2013 Ncaa Tournament Charters

tsra · Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:22 pm

It is that time of the year when college basketball teams, band/cheerleaders, and alumni charter flights for the NCAA Basketball Tournament. Anyone know which schools are using which airlines for their charters? Also, if you see a charter pop up on your favorite flight tracking sites, please feel free to post here!

Rbgso · Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:55 pm

I believe a Miami Air 734 took the NC A&T Aggies from GSO to DAY this AM for the play-in game tomorrow night.

Cubsrule · Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:02 pm

Tuesday games . . .

North Carolina A&T LL 734 GSO-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130318/1200Z/KGSO/KDAY
Liberty XP 734 LYH-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...2/history/20130318/1745Z/KLYH/KDAY

Middle Tennessee State LL 734 MQY-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...9/history/20130318/1400Z/KMQY/KDAY
Saint Mary's Ameristar M83 OAK-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...2/history/20130318/1230Z/KOAK/KDAY

GuitrThree · Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:59 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
Middle Tennessee State LL 734 MQY-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.../KDAY

That flight shows a Miami Air 738... Not an LL 734

mtnwest1979 · Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:33 am

BSK also taking Boise State to Dayton this evening.

teneriffe77 · Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:50 am

Syracuse University Men's BB Sun Country 738 to San Jose, CA
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8600

bcoz · Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:41 pm

SY is taking my Mizzou Tigers from COU to LEX this evening
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8601

Cubsrule · Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:18 pm

Wednesday games . . .

LIU Brooklyn: LL 734 LGA-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK627
James Madison: World Atlantic (who are they?) M82 SHD-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/WAL626

La Salle LL 734 PHL-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...5/history/20130319/0030Z/KPHL/KDAY
Boise State LL 738 BOI-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...8/history/20130318/2200Z/KBOI/KDAY

Sligo · Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:32 pm

So it looks like one Sun Country 738 is spending a lot of time doing NCAA charters.

SCX8600 did Syracuse to SJC last night; then went back home to MSP. Now it is enroute to Ft Collins, presumably to pick up Colorado State on it's way to LEX. It then heads to COU to pick up Mizzou and head back to LEX.

KELPkid · Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:39 pm

Looks like WN is flying my New Mexico State Aggies to San Jose for the first round:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA8073

Go Aggies!

san88 · Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:45 pm

I'm working my first charter tonight. WN 8074 LAS - SJC UNLV

redzeppelin · Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:01 pm

A review of the 8 teams going to SLC:

Sun Country 738 carrying Gonzaga to SLC from GEG:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130319/2345Z/KGEG/KSLC

Southwest 737 taking UNM Lobos to SLC from ABQ:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...5/history/20130319/2030Z/KABQ/KSLC

Sun Country 738 taking Arizona Wildcats to SLC from TUS:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130320/0030Z/KTUS/KSLC

AirTran 737 taking Pitt Panthers to SLC from PIT:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/T...1/history/20130319/1930Z/KPIT/KSLC

SkyKing 734 flying BED-SLC. I assume that this is Harvard. Flight was delayed 4 hours and arrived after 02:00 local time (04:00 EDT) -- not good for the Crimson:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...9/history/20130318/2300Z/KBED/KSLC

Ameristar MD83 taking Belmont to SLC from BNA:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...3/history/20130319/1500Z/KBNA/KSLC

Southwest 737 taking Wichita State to SLC from ICT:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...7/history/20130319/1730Z/KICT/KSLC

Sun Country 738 taking the Southern U Jaguars to SLC from BTR:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130319/1700Z/KBTR/KSLC

Cubsrule · Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:28 pm

Cubsrule · Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:56 pm

Cubsrule · Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:40 pm

Tuesday losers . . .

Liberty LL 738 DAY-LYH http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...5/history/20130320/1500Z/KDAY/KLYH

Middle Tennessee State LL 738 DAY-MQY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...6/history/20130320/1400Z/KDAY/KMQY

tsra · Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:58 pm

Flights to Kansas City

The Badgers http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CXP111

Ole Miss http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CXP113

Western Kentucky http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...A/history/20130320/1730Z/KBWG/KMCI

I am really surprised these teams did not fly into the Downtown Airport because the Sprint Center is across I-70 from the airport. A 5 minute drive compaired to a 30 minute drive.

[Edited 2013-03-20 09:00:33]

DiamondFlyer · Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:10 pm

Quoting tsra (Reply 15):
I am really surprised these teams did not fly into the Downtown Airport because the Sprint Center is across I-70 from the airport. A 5 minute drive compaired to a 30 minute drive.

Doesn't make that big of difference really. They are going straight to the arena to play, so the advantage is gone. Plus MCI is set up for heavy metal, versus MKC which doesn't get it very often these days.

Also in the Kansas City bracket, I'd expect Kansas to drive, since its all of about 30 miles.

-DiamondFlyer

tsra · Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:59 pm

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 16):

I reason I bring this up is all of the Big 12 teams (that flew a chartered aircraft) flew into the Downtown Airport. I am a "friend" on their Facebook page which showed 732, 734, and MD80 charters (along with some F/A-18s and a C-17). https://www.facebook.com/mkcairport

I am local to Kansas City and know when the teams land, they will take I-29 to HWY 169 right passed the Downtown Airport on their way to the Sprint Center. Besides, I wanted to see bigger planes out my loft overlooking the airport.

[Edited 2013-03-20 10:01:09]

Cubsrule · Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:08 pm

Friday games:

Albany
Duke

Wisconsin: XP 734 MSN-MCI http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...1/history/20130320/1600Z/KMSN/KMCI
Mississippi: XP 734 TUP-MCI http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...3/history/20130320/2030Z/KTUP/KMCI

Temple: SY 738 PHL-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130320/2100Z/KPHL/KDAY
North Carolina State:SY 738 RDU-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130320/2130Z/KRDU/KDAY

Pacific:
Miami: Ameristar M83 MIA-AUS http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...5/history/20130320/1700Z/KMIA/KAUS (interesting route; obviously not an overwater equipped aircraft)

Cincinnati: DL 320 CVG-PHL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...3/history/20130320/1600Z/KCVG/KPHL
Creighton: WN 73G OMA-PHL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130320/1230Z/KOMA/KPHL

Kansas State: Driving to Kansas City

Indiana: Driving to Dayton
LIU Brooklyn/James Madison: Already in Dayton

Colorado:
Illinois: WN 73G CMI-AUS http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...8/history/20130320/1500Z/KCMI/KAUS (first WN charter that does not include 2 WN stations, I think)

Florida Gulf Coast: G4 M88 RSW-PHL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...2/history/20130320/1300Z/KRSW/KPHL
Georgetown: Probably driving or traveling commercial to Philadelphia

Iona: Ameristar 732 HPN-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...6/history/20130320/1900Z/KHPN/KDAY (HPN NIMBYs must be thrilled)
Ohio State: Driving to Dayton

Villanova: WN 73G PHL-MCI http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...3/history/20130320/1630Z/KPHL/KMCI
North Carolina:

Northwestern State:
Florida: AA M82 GNV-AUS http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...5/history/20130320/1900Z/KGNV/KAUS

Oklahoma: WN 73G OKC-PHL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...2/history/20130320/1900Z/KOKC/KPHL
San Diego State:

Iowa State: V2 734 DSM-DAY http://flightaware.com/live/flight/R...1/history/20130320/1800Z/KDSM/KDAY
Notre Dame: Maybe driving to Dayton

Western Kentucky: CRJ N97EA BWG-MCI http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N.../history/20130320/1730Z/KBWG/KMCI. I am interested in what anyone knows about this aircraft, which also took Davidson JQF-LEX yesterday and looks like it may be going to pick up Notre Dame next.
Kansas: Driving to Kansas City

Minnesota: WN 73G MSP-AUS http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...1/history/20130320/1700Z/KMSP/KAUS
UCLA:

Quoting tsra (Reply 15):
I am really surprised these teams did not fly into the Downtown Airport because the Sprint Center is across I-70 from the airport. A 5 minute drive compaired to a 30 minute drive.

With limited exceptions (BED/BOS this year), NCAA charters tend to stick to main airports more than a lot of other sports charters. I don't know why.

There also seems to be a lot more commercial flying this year and a lot less use of tertiary airports. It appears that most of the Auburn Hills teams flew commercial to Detroit, and I can't find flights for several Philadelphia teams or for UCLA, which will be doing LAX-AUS, a route with a ton of service. In fact, with a few exceptions (e.g. Northwestern State), all of the missing charters above may be teams flying commercial.

redzeppelin · Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:39 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 18):
Western Kentucky: CRJ N97EA BWG-MCI ...
I am interested in what anyone knows about this aircraft, which also took Davidson JQF-LEX yesterday and looks like it may be going to pick up Notre Dame next.

Seems to be operated by Elite Airways.

That aircraft appears in a photo on their website:
http://eliteairways.net.s144274.gridserver.com/charter-services/

More info:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bfiguy/8188748107/
http://www.eliteairways.net/

[Edited 2013-03-20 11:42:55]

[Edited 2013-03-20 11:47:34]

mtnwest1979 · Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:34 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 18):
Illinois: WN 73G CMI-AUS http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...8/history/20130320/1500Z/KCMI/KAUS (first WN charter that does not include 2 WN stations, I think)

Do you mean for NCAAs or in general?
There are many WN charters that involve non-WN stations.

Cubsrule · Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:40 pm

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 20):
Do you mean for NCAAs or in general?

For NCAAs. Look at the other flights - LAS-SJC, ABQ-SLC, etc.

tsra · Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:58 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 18):

Great observation with the NCAA only using the big airports and more focus on teams flying commercial. Anyone know why this is true?

Great work, by the way, Cubsrule of picking up all of the NCAA charters!

usflyguy · Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:32 pm

ICT isn't yet a WN station.

teneriffe77 · Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:56 am

In women's BB Syracuse took another Sun Country 738 this afternoon to TYS
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8699

B727LVR · Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:47 am

Quoting tsra (Reply 22):
Great observation with the NCAA only using the big airports and more focus on teams flying commercial. Anyone know why this is true?

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 18):
With limited exceptions (BED/BOS this year), NCAA charters tend to stick to main airports more than a lot of other sports charters. I don't know why.

One thing could be, these larger airports tend to have better services than most of the smaller airports. If a plane goes mechanical, its easier to work it at a major airport vice a GA FBO. Also depending on how the teams are loaded and unloaded, if they use a vacant gate, or gate that doesn't get used as much, its easier and quicker for the charter company to process the team through TSA. Much easier to use a set up designed for high traffic, than setting up folding tables in a FBO, wanding and hand searching the bags.

KBUF · Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:02 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 13):
San Diego State
Michigan: Driving to Auburn Hills

Michigan's playing South Dakota State, not San Diego State.

Cubsrule · Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:16 pm

Cubsrule · Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:59 pm

Quoting KBUF (Reply 26):
Michigan's playing South Dakota State, not San Diego State.

It helps to look in the right state . . . South Dakota State flew SY FSD-DTW http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130319/1900Z/KFSD/KDTW

Wednesday losers:

Boise State FL 73G DAY-BOI http://flightaware.com/live/flight/T...4/history/20130321/1400Z/KDAY/KBOI

LIU Brooklyn: LL 738 DAY-LGA http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...5/history/20130321/1500Z/KDAY/KLGA

BAC111 · Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:20 pm

Cubsrule:

Thanks for all of your efforts on this. I always find these NCAA flights interesting.

I think my alma mater Albany must have bussed to Phila for its game Fri. No obvious ALB-PHL charter is appearing.

Jet13 · Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:23 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 28):
Quoting KBUF (Reply 26):Michigan's playing South Dakota State, not San Diego State.
It helps to look in the right state . . . South Dakota State flew SY FSD-DTW http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S.../KDTW

Was going to post that!

#runrabbits lets go state!

-Nick

Cubsrule · Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:24 pm

Quoting BAC111 (Reply 29):
Thanks for all of your efforts on this. I always find these NCAA flights interesting.

You're welcome. One (less obvious) interesting thing to do is to take a look at some of the old threads on charters to see how things have changed. It wasn't that long ago that well more than half of charters were handled by scheduled carriers. Now, Xtra, Miami Air International and Sun Country seem to be the biggest players.

usflyguy · Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:26 pm

It's interesting the SY, with a fleet as small as they have, have extra a/c to do these charters during the spring break season.

KELPkid · Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:09 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 31):

You're welcome. One (less obvious) interesting thing to do is to take a look at some of the old threads on charters to see how things have changed. It wasn't that long ago that well more than half of charters were handled by scheduled carriers. Now, Xtra, Miami Air International and Sun Country seem to be the biggest players.

Until they went under, Champion Air was a huge player in NCAA sports charters. They usually had the contract for flying home the losers in the NCAA tounament

EDIT: Ironic, given their name... Big grin

[Edited 2013-03-21 13:19:55]

alphaomega · Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:02 am

North American has N764NA operating SLC-BOS tomorrow - bringing back Harvard?

usflyguy · Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:22 am

SY 8650 is currently running SLC-BNA. Bringing Belmont home I'm guessing.

usflyguy · Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:26 am

Allegiant 4616 is running SJC-SWO... Oklahoma State going home

LV · Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:50 am

I am really suprised at the lack of flights G4 is doing this year. I only saw one in the rundown... for FGCU going RSW to PHL. Did G4 not bid or is it too busy with other work right now?

Ont2CGi · Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:47 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 27):
Friday games (updated):

Albany

UAlbany charted a bus for both the Men's and Women's teams.

http://www.timesunion.com/sports/art...is-first-foe-for-Danes-4361664.php

Cubsrule · Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:18 pm

Quoting alphaomega (Reply 34):
North American has N764NA operating SLC-BOS tomorrow - bringing back Harvard?

A hair presumptuous? But New Mexico got a sweet ride out of the deal.

KELPkid · Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:52 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 39):
New Mexico State Ameristar M83 SJC-ELP http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A.../KELP

Noooo.....

So much for my Alma Mater

wjcandee · Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:11 am

I guess that a.net hasn't kept up with the BSK change in IATA code from "GL" to "LL". Our site seems to still think that LL is Allegro Air.

[Edited 2013-03-22 20:12:53]

Cubsrule · Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:17 pm

Cubsrule · Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:15 pm

gators312 · Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:57 am

Normally AA carries the Gators, and did so to Austin.

Seems as if Allegiant took them back to GNV

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...5/history/20130325/0320Z/KAUS/KGNV

Cubsrule · Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:41 pm

Cubsrule · Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:45 am

Thursday Games (Sweet 16)

Marquette: SY 738 MKE-IAD http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130326/2100Z/KMKE/KIAD
Miami: DL 320 MIA-IAD http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...0/history/20130326/2200Z/KMIA/KIAD

Arizona: G4 M83 TUS-LAX http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...2/history/20130327/0200Z/KTUS/KLAX
Ohio State: SY 738 CMH-LAX http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130326/1730Z/KCMH/KLAX

Syracuse:SY 738 MKE-IAD http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...1/history/20130326/2100Z/KSYR/KIAD
Indiana: SY 738 BMG-IAD http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130326/1330Z/KBMG/KIAD

La Salle: ? Total puzzle to me. I see a sort of matched pair of an XP 734 PHL-CMH (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CXP8111/history/20130326/0100Z/KPHL/KCMH) and a G4 M87 CMH-LAX (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4425/history/20130326/0359Z/KCMH/KLAX) last night, but that's a heck of a rough way to travel.
Wichita State: XP 734 ICT-LAX http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...4/history/20130326/2200Z/KICT/KLAX

redzeppelin · Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:55 pm

Lest we forget about the other post-season basketball tournaments in progress, here's a unique charter flight from the NIT. BYU is playing at Southern Miss tonight in the NIT quarterfinals. The Salt Lake Tribune reports that BYU's team took a charter yesterday direct from PVU (Provo, UT) to PIB (Hattiesburg, MS). Two planes flew that route yesterday, a Falcon 900 (N72PX) in the afternoon and a Learjet 60 (N212JA) late at night. I'm assuming that the team was on the Falcon 900. The Tribune report further mentioned that the support staff took a commercial flight.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...X/history/20130326/2200Z/KPVU/KPIB

[Edited 2013-03-27 15:24:02]

RICBWI · Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:57 pm

I believe I heard LaSalle was going straight to Los Angeles and not going back to Philly.

Cubsrule · Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:20 pm

Friday games

Oregon: XP 734 EUG-IND http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...2/history/20130327/1500Z/KEUG/KIND
Louisville: Bus to Indianapolis

Michigan: SY 738 YIP-DFW http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...0/history/20130328/0000Z/KYIP/KDFW
Kansas: AA M83 FOE-DFW http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...6/history/20130327/2000Z/KFOE/KDFW

Michigan State: Bus to Indianapolis
Duke: LL 738 RDU-IND http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130327/2300Z/KRDU/KIND

Florida Gulf Coast: WN 73G RSW-DAL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...9/history/20130327/2130Z/KRSW/KDAL
Florida: ?

Quoting RICBWI (Reply 48):
I believe I heard LaSalle was going straight to Los Angeles and not going back to Philly.

So much for the student part of student athlete.

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