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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:44 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 49):

Weather alert - Northern Ireland braced for drifting snow, gales and rain

I suspect that flight diversions are possible in the coming hours.

Currently - a deep depression is centred WSW of Ireland while pressure remains very high all across Scandinavia and Northeastern Europe - where record late season cold is occurring. As a result - a very severe S'Ely airflow covers Ireland. As the rainfall associated with this depression tracks northwards, it is becoming slow moving and meeting the colder Arctic sourced air-mass to the Northeast - turning readily to snowfall.

During the coming 48-72 hours - this area of low pressure will gradually decline however even colder Easterly winds will become established - with exceptionally cold air filtering Westwards all across Ireland. At the moment - it looks like some areas of Northern Ireland (high ground especially) could see severe snowfall while into early next week - if current guidance is correct - de-icing and wintry precipitation may be the order of the day!

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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:49 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 48):
The weather in Cork has been terrible all afternoon, after rain in the morning the wind picked up, with some rally nasty gusts.

Some flights diverting from SNN EI 387 on approach to DUB now.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:13 pm

Quoting EIBusiness (Reply 50):
I suspect that flight diversions are possible in the coming hours.

Thanks for the very detailed information as always.   Certainly would not surprise me Im expecting a power outage here the lights have been flickering and winds extreme currently.

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 51):
Some flights diverting from SNN EI 387 on approach to DUB now.

Im surprised they are not diverting from DUB also. ( Unless its not as bad there like it is here ) .
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:43 pm

this evenings Loganair flight from DUB - CFN was cancelled due to strong winds up here.
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:19 am

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 45):
Ryanair seem to be the only game in town for new continental routes for SNN.

One is SNN's biggest weaknesses has beeo continental Europe with sun destinations being the backbone of any European routes. Good to hear more expansion at SNN and to a destination not currently served or likely to be served by any other airline. FR used to operate ALC a few years back before all the cutbacks there.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 46):
Hope this relationship does not sour as quickly as past arrangements. Be interesting to see what concessions were offered.

I also hope that the relationship doesn't get too cosy to the point where SNN are once again at the mercy of FR. A nice, slow, steadt sustainable approach is what is needed not a get rich quick scheme like existed before. Yeah, FR proved you can fly alot of people to alot of destinations from SNN provided you practically paid them to fly.
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:47 am

As expected some disruption at BHD :

STATEMENT RE. WEATHER DISRUPTION FRIDAY 22ND MARCH 06:30

Friday 22 Mar 2013

While the airport remains open, George Best Belfast City Airport will 'Snow Close' the runway this morning until an estimated time of 08:30, due to a persistant wet snow fall.

Passengers are advised to check with their airline before travelling.

http://www.belfastcityairport.com/Ab...-DISRUPTION-FRIDAY-22ND-MARCH.aspx
 
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:55 am

Not only is BHD closed, but 18,000 homes in N.I. are without power .

Not too wonderful down here Dublin this morning, with heavy driving rain.
I do hope we do not have to compensate all those lured over by "The Gathering" for misselling - it has hardly stopped raining since that ballyhoo started.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:36 am

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 56):

40,000 without power is the latest but BHD just re opened the runway but lots of delays.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:43 pm

RE3721 (MAN-ORK) was diverted to KIR this morning due to crosswinds. Passengers on the turnaround to BRS were bussed to KIR, causing knock-on delays this afternoon for flights operated by that aircraft.
 
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:50 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 58):
RE3721 (MAN-ORK) was diverted to KIR this morning due to crosswinds. Passengers on the turnaround to BRS were bussed to KIR, causing knock-on delays this afternoon for flights operated by that aircraft.

Thanks for the update, I was already wondering why every flight is delayed into Cork tonight, up to 4 hours. Since two Aer Lingus flights are now to land around 3AM the question came up if Cork had a curfew being so close to the city?
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:15 pm

The Aer Lingus 757 rumour seemed to go very quiet recently but was revived today, same rumours of 757s at SNN, Toronto from DUB and back to the west coast with the spare A330.

It was mentioned on Morning Ireland today as well.

http://www.rte.ie/news/morningirelan...130322,20175185,20175185,flash,232

Hopefully not long to wait before confirmation, could be a very interesting development and the biggest since the Open Skies routes were announced.

Quoting KL911 (Reply 59):
Since two Aer Lingus flights are now to land around 3AM the question came up if Cork had a curfew being so close to the city?

Cork's terminal is actually open 24 hours a day, not sure if that's changed. I've never heard of flights having a curfew either but might be wrong.
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:50 am

It's been reported that a deal is in the making between Boeing, Southwest and Ryanair, whereby FR will take some of WN's early delivery slots, while WN will take some of FR's older 738s.

Quoted from the thread currently running on this:

Rumor it's a 3 way deal with WN,Boeing capital and Ryan Air.
Ryan air is picking new 800 deliveries slots that WN deferred.
This is part of Ryan Air's new A/C order???
WN is Rumored to be picking up 75 old non ETOPS Ryan Air 800's from Boeing capital over the next 4 years.
Something like 5 in 2013, 42 in 2014, 15 in 2015 and 13 in 2016.
First 35 will be used to replace 717's and the other 12 will be used for DAL growth in 4Q 2014.
The last 28 will replace the last 500's and some 300's.

WN currently has 37 738s on order (theirs seat 175). They currently have 569 737s in service!
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:14 am

Quoting kaitak (Reply 61):
They currently have 569 737s in service!

Wow! I knew WN were big but I had no idea they were that big. It would surprise me if WN were involved in the new FR order. They did teach MoL alot of what he knows. That said, having flown WN and found it quite hard to understand how they are considered a LCC while UA are considered a full service carrier, it is clear MoL has taken things a bit further than what he got taught at WN.
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:00 am

Quoting kaitak (Reply 61):
They currently have 569 737s in service!

Yes they are an amazing set up . I used to fly them from my local airport BUR in the early part of the 90's . They really have come a long way.

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 60):
Cork's terminal is actually open 24 hours a day, not sure if that's changed. I've never heard of flights having a curfew either but might be wrong.

I never heard of such either. Hope its not changed.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:20 am

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 62):
it is clear MoL has taken things a bit further than what he got taught at WN

FR is making much more profit than WN, thats all that count  
Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 60):
Cork's terminal is actually open 24 hours a day, not sure if that's changed. I've never heard of flights having a curfew either but might be wrong.

Good to know.

I am actually surprised about the very short runway. Can they make ACE etc from ORK without penalties?
This because my hometown GRQ needed to extend their runway from 1800 to 2500 mtr to cater for nonstop flights to destinations like ACE and TFS.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:19 am

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 62):
I knew WN were big but I had no idea they were that big..................................They did teach MoL alot of what he knows................ it is clear MoL has taken things a bit further than what he got taught at WN.

The only parts of the WN business model that FT took onboard were single aircraft type and rapid turnarounds.
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:04 pm

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 65):
single aircraft type and rapid turnarounds.

And nearly everything else I reckon was copied from the way Walmart treats its staff and suppliers.....
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:49 pm

Apparently, the plans for the 757s have been confirmed to EI staff in a briefing by CM this week.

Aer Lingus will be acquiring three 757s this Winter for SNN-BOS/JFK, while the 757s will also be used for YYZ next Summer, in competition with AC and TS.

There are also reports of a west coast service, but I'm not sure whether this has been confirmed by CM; it's been described as "expected".

On a historical note, the 757s will be the first PW powered aircraft operated by EI since the retirement of the 747s in 1995.
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:14 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 67):
On a historical note, the 757s will be the first PW powered aircraft operated by EI since the retirement of the 747s in 1995.

Where will these 757s be coming from?
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:18 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 67):

So two of the 757s will be based at SNN as expected, fantastic! Looking forward to the official announcement with details of schedules, seat configurations etc. Can't wait to see the EI livery on the 757s - will be interesting with the winglets!
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:21 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 67):
Aer Lingus will be acquiring three 757s this Winter for SNN-BOS/JFK, while the 757s will also be used for YYZ next Summer, in competition with AC and TS.

I wonder if this will be the start of code sharing with Air Canada, the interline agreement announced last year was said to be a preliminary step toward a full code sharing partnership. Makes sense to tie it into an Aer Lingus service to YYZ.
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:32 pm

Id expect to see SNN-BOS/JFK B757 loaded into the CRS systems and EI.COM around Mid May to June.
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:34 pm

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 68):
Where will these 757s be coming from?

Finnair, to be owned/operated by Air Contractors but cabin crewed by EI seems to be the most likely suggestion.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:10 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 67):
On a historical note, the 757s will be the first PW powered aircraft operated by EI since the retirement of the 747s in 1995.

Might have to catch you on a technicality there Kaitak....those 767's that EI operated for a short while were PW4000 powered if im correct. Although not sure if that was before or after 1995.
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:33 pm

Quoting EireRock (Reply 73):
Might have to catch you on a technicality there Kaitak....those 767's that EI operated for a short while were PW4000 powered if im correct. Although not sure if that was before or after 1995.

B767's were operated briefly in '90 or '91 I believe. The plan was to start West Coast ops but the Gulf War killed off that idea.
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:42 pm

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 74):
B767's were operated briefly in '90 or '91 I believe. The plan was to start West Coast ops but the Gulf War killed off that idea.

So you are indeed correct Kaitak, forgive my input!!

Thanks for clearing that up EagleBoy!
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:47 pm

I don't think that EI will operate JFK and BOS daily from early Jan to mid March. Yes a smaller aircraft helps but that time of year is still weak and EI will not make a profit. Would expect 1 B757 to operate both JFK and BOS 3 and 4 weekly then the usual daily service to both outside of that period.

What are the chances of AC and EI doing a codeshare on each carriers direct service to YYZ, it may open up connections out of YYZ for EI if they did.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:55 pm

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 74):
B767's were operated briefly in '90 or '91 I believe. The plan was to start West Coast ops but the Gulf War killed off that idea.

That indeed was a shame. When you look over the years EI have had lots of things that have set them back outside of their control. Foot and mouth was another one and equally as damaging.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:31 pm

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 74):
The plan was to start West Coast ops but the Gulf War killed off that idea.

I think it was something even more dangerous than the Gulf War ... Maire Geoghegan-Quinn, the minister at the time, rejected plans submitted by EI to operate nonstop from DUB to LAX (despite all the economic arguments for this); she was also the minister who killed her predecessor (Seamus Brennan)'s plan to relax the stopover; SB went on to minister again in the early part of this decade, though it was MGQ's successor as Minister for Transport, Brian Cowen, who was the one who authorised the 50/50 arrangement that we had for many years until Open Skies. Basically, the Executive Chairman of EI at the time, the late Bernie Cahill, convinced Cowen that with the 747s being so old, they could not justify replacing them unless there was a change in the regulations.

By then, however, the 763s were leased out; one went to Aeromexico and the other, to TWA. One of them spent a long, long time parked in the open at DUB, though it was later used for DUB-SNN-BOS services.
 
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:39 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 76):
I don't think that EI will operate JFK and BOS daily from early Jan to mid March. Yes a smaller aircraft helps but that time of year is still weak and EI will not make a profit. Would expect 1 B757 to operate both JFK and BOS 3 and 4 weekly then the usual daily service to both outside of that period.

Makes sense.....I would see the double daily B757 ops to be Summer only. Indeed the 3/4 split with a B757 may well allow EI to keep SNN year round. We could possibly see a B757 operating in Winter from Dublin on a lower yielding route.

A 3/3/4 B757/A332/A333 mix could actually allow EI to tailor their fleet/network set-up very well over the entire year to suit the varying demand in their network. (Assuming capacity of 12/170, 24/250, 24/300 respectively)
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:11 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 67):
Apparently, the plans for the 757s have been confirmed to EI staff in a briefing by CM this week.

Fantastic news! This is without doubt the biggest shake up in EI long haul strategy since they acquired the A330s.

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 69):
So two of the 757s will be based at SNN as expected, fantastic! Looking forward to the official announcement with details of schedules, seat configurations etc. Can't wait to see the EI livery on the 757s - will be interesting with the winglets!

It will certainly be a huge boost for the new independent SNN to have an improved schedule on the TA flights and a return to year round services. How long though before we get some local idiot politician who tries to gain himself publicity by passing this off as EI downgrading of SNN services using some misinformation he overheard in some pub on a Saturday night.

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 79):
Makes sense.....I would see the double daily B757 ops to be Summer only. Indeed the 3/4 split with a B757 may well allow EI to keep SNN year round. We could possibly see a B757 operating in Winter from Dublin on a lower yielding route.

Perhaps one of the B757s could be used to operate ski routes from SNN during the winter? I do agree that it is hard to imagine being able to make much profit operating double daily to the US from SNN during the winter even with the smaller aircraft.
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:22 am

EI-DEO was transferred to SNN yesterday (22/3) to be repainted in "Little Red" colours, to start its new life flying domestically from LHR.

Which one?

DEO.

He said 'DEO.

(Daylight come and me want to go home"!)

Sorry, couldn't resist!
 
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:30 pm

Great article in the Irish Times on Etihad crew training

http://www.irishtimes.com/sky-high-service-1.1335217?page=1

Aubrey Tiedt, Etihad Airways vice president for guest services is originally from Dundrum.
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:37 pm

Weather still effecting flights due to the bad weather.

Liverpool Ryanair FR443 22 Mar 20:40 Delayed 02:30
( Bet they wont be playing the trumpet on that one )  

Milan-BGY Ryanair FR942 24 Mar 13:35 Cancelled

Toulouse Germania ST7778 24 Mar 14:50 Cancelled

London-STN Ryanair FR227 24 Mar 21:40 Delayed 23:15

Glasgow Aer Lingus EI3229 24 Mar 22:05 Delayed 00:05

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/flight-information/live-arrivals.aspx
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:57 pm

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 82):
Great article in the Irish Times on Etihad crew training

Especially the salary of €40,000 annually tax free!
I do enjoy a spot of flying, especially when it's not in economy!
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:48 pm

Guys,

I know there is a whole story about EI being forced to operate via or from SNN. But now with open skies the goverment can not force airlines to fly into SNN can they?

So why are airlines still operating trans-atlantic to a city of just 10.000 citizens, or even to a County of 120.000 citizens? And Dublin is just over 200 km away.

Sorry for the question, I am sure there is a good answer for it.  
 
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:09 pm

Nice article about EY. Seems very positive, more like a recruitment advert.

I like this quote "So how can an airline that doesn’t cut corners make money in our low-fare world? “ We are very efficient,” Tiedt says. “We might have 12 crew on-board when other airlines will have 14."

EI must be even more efficient,they only have 8 crew on an A330. Maybe they are talking about their B777 crew levels?


Quoting KL911 (Reply 85):
.....But now with open skies the goverment can not force airlines to fly into SNN can they?
So why are airlines still operating trans-atlantic to a city of just 10.000 citizens, or even to a County of 120.000 citizens......
Sorry for the question, I am sure there is a good answer for it.

I assume that they are flying into the whole South West catchment area rather than just SNN, Limerick or Co.Clare. US tourists are quite attracted to the Kerry, Clare, Galway region for its activities.

EDIT: No subsidies are given, part from any normal new route discounts that are available to any airline new to SNN. And the govt doesn't force airline to operate into SNN. Obviously there is a market there. But as we can see from the EI operation,it is not vibrant. They suspend winter ops and the US carriers use smaller B757's.

[Edited 2013-03-24 12:23:54]
 
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:14 pm

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 86):
I assume that they are flying into the whole South West catchment area rather than just SNN, Limerick or Co.Clare. US tourists are quite attracted to the Kerry, Clare, Galway region for its activities.

Ok, I get the tourism part, but can a transatlantic route be viable with just low yield tourists and O&D ? Is there subsidy for those routes?
 
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:31 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 87):
Ok, I get the tourism part, but can a transatlantic route be viable with just low yield tourists and O&D ? Is there subsidy for those routes?

No.

High emigration + some business still in the Free Zone + misty eyed Irish Americans to whom Shannon has always been seen as the gateway to Ireland ensures there's enough demand for the flights there are. Returning emigrants aren't low yield, generally, for starters.
 
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:48 pm

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 86):
Nice article about EY. Seems very positive, more like a recruitment advert.

From friends working in EY both FA's and Pilots they do seem to be the better of the Gulf carriers in terms of treatment. It does have its bad points but so do alot of carriers.

Quoting KL911 (Reply 87):
Ok, I get the tourism part, but can a transatlantic route be viable with just low yield tourists and O&D ? Is there subsidy for those routes?

SNN still has demand for TATL but its getting the right sustainable balance. It will never be the amount that it was when carriers were forced to land there before going to DUB but there is a demand which the B757s will enable Aer Lingus to strike that balance.
 
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:12 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 88):
No.High emigration + some business still in the Free Zone + misty eyed Irish Americans to whom Shannon has always been seen as the gateway to Ireland ensures there's enough demand for the flights there are. Returning emigrants aren't low yield, generally, for starters.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 89):
SNN still has demand for TATL but its getting the right sustainable balance. It will never be the amount that it was when carriers were forced to land there before going to DUB but there is a demand which the B757s will enable Aer Lingus to strike that balance.

Thanks guys, Im getting it, kind off .  
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:47 pm

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 86):
EDIT: No subsidies are given, part from any normal new route discounts that are available to any airline new to SNN

Considering the huge losses the airport makes - nobody is paying a sustainable rate.

In summer SNN has more US frequencies than larger cities, such as Barcelona.
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:15 am

Some more recruitment opportunities from EY :

Etihad offering 50 jobs

ETIHAD Airways is to recruit at least 50 cabin crew, food and beverage managers and in-flight chefs in Dublin this week. The airline will hold an open day for prospective food and beverage managers and onboard chefs in the Burlington Hotel tomorrow, while on Wednesday it will interview those hoping to join its cabin crew.

Cabin crew candidates must apply online at [email protected] in advance and will be called for an interview.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...standoff-man-charged-29151262.html ( Scroll down page after main topic )

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Dublin Airport picks up a gong for its use of social media

Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) picked up the Communications Award at the 2013 Irish Logistics and Transport Awards this week.

The award recognises the best use of communications in the Irish logistics and transport sectors during 2012.

Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) picked up the Communications Award at the 2013 Irish Logistics and Transport Awards this week.

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/new-m...m/31991-dublin-airport-picks-up-a/

Nice to see DUB get this award. I find their social media channels very good and up to date.
 
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:16 am

It has been 45 years since the tragedy at Tuskar Rock where Aer Lingus flight 712 from Cork to Heathrow crashed into the sea.

RTE just tweeted a video of an original broadcast the day after the crash.

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2013/0325...3-45-years-since-aer-lingus-crash/

Sadly the cause of the crash still remains a mystery, most agree that structural failure caused by fatigue but at this stage it is unlikely we'll never know. The book Tragedy at Tuskar by Mike Reynolds is a very interesting read, he was involved in the 2000 report from a possible bird strike to the conspiracy theories which plagued the earlier investigations.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:59 am

Tuskar Rock seems more recent than 45 years, perhaps due to the conspiracy theories keeping it in the media. Nice to see the old footage.

Better news of a difficulty at sea today in that a yachtsman has been airlifted to safety, after his boat got into difficulty off the coast of East Cork overnight.The British man was flown to Waterford airport by the Coast Guard helicopter and the boat is being towed in.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:37 pm

Just under a week to go before EI launch AGP and FAO from BHD with PMI starting soon after.

FAO daily and AGP six weekly, I do hope they are selling enough seats with PMI having a more sensible twice weekly frequency to start with. I would have expected FAO and AGP to start with maybe 3 or 4 weekly. Enough of my ramblings;

Any update on what sort of load factors they have achieved so far?
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:19 pm

Quoting Jambost (Reply 95):

Why would they not have AGP and FAO at daily and 6 weekly, there has being no capacity change to these destionations apart from a Belfast Airport. Jet 2 only took ACE and TFS while EZY have one nothing. LF wise I understand LGW may be struggling and if the factors are good fares are very low. LHR is doing good.
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:01 pm

Quoting Jambost (Reply 95):
Just under a week to go before EI launch AGP and FAO from BHD with PMI starting soon after.

PMI should do well. Falcon are buying seats off EI . They certainly need the travel trade behind them to help put bums on seats so this should work out well for them .
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:07 pm

Nice to see SNN rolling out (pun intended) some advertising of its long haul services around Limerick:

http://i47.tinypic.com/69exr9.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/jzya81.jpg
 
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RE: Irish 4/13: The St. Patrick's Day Special

Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:24 pm

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 94):
Tuskar Rock seems more recent than 45 years, perhaps due to the conspiracy theories keeping it in the media. Nice to see the old footage.

Coincidentally enough, I was reading a book my a gentleman called Mike Reynolds (a sea captain) about the investigation carried out by a French company, Exp'air, in 2000-01. Very interesting read. It seems that the aircraft had actually been circling around and struggling for some time at low altitude around the south-east coast; some 40+ witnesses saw this, but it wasn't reported in the initial inquiry. I had always understood that it was a very sudden loss of control.

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