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MAN News 49

Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:21 am

Seems #48 is archived and I can't find a current thread.

Some good news from Thomas Cook:

Quote:
Thomas Cook Airlines has today announced a range of new flights to the Caribbean from Manchester Airport.

The new Manchester routes on offer are the only flights available to holidaymakers outside London to St Lucia and Antigua and Thomas Cook Airlines is one of only a handful of airlines flying to Barbados.

Commencing Sunday November 10th 2013, the weekly Manchester-St Lucia-Barbados flight will operate on a specifically configured Boeing A330 aircraft, with the additional Manchester-Antigua-Barbados flight operating from Thursday December 19th.

Flights will depart late morning from Manchester, allowing travellers to benefit from a wide range of connections from regional airports across the UK
http://www.travelbite.co.uk/travel-n...unches-new-flights-from-manchester

It's shaping up to be a great year for MAN.

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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:45 am

Fantastic! especially for the boeing a330  
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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:57 am

Quoting blueshamu330s (Thread starter):
Some good news from Thomas Cook:

Quote:
Thomas Cook Airlines has today announced a range of new flights to the Caribbean from Manchester Airport.

The new Manchester routes on offer are the only flights available to holidaymakers outside London to St Lucia and Antigua and Thomas Cook Airlines is one of only a handful of airlines flying to Barbados.

Commencing Sunday November 10th 2013, the weekly Manchester-St Lucia-Barbados flight will operate on a specifically configured Boeing A330 aircraft, with the additional Manchester-Antigua-Barbados flight operating from Thursday December 19th.

Flights will depart late morning from Manchester, allowing travellers to benefit from a wide range of connections from regional airports across the UK
http://www.travelbite.co.uk/travel-n...unches-new-flights-from-manchester

It's shaping up to be a great year for MAN.

Might try them to ANU later in the year. Would have preferred if VS had done it though.



Quoting woady (Reply 1):
especially for the boeing a330  

LOL   
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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:09 am

An homage to airtravel and widebody development this new "Boeing" should be something special !

Regrettably its just G-WWBM returning to roost after such a successful trip "darn souf" and subsequently forced summer sabbatical !

A frame very well accustomed to trawling those routes !
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:35 am

Interesting for TCX

I presume they have this A330 on better terms than the two they returned last year.

So what does the specially configured entail? Are they going to retain premium as TOM has?
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:23 am

Jet 2 are to axe MAN-TLV from November. It looks like EZY has won the battle of the budget carriers on this route.

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/10...e-jet2-end-manchester-israel-route

I wonder if FR will now pick-up from LS, as I know it's been rumoured they've been talking to TLV recently??
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:20 am

Quoting liverpoola380 (Reply 4):
So what does the specially configured entail? Are they going to retain premium as TOM has?

The information has it at 34" seat pitch, no premium 3-3-3 and no seat back ife
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:58 am

Quoting destinations (Reply 6):
The information has it at 34" seat pitch, no premium 3-3-3 and no seat back ife

31-33" is being given by TCX, all economy with mainscrean IFE. 34" sounds a littler generous! Having flown on G-WWBM to ANU in the bmi days, she was a nice bird when they were around with 32" seat pitch down the back and basic seat back IFE. Lack of seat back IFE isn't going down too well with those interested in these routes from the customers I've seen but at least it puts 2 more Caribbean islands on the MAN map. Having been to both St Lucia and Antigua in the past, both are excellent destinations and great to see them back as options.

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RE: MAN News 49

Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:25 pm

Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 7):
31-33" is being given by TCX, all economy with mainscrean IFE. 34" sounds a littler generous! Having flown on G-WWBM to ANU in the bmi days, she was a nice bird when they were around with 32" seat pitch down the back and basic seat back IFE. Lack of seat back IFE isn't going down too well with those interested in these routes from the customers I've seen but at least it puts 2 more Caribbean islands on the MAN map. Having been to both St Lucia and Antigua in the past, both are excellent destinations and great to see them back as options.

Darren

Am i correct in thinking bmi did have seat back IFE i wonder why that wouldn't be utlitised, very strange decision if you ask me.
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:29 pm

Quoting destinations (Reply 8):
Am i correct in thinking bmi did have seat back IFE i wonder why that wouldn't be utlitised, very strange decision if you ask me.

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Seat back IFE throughout although it wasn't AVOD, it was a more basic looped system (in economy anyway). I'm assuming is has a more basic interior fitted now as bmi had a 2-4-2 configuration in Y, TCX will have 3-3-3 so it won't be the same seats installed.

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RE: MAN News 49

Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:32 pm

Got some nice charters this summer too. Check these out:

Jet Airways are operating 2 charters this year for Gorton Globetrotters (whoever they are). Flights arrive from Delhi and then onward to Miami for the first and Durban (South Africa) for the second flight. The arrivals, however, are from different places on the return legs. First is from Newark and second is from Seoul!

Thomas Cook have had to call in other operators to cover their summer 2013 schedule. This summer we'll see the likes of Pegasus. Freebird Airlines and Onur Air operating to Turkey, as well as Orbest Orizonia operating to Majorca and Lanzarote. Interesting that Orbest are the chosen operators for those routes as didn't they go bust recently?

TAP Portugal are increasing their flights using a whole host of Airbus aircraft ranging from the A319 to A321, plus the odd Fokker 100 now and again.

Delta are going to use an A330-200 instead of the usual B767-400 to Atlanta

Nouvelair Tunisie are back with their Djerba charters

New Flybe service to Waterford starts May 22 using Dash 8's

Aegean start Athens as well as their charters to/from Kefalonia this summer

The American 767 is back on the Chicago route for the summer

Jet2 introduce the New York shopping spree to Manchester for the Christmas period (God, the thought of Christmas already)

Plus a couple of flight number changes as both United Airlines and Qatar Airways swap some numbers around. Sounds like the operations dude got bored this year.

That's all from me as of now. Happy spotting!
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RE: MAN News 49

Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:53 pm

Are Jet2 operating to NYC?
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:27 pm

MAN - HAM transfers to Germanwings on the 29th January 2014. It's such a shame that TXL was pulled. No date as yet for MAN - DUS.

http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/j...ng%20%28jpg%29

Quoting liverpoola380 (Reply 11):
Are Jet2 operating to NYC?

Nearly.......to Newark, one flight on the 21st November, and another on the 12th December. As listed on their website, easy to find if you look  
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:52 pm

What does the future hold for the US MAN-PHL route given;
-AstraZeneca are severely scaling back their Cheshire operations which provided the rout with significant traffic (including premium seats)
-The US and AA merger

Could the route be shut down or downgraded to a US762 or AA752 post merger?
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:12 pm

Vast majority of pax on USAirways these days are connecting to Florida, Vegas, Phoenix or California.

Astra have used the service less and less over the past 2 years, to the point I don't believe they are of any significance to the route's success.

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RE: MAN News 49

Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:29 pm

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 13):
What does the future hold for the US MAN-PHL route given;

I remember someone mentioned on the Forums here that MAN-PHL is quite profitable. I hope the route stays around and on an A333!
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RE: MAN News 49

Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:57 pm

I didnt think the configuration and IFE had been decided on the Winter TCX A330 yet
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:16 pm

Astra helped US in the earlier years, to keep the route profitable on an A330. But as BlueShamu mentioned above, it really now has become an alternative to the other legacies for families, businessmen, solo travellers etc in getting to and from America. Take Astra out of the equation and I think the route will be just fine. In regards to the US/AA tie up, who knows further down the line. They may want the heavy metal going to ORD and JFK but I still don't see the PHL being pulled even then.
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RE: MAN News 49

Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:00 pm

Quoting by738 (Reply 16):
I didnt think the configuration and IFE had been decided on the Winter TCX A330 yet

TCX are advising at the point of booking about the configuration and lack of seat back IFE on the routes / flights operated by the ex-bmi A332 so I'd say it's pretty much so now. The other A332's in their fleet aren't changing.

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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:14 am

Bit poor of TCX really to bring a new aircraft into the fleet and not kit it out properly. A bit slap dash in my opinion.

Any news when they will start taking some new 321's or are they deffering more to MON?

I saw the MON A332 in the Air Livery hanger yesterday judging by the tail it looks like it is now in the latest livery.

FR also seems to be camping out where AA normally park in T3 I presume this is becuase of the proximity to the remote stands.
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:48 pm

Thomas Cook have made a statement on their Facebook page about the A330s to be used:

Quote:

Thomas Cook UK Hello, all of our new destinations will operate out of Manchester on our A330 aircrafts which do have seat back TV's. We are looking into connecting flights from other airports and these will show on our website should they be confirmed.
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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:40 pm

Customer service knows nothing.
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:16 pm

So an extra Jamaica and Puerto Vallarta flight added by TOM for Summer 14.
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:53 am

Maybe we will see a passenger service direct to China

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ag-aims-direct-route-china-2769566
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RE: MAN News 49

Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:22 am

With the 787 due to be certified next week for entry back into service I wonder if we will see any TOM 787's in MAN before August?
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:39 pm

Some mouth watering spotting opportunity then ! up for the summer (if we really get summer) !

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 13):

Traffic between MAN-PHL belong to this company ? is it really that much that US airways is putting A330 for that reason? I wasn't aware of this.
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:43 pm

Why have BE closed their lounge at MAN. Is it a permanent move, or is it just a refurb?

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/manweb.nsf/content/flybelounge
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:55 pm

Quoting Mattuk (Reply 26):
Why have BE closed their lounge at MAN. Is it a permanent move, or is it just a refurb?

Permanent closure. It's becoming another characterless "Escape" lounge.

Customers travelling on Flybe, who are eligible for lounge access can use the facilities in the other Escape lounge at Gate 8 which was once the bmi lounge.

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RE: MAN News 49

Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:59 pm

I have never used the BE lounge only the BA but when you look across it always seemed busy.

So T3 will have two escape lounges now?

I have to say the food and snacks on offer in the escape lounge are somewhat better than the BA Terrace lounge in Manchester
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:25 pm

Jet2 start a Fuerteventura (FUE) service from April 4, 2014. Flights depart around 2pm on Fridays arriving back in MAN around midnight. I presume this will either be a 737-800 or what I hope for a 757-200 service. Other airlines do this flight on Wed and Sat, so interesting to see Jet2 breaking the trend.
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RE: MAN News 49

Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:08 pm

There's a recent trip report which describes a lightly loaded SQ MAN - MUC flight. I had a look at the CAA figures for March which report 8566 passengers on MAN - SIN, which equates to 138 passengers each way (excluding MUC passengers). LHR services increased by 17%, whereas our decreased from March '12 by 3%. As ever, very concerning.

Last month a few members of my extended family flew to Singapore on two separate flights, both parties travelled to London first because they said 'there aren't any direct flights', meaning there weren't any non-stop flights.
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:32 pm

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 30):
Last month a few members of my extended family flew to Singapore on two separate flights, both parties travelled to London first because they said 'there aren't any direct flights', meaning there weren't any non-stop flights.

So instead of stopping in MUC, they stopped in London? Might as well of flown from MAN then. Either way a stop is involved, or the inconvenience of travelling to London.

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 27):
Permanent closure. It's becoming another characterless "Escape" lounge.

I wonder why the Air France lounge didn't move across from T2 to T3 when AF and KL moved terminals?
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RE: MAN News 49

Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:44 pm

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 30):
CAA figures for March which report 8566 passengers on MAN - SIN, which equates to 138 passengers each way (excluding MUC passengers). LHR services increased by 17%, whereas our decreased from March '12 by 3%. As ever, very concerning.

Last month a few members of my extended family flew to Singapore on two separate flights, both parties travelled to London first because they said 'there aren't any direct flights', meaning there weren't any non-stop flights.

That's 50% of available plus healthy pallet loads i am not concerned by those numbers.

More concerned by your extended family and probably poor service from travel agents and/or those crap comparison web sites.

There is no way that traveling via London could be any quicker or less hassle than the daily direct service. even with the break at Munich

Right up to a few days ago even BA required a Terminal transfer T5-T3 !
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:18 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 32):
That's 50% of available plus healthy pallet loads i am not concerned by those numbers.

More concerned by your extended family and probably poor service from travel agents and/or those crap comparison web sites.

There is no way that traveling via London could be any quicker or less hassle than the daily direct service. even with the break at Munich

Right up to a few days ago even BA required a Terminal transfer T5-T3 !

Well that's reassuring; as has been pointed out before, SQ will block seats and allocate accordingly from both MAN and MUC. I'm pretty sure they have a better grasp of their own yield management than I have!

Quoting LuftyMatt (Reply 31):
So instead of stopping in MUC, they stopped in London? Might as well of flown from MAN then. Either way a stop is involved, or the inconvenience of travelling to London.

Indeed, it's an eternal problem. There is still a perception that for long haul, you use LON.

Another geriatric family member is also travelling to SIN this year, and I've explained the options........ via LHR which he favours (unsure about connecting at foreign airports, and hates too many landings and take offs!), the SQ via MUC option, and the AUH/DXB/DOH options. I've agreed to look into fares for him, and decided to offer to pay the difference if SQ is more expensive.
 
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RE: MAN News 49

Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:25 pm

More generic (but related to MAN nonetheless), but I understand that from next March Thomas Cook Airlines will be routing their Florida flights into MCO instead of SFB. Flights into MCO for March and April are now available to book on flythomascook.com

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