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KarelXWB
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New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 2:44 pm

Avianca has a new livery! It has been spotted on a brand new A320 in TLS:


(picture uploaded by Clément Alloing)

The old livery:


(picture uploaded by Globespotter)

So, what do we think about it?  
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 2:53 pm

No doubt, I do prefer the hold one. But lets see how the final version is going to look like.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 2:54 pm

To me it looks like almost every new livery theses days - with one very nice detail though: the way they painted the sharklets.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 2:54 pm

Noooooo! This can't be happening! AV had one of the world's last great looking liveries!

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 2:56 pm

In my view that's a step in the wrong direction.  
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 2:57 pm

I actually liked their old livery alot, sad to see it go. Along with that, their new livery is ugly and boring.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 3:09 pm

Its a steaming pile of crap like every other new livery. Massively bland step backwards. Year after year the sky gets more boring.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 3:12 pm

Looks like they tried to incorporate the TACA brand. Massive fail.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 3:13 pm

Reminds me of Asiana. Maybe somebody got the names confused.  
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 3:40 pm

Although it is a bad copy of AA, I do think it gives a more corporate feeling which is probably what they are aiming for. Would have loved to see the 787 on the old livery, however since it is more than a year from being delivered we will probably have to get used to this...

Is it only me, or are marketing depts doing the exact same thing all over the industry?
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 3:49 pm

Another airline goes from a great livery to a mediocre one.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 3:55 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 3):
Noooooo! This can't be happening! AV had one of the world's last great looking liveries!

- I second that, the new one looks awful!
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 3:59 pm

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 11):
Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 3):
Noooooo! This can't be happening! AV had one of the world's last great looking liveries!

- I second that, the new one looks awful!

Third! I do hope it is unfinished, so many ways to describe how boring and soul destroying it is compared to their old livery.
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 4:08 pm

Quoting Jambost (Reply 12):
Third! I do hope it is unfinished, so many ways to describe how boring and soul destroying it is compared to their old livery.

Unfortunately this was leaked in colombian aviation forums a few weeks ago and the only thing it's missing is the Avianca titles at the front of the fuselage. Everyone was hoping this wouldn't be it but apparently it was. The logo is a cheap copy from AA, pathetic.

Quoting LZ129 (Reply 2):
To me it looks like almost every new livery theses days - with one very nice detail though: the way they painted the sharklets.

Yes, the finish on the sharklets is probably the only stylish thing about this look.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 7):
Looks like they tried to incorporate the TACA brand. Massive fail.

Indeed. TACA's livery was the blandest of all the latin american liveries. It's sad to see that they didn't keep the iconic red, pathetic.

They could have gone with something more creative, like keeping the planes red but instead of the AV condor incorporate the TA parrots. But you know, ad agencies these days scream of mediocrity.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 4:49 pm

No thank you. Repaint the aircraft into its old livery again before it's too late.

What was the point of changing the livery when the old one was better?
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 5:16 pm

I'm so sad to see this beautiful livery go, Avianca will no longer stand out from the crowd at every airport we fly to.
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 5:20 pm

It looks like it adopted most of TACA's livery.


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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 5:55 pm

Not a fan. One can hope for some last "wow factor" element to be added, however it appears that two neat liveries (old Avianca and older TACA) were diluted into one blah, bland scheme.

It's almost like cafeteria food: excellent in concept, depressing in execution!
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 6:12 pm

Hey check it out, looks like every other airline on the planet! Great.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 6:49 pm

It reminds me of Germanwings' new one and also of the aborted Iberia's new livery. It's fresh and modern but I still prefer the old one.

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 6:53 pm

It's going to be interesting to see what the positioning and the styling of the Avianca titles is going to be.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 7:00 pm

the livery wasn't even a decade old, I was glad when they dropped the Suma livery and got the one thats going and now this.

[Edited 2013-05-03 12:20:51]
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 7:11 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
So, what do we think about it?

Please tell me that is not the finished product. The livery looks unfinished and lacking any creativity. In fact it looks like a clone of Taca's horrible livery.   
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 7:14 pm

Absolute rubbish. I take it there is just one guy designing every airline livery these days as they are all the same boring look.

I liked the 80s/90s Avianca livery. It was a very good look. Was upset when they changed it but the new one wasnt all that bad. This however is very bad compared to what they had before.

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 7:15 pm

The new livery should be cheaper to paint. I expect that's one consideration that goes into such decisions these days.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 8:19 pm

Add me to the list of folks that are unimpressed with this mediocre paint scheme. That said, however, it's orders of magnitude better than that awful "Summa" look of a few years back.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 8:24 pm

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 13):
The logo is a cheap copy from AA, pathetic.

Totally agree. If they were inspired only by their first logo which can be found here, they would be showing something unique.
I hope they have chosen a good font (the simplest possible) for the name Avianca.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 8:35 pm

Is this a bad joke? Are you sure this is a new AV livery? If so, very sad and totally unnecessary, as the current one is one of the best around.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 8:49 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 24):
The new livery should be cheaper to paint. I expect that's one consideration that goes into such decisions these days.

  

I am not sure why people are surprised that all these airlines are going for much more "simpler/ boring" liveries.. These colorful liveries especially AV don't really look very nice when they fly around with a faded red top and a filthy underbelly.. I like the new colors, and I hope they manage to keep it a bit more cleaner than their previous livery..

One thing I am a bit curious about is if they will introduce a new interior with this new livery? Their current seat fabric design has been around for awhile..
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 8:54 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
So, what do we think about it?

Just one word....BUUUUURRRRRNNNNN!!!!

Quoting na (Reply 27):
as the current one is one of the best around.

Totally agree. Specially the tail with the flag colors being mixed. I really loved the current AV livery. If someone had to change their paint in the AV-TA mix, that should be TA. Their livery is rather boring and not appealing. Why just don't do what they did with AV-Brazil? Just change the colors of the tail with their respective country's flag color.

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 8:55 pm

Quoting mfc (Reply 19):
It's fresh and modern

I agree, if by "fresh" you mean "drab" and by "modern" you mean "awful."
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 10:28 pm

As Falkerker said, I too believe it is in the interests of corporates. Though the old livery was original for us, the new one could be more appealing for customers who are after 'modern' liveries which give the company a sense of development....
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 10:31 pm

Aw man, another great livery gives way to a boring scheme. From what I can see in the pics posted it reminds me of what was supposed to be IB's new colorscheme.
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 10:36 pm

I think they needed to change the liveries, it was reflecting Colombian flag colors while Avianca has turned into a south american airline.

Quoting cybergus (Reply 29):
Why just don't do what they did with AV-Brazil? Just change the colors of the tail with their respective country's flag color.

The colors of AV-Brazil are the same from Avianca Colombia. They used to be green and yellow I think, but that was when it was still called OceanAir. After the rebranding to Avianca, the colors reflect those from Colombia flag colors, and anyone that pays a little more attention to the plane will notice this.
The new livery is not perfect but the old one needed to be changed. Nice move by AV.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 10:53 pm

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 28):
One thing I am a bit curious about is if they will introduce a new interior with this new livery? Their current seat fabric design has been around for awhile..

The newest frames are coming with leather Y seats (I've seen them on A318 and A320, not sure on A330). I think they should upgrade their soft product somewhat as usually the catering has much to be desired... Service is usually good, though (if you speak spanish)
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 10:55 pm

Sharklets looking nice  
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 10:59 pm

pure catastrophe Avianca ... but red pigment is very expensive so ...
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 11:11 pm

Looks like Virgin America - BLAH.... ZZZZZZZZZ....Phooey!!!

I wish Avianca would bring back their 80s livery
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 11:20 pm

I think it would look nicer if it only had more colours, but I wasn't too fond of the old one, so the new one is definitely a step in the right direction. Less white, and it would be perfect to me.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 03, 2013 11:42 pm

Horrible !!!! Sad day for Avianca.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 12:30 am

IMO I think it looks good. Tail is what stands out most to me.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 12:50 am

this livery will go down as one of the worst ever, only the match DL two transitional livieries and AA's new livery.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 3:10 am

great !!!! just another white airline in the world ! Av really screw this one up , and the bird its exactly the same one as AA . SAD VERY SAD NEWS
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 5:07 am

Why?!      
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 5:13 am

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 13):
Indeed. TACA's livery was the blandest of all the latin american liveries. It's sad to see that they didn't keep the iconic red, pathetic.

They could have gone with something more creative, like keeping the planes red but instead of the AV condor incorporate the TA parrots. But you know, ad agencies these days scream of mediocrity.

That sounds incredibly funny, but you are right. It´s what would have made the most sense. Not this bland, identityless, neutral, PC, corporate "we are all monochromatic" color thingie they came up with. I see this plane and I have no idea what country it belongs to.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 5:17 am

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 6):
Massively bland step backwards.

  

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 6):
Year after year the sky gets more boring.

  

Quoting AR385 (Reply 7):
Massive fail.

  

Quoting N766UA (Reply 18):

Hey check it out, looks like every other airline on the planet! Great.

  
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 6:09 am

The old one is 100 times better!!! Another beautiful livery will disappear........ SAD! 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 6:36 am

This isn't a huge change and not a bad one either. It saves money and somewhat refreshes the image. Let's face it, as much as some hate the "Eurowhite" look, most of the livery is the tail since that's the best canvas for branding and isn't nearly as often obscured by other aircraft, jetways, ground equipment, etc. so that's where the investment in a livery is best used while practicality can weigh more heavily on the fuselage.
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 6:56 am

Everybody gasped when AC introduced their current livery. But, like it or hate it, you can always identify an AC aircraft especially when its outside Canada against a sea of Eurowhite. Same thing goes with current AV scheme...Orange top fuselage? ...yup, it's AV.

While the new tail colours may hold some promise (hoping something additional goes over the various layers of orange), the overall look is no longer unique. Too bad for AV.
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 7:38 am

What on Earth are they thinking of? Replacing one of the smartest liveries out there with something bland like this just doesn't make sense. It's not as if the current one needed changing: how old is it, five,six years old?

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