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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sat May 11, 2013 10:09 pm

Some bizzare incident happened at DUB this morning. Apperently a car flipped over outside T2.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0511/391671-rta/
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun May 12, 2013 12:17 am

Quoting aer lingus (Reply 150):
DL restarted their seasonal daily SNN-JFK service today; it runs until mid-September. The route's average load factor last summer was 91% and SFO, MCO and LAS are among the most popular onward connections for SNN passengers.

Good to hear that DL are doing well (at least during the summer) at SNN. They are afterall the longest serving US airline at SNN. A 91% load factor would also indicate that Business Class demand must be fairly good on their SNN-JFK flights. I wonder if there is any possibility of SNN-ATL returning for S14?
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun May 12, 2013 9:58 am

Glad to see this finally up and running. Hopefully it will be rolled out to all areas sooner rather than later. The UK has had them for some time now and its proved a great success. I used the ones at LGW last week and was from the aircraft to the train station in less than 10 minutes.

I would also like to see a priority channel for J Class/Gold card holders and maybe a subscription service for frequent flyers.

Dublin Airport testing 'self-service' border control

A six-month trial of "self-service" automated border control gates has started at Terminal One in Dublin Airport.
This will mean that holders of Irish, EU, EEA and Swiss passports aged over 18 will not be required to present themselves to an Immigration Officer.

Instead they will have the picture on their passport verified electronically.
The e-gates will be located at Pier A to Pier D in Terminal One, which facilitates the entry of 4.4m passengers to the State every year.

The e-gate trial is being run in co-operation with the Dublin Airport Authority.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0510/391...border-control-for-dublin-airport/
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun May 12, 2013 12:45 pm

Aer Lingus have this morning re-opened the Cadet Pilot Training Programme for 2013, with details posted on their Facebook page earlier. An interesting career path for anyone interested I'm sure!

http://careers.aerlingus.com/careers-in-the-air/cadet-pilots/

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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun May 12, 2013 2:14 pm

Looks like BE are leaving LGW, so it good for EI at BHD where LGW has being doing very bad however I'm not sure that BE are the problem, IMO its the serous over capacity on Belfast to London market and Easyjet over at BFS. Wonder will this have any affect on the future of EI service from BHD or have they made a decision already. FR are also after the 25 BE slots....
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun May 12, 2013 2:20 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 152):
I used the ones at LGW last week and was from the aircraft to the train station in less than 10 minutes.

So 3 minutes slower than normal then?  



(that is of course the domestic/Irish arrivals speed, the UKBA queues can be horrific)
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun May 12, 2013 7:56 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 155):
So 3 minutes slower than normal then?  

Sometimes it can be quite a bit longer especially if you have people that are intent of holding up the ROI line. I was lucky I managed to make an earlier train. Sometimes a few mins can mean all the difference  
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Sun May 12, 2013 9:49 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 156):
Sometimes it can be quite a bit longer especially if you have people that are intent of holding up the ROI line. I was lucky I managed to make an earlier train. Sometimes a few mins can mean all the difference  

The specific flight I use a lot comes in when there's no others that qualify, and I try and get as close to the front as possible. Those few minutes mean getting a Southern (much, much better) rather than a First Capital train, and ensures I get to the Amex on time!
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Mon May 13, 2013 9:30 am

Hi all,

I'm relatively new to all this. I'm a Belfast local. Not surprised to hear that the London-Belfast routes are over capacity. Are airliners frightened of losing slots at those airports? Who is filling most of the seats on the BHD-LHR route?

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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Mon May 13, 2013 12:21 pm

I see that today's EI362 to Warsaw has been operated by Titan's 767. Does anyone know the reason?
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Mon May 13, 2013 12:29 pm

Quoting Danny (Reply 159):

Not sure of the reason but EI had 2 aircraft tech in Amsterdam and Paris on Saturday, another had a brid strike on Saturday, last nights BCN-DUB was delayed by about 4h30m because of tech problems. Would imagine its aircraft problems or crewing problems. EI-DVF which left the EI fleet on 15 April has left DUB to return to leasor this morning. All these sub operatores are going to cost EI, over the last few weeks Titan have operated many flights for EI because of their problems.

[Edited 2013-05-13 05:30:36]
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Mon May 13, 2013 1:54 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 157):
Those few minutes mean getting a Southern (much, much better)

I seem always to have cancellations and delays with Southern . Lost £10 last week because of them. Still not worth the hassle of claiming back via their long refund process.

Quoting linco22 (Reply 158):
Who is filling most of the seats on the BHD-LHR route?

Well exact figures are obviously commercially sensitive. Ive heard some numbers mentioned but BA seem to be holding their own.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 1:27 am

Any thoughts of the roll out image of the A350-900 and how it would look in EI colors?

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/5/8/2260853.jpg

It is a thumbs up from me, just love that nose. Will we see the current classic EI livery or will they whip up a new modernised masterpiece for such a great looking aircraft?
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 8:22 am

I see TS have resumed their summer SNN-YYZ service as of today. With DL having started earlier this week, US due to start next week and SNN-ORD with UA commencing in June as well as the other new UK and European services that have started/are about to start, SNN's arrivals/departures boards are looking much less barren than they have in the recent past (specially this past winter).
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 9:43 am

Quoting Jambost (Reply 162):
It is a thumbs up from me, just love that nose. Will we see the current classic EI livery or will they whip up a new modernised masterpiece for such a great looking aircraft?

Let's hope they keep the current livery. Any update would probably mean a whole load of white and that should be avoided!
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 10:41 am

Quoting Jambost (Reply 162):

Love it and cant wait too see it in Aer Lingus livery. Also looking forward to any new products EI will offer along with it.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 11:45 am

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 164):
Let's hope they keep the current livery. Any update would probably mean a whole load of white and that should be avoided!

I'm with you on this point.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 11:47 am

For those of you who use Twitter, @AerLingus has become active and is tweeting like there is no tomorrow since yesterday.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 12:42 pm

A good measure of the extent of the freefall of the Celtic Tiger is given in the Irish Air Letter current issue

Small helicopters registered in Ireland (below 2,250kg)
In 2008 = 107, in 2012 = 32. Over this size, heli numbers have only halved, going from 31 to 15.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 1:42 pm

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 168):
A good measure of the extent of the freefall of the Celtic Tiger is given in the Irish Air Letter current issue

Small helicopters registered in Ireland (below 2,250kg)
In 2008 = 107, in 2012 = 32. Over this size, heli numbers have only halved, going from 31 to 15.

Yeah, it was one of the "must have" accessories of property developers, most of which have fled to far off shores leaving only the echoes of rotary blades over a haunted ghost estate landscape behind them. 
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 7:56 pm

I think it will look great; it's a fine looking aircraft. It wouldn't surprise me if EI introduced a new livery

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 166):
Let's hope they keep the current livery. Any update would probably mean a whole load of white and that should be avoided!I'm with you on this point.

I agree; sadly, there are so many "bleh" liveries around at the moment; I was at LHR yesterday and saw the JAL 77W come in; MY GOD, how did they come up with something as unimaginative as that? White, "Japan Airlines" titles and then, the crane on the tail; clearly, they didn't waste any money on it ... and Finnair isn't much better. And as for IB's proposed new scheme ... ay carumba!

Let's hope that if they do something new for the A350, that it will be something imaginative ...

Still wondering what kind of config they'll be going for; it will almost certainly be 9 abreast in Y Class; perhaps we'll see the launch of a premium Y service?
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 9:47 pm

Just reading an article on VS' "Little Red" operation and it got me thinking; do EI pilots operating these flights have to wear VS uniforms as the cabin crew do? Seeing as the pilots are hardly seen at all compared to the crew I don't know how economical that would be.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 170):
White, "Japan Airlines" titles and then, the crane on the tail; clearly, they didn't waste any money on it

It's literally a step backwards in time. JL had that livery before the "Rising Sun" one (which I think looked great). Then they underwent a massive restructuring and launched that old crane livery again - it looks terrible and old fashioned I think. One would have thought they'd go for a more modern look to symbolise a new beginning for them...

Also keeping to the A350 roll-out discussion - does this signal the beginning of the end for the three A330-200s in EI's fleet? EI-LAX and EI-DAA are shoving on a bit now in comparison with their -300 counterparts and with the 757 operation (and presumably A321NEOs succeeding them) and the A350 order will there be an issue with over-capacity in the EI longhaul fleet? Wouldn't the A321NEO (~200 seats), A330-300 (322 seats) and A350-900 (~366 seats) be varied enough to support EI's future longhaul needs?
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 9:53 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 171):

They stay in EI uniforms. Much like RE pilots remain in re uniforms!
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 9:57 pm

It's still a couple of years off before Aer Lingus receive their first A350, I think 2015 is the current date but we all know how that can change so a livery/brand update could be possible in that time, even just to mark their arrival. I think the question is whether they embark on a complete and very expensive brand refresh or a just livery update like what KLM did a few years ago when they made the cheatlines narrower and dropped the window stripe.

I'd rather they just stick to what they have, still looks great and stands out even more with all these white liveries invading airports. Keep it green!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 171):
Just reading an article on VS' "Little Red" operation and it got me thinking; do EI pilots operating these flights have to wear VS uniforms as the cabin crew do? Seeing as the pilots are hardly seen at all compared to the crew I don't know how economical that would be.

It's Aer Lingus uniform, in a video I've seen with the pilots of Little Red they were wearing Aer Lingus lanyards and ties.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Tue May 14, 2013 11:33 pm

Advert from this month's edition of UA's inflight magazine Hemispheres:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2vi1mpg.jpg

There's also an article about a family event in Newcastle West, Co. Limerick as part of The Gathering. Some nice publicity by UA.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 1:47 am

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 173):
It's still a couple of years off before Aer Lingus receive their first A350, I think 2015 is the current date but we all know how that can change so a livery/brand update could be possible in that time,

It has changed and it will be 2016 before the first two arrive then the rest in 2018 and 2019.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 8:21 am

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 171):

Also keeping to the A350 roll-out discussion - does this signal the beginning of the end for the three A330-200s in EI's fleet? EI-LAX and EI-DAA are shoving on a bit now in comparison with their -300 counterparts and with the 757 operation (and presumably A321NEOs succeeding them) and the A350 order will there be an issue with over-capacity in the EI longhaul fleet? Wouldn't the A321NEO (~200 seats), A330-300 (322 seats) and A350-900 (~366 seats) be varied enough to support EI's future longhaul needs?

I think the -200's days are numbered at EI, they just have no real need for them. The -300 series has improved so much since those first early models that EI had in the beginning. The latest -300's can now comfortably cover SFO or LAX if they were to come back.
Maybe they will hang on to the -200's for wet leasing out to 3rd parties..
I'm still hoping Airbus will do an A330NEO because i think that is the perfect aircraft for EI rather than the A350.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 10:39 am

Good news for BHD-LBA route :

Airline snaps up 'spare' Leeds flights after departure of Jet2

A RIVAL airline and airport have snapped up an extra Belfast to Leeds Bradford slot after Jet2.com withdrew the route from Belfast International Airport.

Flybe said it is increasing its existing weekday frequency from George Best Belfast City Airport to Leeds Bradford from three to four flights a day with immediate effect.

The new mid-morning service leaves Belfast at 11.20am, arriving at the Yorkshire airport at 12.25pm, providing up to 24 return flights per week.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/bu...er-departure-of-jet2-29267611.html

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Ulster airport staff ban Green Lantern man's stag mask

A Londonderry man's weekend plans were left in tatters after airport security confiscated his homemade superhero mask which they said could be used to conceal his identity on board the plane, writes John Mulgrew

Ricky Kyle (23), was due to don a Green Lantern costume, complete with trademark mask lovingly made by his mum, for a stag do in Rugby, England. The theme, was dress as your favourite superhero. But the student's plans hit a snag when staff at City of Derry Airport confiscated the mask last month, claiming it "could be used to conceal his identity" while on board the flight to Birmingham.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...ntern-mans-stag-mask-29264069.html

Bit of a weird one ! Could they not have just offered to give it back after arriving in BHX ?
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 11:09 am

I feel sorry for the guy, airport security has gone way overboard with everyone is a potential terrorist. I am sure if they search his bag I am sure they would not find any weapons. Also they could have offered to put it in his checked in baggage, or offered to check his baggage in for him, thus by passing any so called threat they thought was there.
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 11:22 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 177):
A Londonderry man's weekend plans were left in tatters after airport security confiscated his homemade superhero mask which they said could be used to conceal his identity on board the plane, writes John Mulgrew
Quoting nightfox365 (Reply 178):
Also they could have offered to put it in his checked in baggage, or offered to check his baggage in for him, thus by passing any so called threat they thought was there.

And the fact that he was a ticketed pax on the flight may have allowed them to have some clue as to his actual identity...........muppets!!




Some Gathering news for those Irish plane nuts among us........Sept 15th a flypast of Dublin city centre is planned:
http://www.flightfest.ie/
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 1:19 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 170):
I think it will look great; it's a fine looking aircraft. It wouldn't surprise me if EI introduced a new livery
Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 173):
I'd rather they just stick to what they have, still looks great and stands out even more with all these white liveries invading airports. Keep it green!

I would only approve of a new EI livery if they covered the fuselage with more shades of green than they do now, I currently dislike EI's white underbelly the rest is classic!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 177):
A RIVAL airline and airport have snapped up an extra Belfast to Leeds Bradford slot after Jet2.com withdrew the route from Belfast International Airport.

Very sad, perhaps Citywing could provide some competition? LS aircraft unfortunately in my opinion were just too big to fill. I hope this is not the start of the end of LS in BFS.
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 1:44 pm

Great event planned for Dublin in September,would love to Emirates fly one of their A380's at this,and some of the fantastic biz jets that grace our skies:

www.flightfest.ie

Oh and its free!!!!!!
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 4:21 pm

Quoting Jambost (Reply 180):
Very sad, perhaps Citywing could provide some competition? LS aircraft unfortunately in my opinion were just too big to fill. I hope this is not the start of the end of LS in BFS.

Fairly huge gap between a TurboLET and a 737 Classic, size-wise.

Its EI Regional I could see coming in here when they have some more craft. Belfast is a fairly obvious base and LBA is fairly obvious as somewhere to possibly try serving from DUB also.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 4:50 pm

Quoting Nibog (Reply 181):
would love to Emirates fly one of their A380's at this,

Id like to see this more than EK and would be more symbolic .  http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/ba3802_zpsfec2184b.jpg
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 5:10 pm

The AAIU has issued its report on the ATR72 landing accident at SNN in July 2011.

Unfortunately, it doesn't make good reading for the flight crew; the crew was criticised for landing too fast. Hope that does not mean an immediate departure from EIR - if they are still there?

http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/fil...ttachments/REPORT%202013-008_0.pdf
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 5:42 pm

Seen EI-EPR parked on a terminal 3 stand this morning, thought it was a bit unusual, would seem it was damaged by an Irbridgenaccording to thelingussource.com

The source also shows quite a few technical problems for EI this week, these things happen but EI-CPG has been tech at BRU, AMS and TFS this week!

[Edited 2013-05-15 10:46:58]
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 6:06 pm

EI-CPG had a very long delay late last night on AGP-DUB, don't think it got back until around 4am but no idea if this was a technical issue or not. EI-CPH is the third oldest aircraft in the fleet at the moment so I wonder how much longer it and the other A321s have left, hopefully an A321neo order is on the cards.

EI-EPR is back in service anyway so maybe it won its scuffle with the air bridge! Is Aer Lingus still awaiting the fourth A319 and and waiting to put the white tail A320 into service? If so maybe once they get in the air the Titan aircraft won't be seen quite as much.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 6:18 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 186):

AGP-DUB delay was because the outbound didn't leave until around 21.00, if it was tech in AGP it would of being cancelled as most likely crew would of being out of hours.

Not sure which A321 but a few weeks ago one of them was out of action for 4 days. 3 flights delayed by over up to 20 hours in one week can't go on and if they keep giving trouble EI will need to get rid.

EI need to announce a SH aircraft order very soon as they will be waiting a long time if they go for the A320NEO or A321NEO and there current fleet will be very old by the time any new aircraft comes. Taking on the VS work load has stretched EI and there own services are suffering because of it. I would of expected better from them.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 6:50 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 187):
AGP-DUB delay was because the outbound didn't leave until around 21.00, if it was tech in AGP it would of being cancelled as most likely crew would of being out of hours.

Makes sense, thanks for clearing that up.

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 187):
EI need to announce a SH aircraft order very soon as they will be waiting a long time if they go for the A320NEO or A321NEO and there current fleet will be very old by the time any new aircraft comes. Taking on the VS work load has stretched EI and there own services are suffering because of it. I would of expected better from them.

I'm sure any order for the NEO would come with interim A32X aircraft, the bulk of the A320 fleet are still in good condition and I don't recall hearing too much about tech problems with them anyway so not sure there's the same urgency. The A321s are well over 10 years old now and if tech problems are becoming more common it's time look at replacements much sooner.

Next month is when the 757 deal is expected to be announced. Be nice to see something at Le Bourget but that's unlikely.

It seems EI were caught off guard with regards to the summer schedule as well, the new A319s which were acting as replacements for the A320s dedicated to VS haven't exactly worked out yet, EI-EPT arrived promptly but EI-EPU is still out there somewhere when it should have been ready for the summer schedule. I guess once EI-EPU and the white tail A320 are in service things should be easier.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 6:51 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 187):

Aren't most of the A320s from the mid 2000s, certainly not old currently, so there is no huge rush to order, I wouldn't say. By the end of the decade they would probably want new air at coming on-line, so no massive rush. I aim fine there will be an order for A32xNEO soon, but probably the a321 version, for transatlantic use. Admittedly the remaining A321s do seem to be getting long in the tooth, but they are coming up to 20 years old now, markedly older than most of the rest of the fleet.

The VS work hasn't stretched the EI fleet that I can see, two A320s were due to be returned, but were kept and two additional a320s joined the fleet. Whatever happens with reliability this summer it's not due to the VS flying.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 6:53 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 187):
Taking on the VS work load has stretched EI and there own services are suffering because of it. I would of expected better from them.


Well as above, the VS workload was planned right. 2+2 A320 to cover it. The white tail allows them a back-up if needed. Reading Jamie's post it seems they were just unlucky this week, can happen to anyone. However perhaps EI need to look at operating less than 99% capacity purely to prevent costly hire-ins.It seems there haev been quite a few Titan hire-ins recently. It can't help their customer service or their cash reserves. Could this be a symptom of the Fleet Planning/Revenue Dept planning max aircraft usage without taking into account the vulnerability of airline schedules to tech snags, incidents, delays, crew hours, weather etc? Seems to me that the EI schedule would have looked really efficient 'on paper'....just a shame that airlines operate in the real world.

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 187):
EI need to announce a SH aircraft order very soon as they will be waiting a long time if they go for the A320NEO or A321NEO

I wouldn't be certain on that......a good third of the orders for A320NEO and A321NEO are from leasing companies.....not actual airlines as of yet. Perhaps the leasers thought to buy up the delivery slots to give them a good bargaining position?

[Edited 2013-05-15 11:58:45]
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 6:55 pm

Mueller has been tarting around the ideas of taking on more SH wetlease work which would put even more pressure on getting an order in. Unless there happens to be delivery slots somewhere within EY's group of part-owned airlines that they can take as was suggested in the past.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 7:05 pm

Don't get me wrong EI have a very young fleet but NEO have around 2,200 aircraft ordered. Now if EI place an order they will be last and you are looking at 2018-2020 delivery and the current fleet won't be as good in 5 or 6 years time.

Quiet a few leasing companies have orders but the number of airlines is higher. Here is the order list from wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Airbus_A320neo_orders

[Edited 2013-05-15 12:07:45]
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 7:18 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 171):
Then they underwent a massive restructuring and launched that old crane livery again - it looks terrible and old fashioned I think.

“This month JAL announced that it will go back to the original red crown crane logo that it had used for more than 40 years, beginning in 1959. In Japanese culture, the crane is viewed as a symbol of long life, prosperity and good health, and red is the color of happiness. That’s why for weddings, anniversaries and other auspicious occasions, the custom is to decorate with a thousand origami cranes to express good wishes.”

Symbolically, the crane makes a hell of a lot of sense culturally and should never have been removed in the first place.

Removal of the crane and going to something else for JAL is the equivalent removing the shamrock from Aer Lingus and replacing it with something stylised and "modern".

Imagine the cries of dispair on this thread if that happened.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 184):

Unfortunately, it doesn't make good reading for the flight crew; the crew was criticised for landing too fast

Were they "encouraged to resign" for their errors as the Emirates crew were (and subsequently) did after the near crash in Melbourne?

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 189):
Aren't most of the A320s from the mid 2000s, certainly not old currently, so there is no huge rush to order, I wouldn't say. By the end of the decade they would probably want new air at coming on-line, so no massive rush.
Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 192):
Don't get me wrong EI have a very young fleet but NEO have around 2,200 aircraft ordered. Now if EI place an order they will be last and you are looking at 2018-2020 delivery and the current fleet won't be as good in 5 or 6 years time.

I was going to reply to BrianDromey but Jamie2k9 basically pointed out what I was going to - so, well done  
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 7:24 pm

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 193):
Removal of the crane and going to something else for JAL is the equivalent removing the shamrock from Aer Lingus and replacing it with something stylised and "modern".

God forbid they ever do that . It would be the biggest mistake ever. Cant believe they would do that . Maybe a updated version but they would need to be VERY careful if they touched the current livery. Unless they had it 100% right it would be playing with fire.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Wed May 15, 2013 7:27 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 192):
Don't get me wrong EI have a very young fleet but NEO have around 2,200 aircraft ordered. Now if EI place an order they will be last and you are looking at 2018-2020 delivery and the current fleet won't be as good in 5 or 6 years time.

That's if the leasing companies don't have earlier slots for Aer Lingus and if that turns out to be the case then interim A320s from Airbus or the lessors will be thrown in as part of the deal. The NEO would be seen as a long term solution to the current fleet, I doubt we're not going to see the likes of EI-CVA being directly replaced by a NEO aircraft, like for like.

I don't see the need to rush the NEO into service with Aer Lingus, technology wise they can easily wait until 2018-2020 as the A320OEO would still be an excellent aircraft.

If the 757 deal is announced next month as expected, I'd expect A321neo's to follow and would probably be the first to arrive.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu May 16, 2013 8:26 am

It also seems that n the 14th Little red cancelled 6 sectors, they only operate 26 a day! I hope it was just an unlucky week for EI, otherwise when the holidays kick in, it's going to be nasty!
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu May 16, 2013 11:53 am

Another nice charter Germania operating DUB-FAO A319s every Sunday at 0650.
 
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu May 16, 2013 1:33 pm

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 185):
Seen EI-EPR parked on a terminal 3 stand this morning, thought it was a bit unusual, would seem it was damaged by an Irbridgenaccording to thelingussource.com

Saw that myself yesterday morning when I arrived, I noticed the EI183 was cancelled on Monday night, was it due to operate that flight?

Quoting OA260 (Reply 197):
Another nice charter Germania operating DUB-FAO A319s every Sunday at 0650.

ST seem to have cut back their mini DUB base this summer then, they flew quite a few weekend charters last summer with 737-700's.
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RE: Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming

Thu May 16, 2013 4:40 pm

Quoting eicvd (Reply 198):
ST seem to have cut back their mini DUB base this summer then, they flew quite a few weekend charters last summer with 737-700's.

They will have the exact same schedules as last summer.

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