|Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 104):|
With so many entrenched carriers, I think DL needs to expand smartly and slowly before it can start really taking on AA, UA, or WN. Then again, these carriers aren't gonna take kindly, so we'll see.
As much as I prefer DL dominance (due to my obvious bias) isn't it refreshing for a lot of posters to see an operation like LAX with a bunch of carriers with strong operations? Seems kinda like the old days I was too young to remember
|Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 107):|
If Delta had the corporate contracts or traffic flows from its international codeshare partners, those routes and those frequencies would already exist.
Heck, if Delta had a hub at ORD, DFW, IAD, Denver, etc., those routes would already exist.
These are not just temporary impediments that will be overcome in time, they are structural disadvantages.
|Quoting LAXintl (Reply 110):|
But need to remember - place like ORD, DFW are much larger local market then the DL hubs of ATL, DTW or MSP.
In other words its not that critical for AA/UA to serve the DL hubs to in order to serve the LA market well.
But for DL the lack of ORD for example is a bigger missing hole if it desires to serve local needs.
Goodness. I'm not sure why this is so difficult. Not one of these carriers offers a comprehensive product at LAX
. This market is huge and the largest carrier offers less than 200 daily flights.
are missing holes in Delta's network at LAX
"today", let's not assume that every major corporate contract requires ORD
nonstops. While it is clear that some on here would like to discount the importance of the LAX
market, that would be a mistake. In fact, besides being the third largest music production city in the U.S., Atlanta is already the #3 movie/television center as well. The later is growing particularly fast. In fact, NYC/LAX
are where the entertainment industry action is and only one airline has positioned itself to take advantage of this so far.
Here is some reference material: http://decatur.patch.com/articles/ge...ons-generated-31-billion-last-year
Georgia was home to 333 feature films, television movies and series, commercials, and music videos that were shot across the state during fiscal year 2012. Georgia-filmed movies slated to hit theatres in the next few months include “Flight” starring Denzel Washington on November 2, and “Parental Guidance” starring Billy Crystal and Bette Midler on December 25.
A pair of Midtown-filmed releases will come in Spring of 2013. On April 13. Legendary Entertainment will release the Harrison Ford project “42” (with Midtown scenes) and Universal will release, “Identity Thief” starring Jason Bateman and Melissa McCarthy on May 10.
Other Georgia projects expected to be released next year include two Midtown-filmed projects, “The Internship” starring Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson; and the “Devil’s Knot” starring Colin Firth and Reese Witherspoon. Also , “The Killing Season” starring John Travolta and Robert De Niro and the Savannah-filmed “CBGB,” are Georgia-filmed releases expected next year
In addition, a record number of television shows were shot in Georgia during FY12, including AMC’s “The Walking Dead,” CW’s “The Vampire Diaries,” BET’s “Reed Between the Lines,” “The Game,” and “Let’s Stay Together”; “Family Feud”; VH1’s “Single Ladies”; USA’s “Necessary Roughness” and “Royal Pains”; Lifetime’s “Drop Dead Diva”; and many more.
Feature films in preproduction or currently in production in Georgia include the second feature in the billion dollar ‘Hunger Games’ franchise “Catching Fire”; “Scary Movie 5”; “Getaway”; “Last Vegas” starring Michael Douglas, Kevin Kline, Morgan Freeman and Robert De Niro; and “Ten” starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.
“Our competitive incentives, talented crew, diverse locations and accessibility give us an edge when productions are picking a location,” said Lee Thomas, the Director of the Georgia Film, Music & Digital Entertainment Office. “All of these assets build upon an infrastructure that is increasingly positioning Georgia among the go-to locations for entertainment productions.”
Additional Georgia-filmed movies that have been released in recent months include Tyler Perry’s “Madea’s Witness Protection”; “Lawless” starring Shia LaBeouf and Tom Hardy; “The Watch” starring Vince Vaughn and Ben Stiller; and “The Odd Life of Timothy Green” starring Jennifer Garner.
Let's not forget that Turner Broadcasting and Cox Communications are also ATL
The point is that ATL
is an important market to key corporations based in L.A. and neither AA
serve it. In fact, not a single airline at LAX
can offer everything a corporation could want. Corporations will chose based on a variety of criteria.
Just because Delta doesn't have DFW
today doesn't mean it can't compete for its fair share of L.A. originating corporate business.
I'd also remind everyone that it would be very Delta-like for the carrier to enter both ORD
at some point soon. When that happens, i'm sure we'll hear criticism from the same cynics who said that LGA
would never last. Just watch.
Again, at the end of the day, all three of these carriers will offer a comprehensive network from LAX
and all three will do just fine. Demand is so big, and capacity is so constrained, that there is room for all three. If people would take their blinders off, they'd see that is what is happening already.