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A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 12:21 pm

http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/200...-quiet-for-emirates-pilots-to.html

EK pilots think crew rest area get too much of disturbance (cabin noise wise) as A380 is very quiet ! What you guys think about it?
 
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 12:28 pm

I could believe that. If the crew rests are toward the middle of the plane they probably don't get much engine noise.
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 12:33 pm

They must have transferred from the 777   
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 12:33 pm

A380 is such a huge craft, they could built crew rest area little away isolating actual cabin? or may be near first class? as main source of cabin noise is crying kids according to many people and crew member during the services. How about building it downstairs just like some of LH A340 have downstairs toilet facility, that would give them complete peace isn't it ?
 
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 12:38 pm

This news dates from 2008 and I believe this issue has been addressed.
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 12:40 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):

Oooppssss

Sorry didn't notice that. I think it might have been addressed, especially afterall EK have mentioned this  
 
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 12:57 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):
This news dates from 2008 and I believe this issue has been addressed.

Yea... Its called a mp3 player with Bose headphones. Its trivial to add noise but tough to remove it and noise has been proven to agitate people and disturb sleep. Oh, EK might have done more, but the idea of 'too quiet' a plane makes me   

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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 12:57 pm

Well, I assumed there'd be some kind of insulation or something to block out extra noise and keep some warmth in the rest area? Surely it'd be optimised for sleeping.
There is however, merit to the idea of "Too quiet".
So, I there might be some merit to their claim.
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 1:03 pm

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 7):
Well, I assumed there'd be some kind of insulation or something to block out extra noise and keep some warmth in the rest area?

A cheaper solution is to pump in white noise to drown out the crying kids.

We have an electric air purifier in our bed room. It's amazing how it is easier to sleep with constant hum of the purifier's fan than the sporadic chirping of birds or croaking of frogs out side the windows.

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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 3:09 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):
This news dates from 2008 and I believe this issue has been addressed.

Extra noise-insulation was installed to keep the sleeping cabins better isolated from normal cabin noise. If I recall correctly the pilots are used to the background noise of the engines. Since that is hardly noticeable in the A380 other, incidental noises made by passengers became much more irritating to the crews which were trying to get some sleep. The extra insulation materials have taken care of this 'problem'.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 6):
Oh, EK might have done more, but the idea of 'too quiet' a plane makes me   

They have done more. And here is a nice example of progress creating new problems.  .
 
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Tue May 14, 2013 3:33 pm

Quoting TheAviator380 (Thread starter):
EK pilots think crew rest area get too much of disturbance (cabin noise wise) as A380 is very quiet ! What you guys think about it?

As in proposed when this came up first:
As an extra Airbus can add a sound generator: providing engine noise to pilots choice.

" Dear pilot, please
1) switch on the sound system first:
2) Please select supplier of airframe (button 1) - Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, Embrair).
3) Plaese select the aircraft type of your choice (button 2): 777, 767, 737, 747, 340, 330, 320, 190, ........ )
4) Please select the engine manufacturer (Button3) , RR, P&W, GE,

5) please enjoy your sleep.

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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Wed May 15, 2013 9:45 am

Interesting how people jump on this topic as "yeah I could very well believe that" as long as it is a A380...

My experience from my flights in 380s on different airlines and in different classes: I have never slept better on a plane.

Though to see how pilots in crew rest areas could feel differently.
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Wed May 15, 2013 10:17 am

Quoting cv990coronado (Reply 2):
They must have transferred from the 777

Or any other non-A380 a/c.

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 9):
If I recall correctly the pilots are used to the background noise of the engines.

Once the number of A380's in the fleet increases this will become a non-issue as more and more pilots will be "accustomed or used" to the lower noise level of the a/c.
No different from pax who travel a lot, they are leading the charge that more A380's should be deployed by more airlines to give them a consistent level of noise when travelling.
 
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Wed May 15, 2013 10:37 am

I wondered about new, quieter aircraft, when I was flying on the 777 the other day. No matter what class you fly noise can be an issue trying to sleep (ear plugs help); I'd rather have a noiser aircraft and not have to hear everyone around me, but then again I'm a light sleeper.
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RE: A380 Too Quiet For EK Pilots To Sleep?

Wed May 15, 2013 11:52 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 6):
Yea... Its called a mp3 player with Bose headphones.

Difficult to sleep on your side or to roll over with headphones on. Easiest solution might have been to install small portable fans or other similar white noise generators. The whirring sound and circulation of air does the trick for me in "too quiet" hotel rooms.

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