 Dhirams difference in fare between the 0400 flight and the next one at around 1000 for a trip to MNL.

Having said that ...the 0400 to 0600 departure bank from DXB is getting quite crowded these days as well...and i just don't see that improving at all! Partly due to EKs own massive expansion over the past few years and a lot of recently introduced narrow body frequencies from the regional surroundings.
 
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:37 am

Quoting JU068 (Reply 4):

CX fly A430's and 773's to Clark. They should thus have facilities for EK.
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Quoting cipango (Reply 40):
CX fly A430's and 773's to Clark.

KA flies to CRK, not CX. And even at that, what I know is that the largest plane they send there is the A320 (maybe the A321), not the A330.
 
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Quoting Akiestar (Reply 41):
KA flies to CRK, not CX. And even at that, what I know is that the largest plane they send there is the A320 (maybe the A321), not the A330.

My Bad, I think I confused CRK with CEB.
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:50 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 16):

Clark airport actually serves Angeles, and two other smaller cities in the surrounding area, its not even a Manila airport.

As far as geographical delineation is concerned, you are right as Clark is in Pampanga province which is twice removed from the Capital. However, in practice, Clark does serve Manila in addition to the nearby and further north provinces.
The Clark-Manila ground transportation is excellent in terms of choices. From the terminal itself there are frequent Philtranco and Partas coaches running to a multitude of points in the city costing about P300 upwards.
The nearby (a P50 aircon jeepney ride from the terminal) Dau Bus Station/Terminal offers even more choices: with Five Star, Victory Liner, Philippine Rabbit, Pantranco, Partas, Dagupan and more serving up at least hourly services each round the clock for P150 and below to Manila. In addition, private minibuses ply the route as well.
From Dau, there are also many services to the surrounding and further north provinces.
So from the the real world point of view, Clark is, to all intents and purposes, also a Manila airport. The distance from Clark to Pasay (where the main Manila airport is situated) is about the same as that of Malaysia's KL city centre to KLIA which is actually not in KL but in the state of Selangor.


Quoting 777way (Reply 18):
Is it a crime to say EK to fly to Clark airport, Manila, if its so important to include MNL in the title.

Airlines (eg Ryanair) do in a way mislead the uninformed masses by giving the impression that a relatively far away airport is in or very near the mentioned city. When Tigerair first started flying to the Philippines, it called its first point Manila (Clark). Later, when it began service to the city proper, they are named Clark (Manila) and Manila respectively. This gave rise to confusion to quite a number of people (both Singapore residents and Filipinos) flying from Singapore, in landing at the wrong airport. A close friend of mine had a huge quarrel - almost leading to a permanent separation - with his partner because of the latter's mistake.

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 27):
CRK is about 110 kms to the north of MNL. Right now i have to make a 3 hr journey at the best of times to catch the DXB flight.

Balintawak, at the start of the North Luzon Expressway, which is at the northern end of Manila is hardly 80kms to Clark. Airport to airport distance is about 100kms.
In the best of times (from after midnight to before dawn), the coach journey from Pasay near NAIA (Manila's airport) to Dau (near Clark) or vice versa is only a tad over an hour. 3 hours means a very heavy traffic in the daytime.

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 30):
CRK also supports the A380 as well.

Clark's existing runways, taxiways and tarmac are more than adequate for the whalejet but the same cannot be said for the present Immigration and Customs facilities. Even the 180 seater A320 with the average of 80% load need more than an hour to clear all its pax. That's why I always chose - as far as possible - to sit near the exit to be among the first to get my passport stamped, and then to breeze through customs with only my carry-on. I pity the last passengers of a full A380 if the CIQ facilities is at its present state; they will need more than 3 hours from touchdown to terminal egress.

*edit to correct a couple of typos.

[Edited 2013-02-19 08:58:16]
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RE: Emirates To Start Services To Clark Airport Daily From Oct

Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:06 am

I stll dont understand why airports cannot be considered as serving the city they are most near, why cant it be said EK to serve Angeles/Mabalacat, same goes for other places, this is like saying if Bahrain was part of Qatar then Bahrain Airport would be marketed as serving Doha.

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