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MATURRO727
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 8:05 am

very sad indeed....

Quoting rj777 (Reply 20):
It's going to be interesting to see what the positioning and the styling of the Avianca titles is going to be.

this is how it will look like when finished:





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[Edited 2013-05-04 01:05:37]

[Edited 2013-05-04 01:20:42]
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 8:09 am

Quoting rj777 (Reply 20):
going to be interesting to see what the positioning and the styling of the Avianca titles is going to be.

Maybe that will give it a bit more flavor! (Other than Vanilla)

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 9:03 am

Around 2000 AV already had a miserable livery called "Summa" which fortunately disappeared quickly. I hope that this austerity scheme will suffer the same fate.
Its so sad, all niceties in aviation slowly disappear these days, diversity, trijets, quads, nice liveries. If this goes on 10 years more I might well have to chance my hobby...
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 11:49 am

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo they had such a great livery, really made their A330s stand out in BCN....it actually kinda looks like that awful new IB livery...oh Dios!!!
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 1:17 pm

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 51):
Maybe that will give it a bit more flavor! (Other than Vanilla)

Yep it did..it went from anilla to Vanilla Bean...good lrd what an ugly (or a better term would be lack of) livery...srely the brand designers couldve come up with something far better than a red version of jetBlue....
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 2:18 pm

Quoting MATURRO727 (Reply 50):

I am a huge fan of their current livery, but I don't think this redesigned version would be SO awful if not for the huge solid red space on the tail. It just makes the entire plane look awkward, like someone forgot to place a graphic there. If they integrated more of the current color into a mosaic-type pattern on the tail, it would be much improved.

Seriously, who comes up with these ideas?
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 2:29 pm

This looks perfectly UGLY .... who the hell could come up with something that aweful ?
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 2:31 pm

Quoting MATURRO727 (Reply 50):
this is how it will look like when finished:

The new Tail is ridiculous, Looks like a bunch of miss matched red stuck in the wrong place.. I just really dont understand the logic behind airlines choices. They are all awful, The only one that took a bigger step backward then Avianca is TAME.. Theirs went from unique to abysmal.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 2:58 pm

Quoting Jambost (Reply 12):
I do hope it is unfinished

Funny -- that's what I was thinking.

Perhaps the design agency is gauging it's work by it's A.net reception.  
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 3:03 pm

Is Avianca a subcontractor of GERMANWINGS or did they hire the same designer? Looks nice, but somehow not genuine...
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 3:13 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 58):
Quoting Jambost (Reply 12):I do hope it is unfinished

Funny -- that's what I was thinking.
Quoting MATURRO727 (Reply 50):
this is how it will look like when finished:


Oh. Well that's better.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 3:51 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 60):
Oh. Well that's better.

Agree   But a first thought is that the "bird" before the name is "copy/paste & modified" from the new AA livery!!
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 4:53 pm

Quoting boeingguy26 (Reply 40):

Okay, nevermind. I thought the old livery was the new livery (misread the descriptions). Not a very good change lol
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 5:02 pm

Wow! How sad!
Who designed it? Any branding agency claiming credit?

Also, if the intent is to get big, more widebodies, fight LATAM (even with long hauls from Brazil) this looks so ordinary. The old one was vibrant and distinctive. What kind of CMO decides "let's make our airline look more like the others, undifferenciated, as we plan to fight a behemoth" ???
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 6:45 pm

Quoting TK773 (Reply 31):

So now costumers care about liveries? after all the arguments on here that they couldn't care less.

Eurowhite liveries only work in two situations to me.

1) if the livery its replacing was outdated like Philippine Airlinees or senseless for the times Garuda in the 1980s

2) if it replaces a really tasteless bold, colourful livery cant find any example as such but lets say Air Pacific 1980s look compared to the much nicer Eurowhite they reworked in 2003, the interim one was boring.

Avianca does not fall in either of the two categories.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 8:13 pm

Another picture:

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 9:39 pm

It now looks like they wanted to look like TAM...and who the hell would want that! Avianca really stood out at SDU and CGH. Now just the odd Azul and VARIG planes will.

[Edited 2013-05-04 14:44:05]
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 10:16 pm

Am I the only one who's sick of these abstract, ribbony looking tails? It just looks so incomplete, like someone just took a paint roller to it and said "eh, whatever."
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 10:35 pm

Quoting rikkus67 (Reply 48):
Everybody gasped when AC introduced their current livery. But, like it or hate it, you can always identify an AC aircraft especially when its outside Canada against a sea of Eurowhite.

Ironically, the new AV livery looks quite a bit like the new AC rouge LCC design.

 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sat May 04, 2013 10:47 pm

Quoting N766UA (Reply 67):
Am I the only one who's sick of these abstract, ribbony looking tails? It just looks so incomplete, like someone just took a paint roller to it and said "eh, whatever."

I hate them also, Because they make no sense.. They keep getting rid of logos and icons for wavy random lines that mean nothing. Even the colours have no relevance, its horrible.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 05, 2013 12:41 am

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 58):
Quoting Jambost (Reply 12):
I do hope it is unfinished

Funny -- that's what I was thinking.

Perhaps the design agency is gauging it's work by it's A.net reception.  

I hope your right, do the right thing Avianca do not change a bit! Stay classy looking like IB , EI etc
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 05, 2013 2:45 am

http://www.vanguardia.com/actualidad...anca-estrena-imagen-de-multilatina

So the official launch will be 28 May. I wonder if that will be the date TACA gets rebranded as well.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 05, 2013 4:40 am

For all practical purposes, I am going to jump to AV's defense and vote in favor of this livery not so much for aesthetic reasons but for economic reasons. Less paint on it for now will lighten the weight, lessen the fuel prices, and hopefully lower the fares. However, I think that is a smart move economically as they need to absorb the costs of integration. Once it becomes more established, then maybe then modify the livery later?
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 05, 2013 6:26 am

Quoting AA767LOVER (Reply 72):
hopefully lower the fares.

Not in a million years.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 05, 2013 4:07 pm

Why would they copy AA's latest logo??? I bet AV/TA will have to modify it; it'll create too much confusion and both airlines belong to Star not oneworld. Way too similar to "new AA's" eagle!  Wow!
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Mon May 06, 2013 4:57 am

Eh... I'm not too convinced by this new livery, even though it resembles the current TA livery (and I do have a soft spot for that one, emotional attachment and all). The current AV livery looks better IMO.

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 71):
So the official launch will be 28 May. I wonder if that will be the date TACA gets rebranded as well.

Correct, it's the same date.
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Mon May 06, 2013 6:18 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 68):
Ironically, the new AV livery looks quite a bit like the new AC rouge LCC design.

Let's hope AC Rouge scheme & AV new scheme are BOTH stort-lived!
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Mon May 06, 2013 2:43 pm

I like the tail, the winglets and the engine cowlings. It is a pity that the rest of the fuselage is now all-white. Hopefully it will look better once the "Avianca" letters are applied.
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Mon May 06, 2013 9:37 pm

This livery makes me sad... I will miss the red so much   and this is such a poor design.

On the other hand, at least we end up keeping the name of the airline as Avianca, so oh well... what can you do...  
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Mon May 06, 2013 11:03 pm

Fist thing that came to mind was an ambulance... just put the strobe lights and siren on top and there you go.
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Tue May 07, 2013 6:54 am

As much as I think Avianca is a mediocre airline, I loved their iconic livery.

This just looks horrible. Sad rebranding effort.

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Tue May 07, 2013 3:38 pm

I hate it, i love the Actual livery but this "new" seems more ha American and Taca merged.

Sad, sad move.


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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Tue May 07, 2013 5:02 pm

I also have to get used to this new livery (their current livery is much better) but I think over time I will get used to it just as I now find the new AA livery to be very nice. Maybe that's because I like new things (cars, houses, aircraft and airline liveries) 

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Tue May 07, 2013 5:03 pm

I also have to get used to this new livery (their current livery is much better) but I think over time I will get used to it just as I now find the new AA livery to be very nice. Maybe that's because I like new things (cars, houses, aircraft and airline liveries) 

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Thu May 09, 2013 11:23 pm

Quoting tavong (Reply 81):
I hate it, i love the Actual livery but this "new" seems more ha American and Taca merged.

   Agreed. The old AA livery desperately needed a refresh, but the AV color scheme was fine as it is.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Thu May 09, 2013 11:38 pm

I'd rather they brought back this beauty:

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 10, 2013 1:07 am

Quoting trent772 (Reply 73):

haha ofcourse  

with the livery, i prefer the new one, looks better  
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 10, 2013 3:19 am

Quoting AR385 (Reply 7):
Looks like they tried to incorporate the TACA brand

It indeed makes a resemblance with the current livery of TACA.
The TACA brand will definitely disappear and their customers will experience a gradual process involving the unification into AV: frequent flyer program, commonality in flight designators, new image of the airline and other factors which cannot be clearly understood for the average of their customers.

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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 10, 2013 3:35 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 87):
frequent flyer program

AV and TA already share the same frequent flyer programme.
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Fri May 10, 2013 5:46 am

Something I'm wondering is how are they gonna manage the flags; will all aircraft be painted with the Colombian flag, or will some keep the other flags?
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 19, 2013 11:21 am

I have been reviewing the pix of the new livery again and again. This livery must be a joke. It is primitive. It is ugly. It completely removes Avianca's 'red', which is recognized everywhere. Stupid decision.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 19, 2013 11:27 am

Quoting aer (Reply 89):

I don't understand why they got two flags on the aircraft one near cockpit is sufficient, the tail one is interfering with the design and needs to go.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 19, 2013 11:41 am

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 6):
Its a steaming pile of crap like every other new livery. Massively bland step backwards. Year after year the sky gets more boring.

Agree 100%. It is amazing how much creativity is lacking from '' new '' aircraft liveries nowadays. Boring personified !! Everyday the sky is getting more and more boring indeed. I thought the " new " AA was awful...this is even worst IMO. Such a shame. ( Big Yawn )
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 19, 2013 2:28 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 91):
I don't understand why they got two flags on the aircraft one near cockpit is sufficient, the tail one is interfering with the design and needs to go.


Colombian legislation requires it.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 19, 2013 3:04 pm

What I don't get is the reason for this livery change. They only relatively recently introduce the current one.

Was there recently any sort of change within Avianca? A management change? Or perhaps a merger of some sort?
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 19, 2013 4:36 pm

Quoting garpd (Reply 94):
Was there recently any sort of change within Avianca? A management change? Or perhaps a merger of some sort?

Avianca has merged with TACA and is dropping the TACA brand. No doubt that is why this new livery looks to be partially inspired by the current TACA livery.
 
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RE: New Livery For Avianca

Sun May 19, 2013 4:46 pm

Ah, that would make sense. The merger had escaped my attention.
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