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Quoting bendewire (Reply 2): Easyjet have announced it will use slots to expand services but did not mention if it will serve Belfast, probably due to high regionsl APD charges |
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 4): guess we'll see IOM/BHD/JER/GCI/NQY dropped. |
Quoting kaitak (Reply 7): IOM might have a chance, because U2 already serves it from LPL. |
Quoting kaitak (Reply 7): The big problem for JER is that U2 tends not to nightstop, which means that there will be no overnight flight. |
Quoting kaitak (Reply 7): That's a very important thing from a Jersey perspective |
Quoting bendewire (Reply 10): So sad for Flybe, ultra modern fleet and have tried so hard, but thanks to UK government who seem hell bent on destroying aviation in the UK and 1,000's of jobs that go with it. |
Quoting anstar (Reply 12): Quoting by738 (Reply 11): Interesting that BA (who owns a stake in Flybe) would be willing to sell to an arch LGW competitor. Goes to highest bidder I suppose. Why would a minority shareholder (ie about 15% I believe) have a say in how the company is run? |
Quoting bennett123 (Reply 15): I am more concerned about the possible reduction in choice at Newquay. |
Quoting anstar (Reply 18): |
Quoting kaitak (Reply 7): The big problem for JER is that U2 tends not to nightstop, which means that there will be no overnight flight. That's a very important thing from a Jersey perspective. However, whatever happens, I hope that U2 jacks up capacity sharply; BE downgraded the JER service to 175s (from 195s) and the overall capacity drop has had an effect on fares. |
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 22): BA do have an interest in LGW as can clearly be seen by the rather large based fleet |
Quoting [email protected] (Reply 23): Yep. And that applied: BA has 131,493 seats at LGW in the w/c 20th May, so second place and representing 16.9% of all seats at LGW behind EZY with 44.7% (BE is sixth with 30,116) and 813 weekly frequencies (to/from) and is second with 17.8% behind EZY with 46% (BE is third with 7.5%). |
Quoting bendewire (Reply 10): So sad for Flybe, ultra modern fleet and have tried so hard, |
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 25): Within that you can see why Gatwick are so keen to eliminate smaller types. Third most frequencies but sixth for passenger numbers - quite a disparity. |
Quoting Candid76 (Reply 3): Travel into Central London is easier from Gatwick but there isn't all that much in it, and from STN you are straight into the City. |
Quoting by738 (Reply 11): Interesting that BA (who owns a stake in Flybe) would be willing to sell to an arch LGW competitor. Goes to highest bidder I suppose. |
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 4): Aurigny will pick up the slack on GCI. |
Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 24): While Luton isn't the best connected of the airports with the capital |
Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 24): I think it is with a daily IOM service and during the summer months a 4-5x weekly service to Jersey. |
Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 24): I wonder is any of these ops will be transferred to Luton, this is the only other London airport they fly to... |
Quoting cornishsimon (Reply 29): but my main concern here is for NQY |
Quoting cornishsimon (Reply 29): The airport has gone on record today as being in discussions with two airlines about taking over NQY-LON services, I can see one of them being U2, but who else ? IAG in some form ? |
Quoting cornishsimon (Reply 29): The airport has gone on record today as being in discussions with two airlines about taking over NQY-LON services, I can see one of them being U2, but who else ? IAG in some form ? |
Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 30): Maybe a twice daily to AMS with KLM would do the trick. |
Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 30): Cityjet, Aer Arran or Eastern possibly. |
Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 30): Then again, who would have seen Minoan at OXF or Darwin at CBG, so could be out of left field. |
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 31): Ryanair and easyJet. |
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 31): Ryanair |
Quoting cornishsimon (Reply 32): I knew of U2 as local radio were reporting that discussions were underway, however is Ryanair your opinion or fact ? |
Quoting Boysteve (Reply 28): People and also certain airlines are hellbent on LHR for prestige |
Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 24): I wonder is any of these ops will be transferred to Luton, this is the only other London airport they fly to... |
Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 37): It seems odd that an English based airline won't have a real presence in London. |
Quoting [email protected] (Reply 33): including on an ex-CO 733. Seems an awful long time ago now. |
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 36): Quoting Boysteve (Reply 28):People and also certain airlines are hellbent on LHR for prestige It's not prestige, that's naive, it's profit. Such multi million pound decisions by majr airlines need a business case and a sound logical raison d'etre. (exceptions being those with the magical route planning dartboard....) |
Quoting Boysteve (Reply 40): I was talking about Pax, not airlines! Folk tend to think that LGW is second choice even though onward public transport is far more widespread (and cheaper mile for mile) by rail. |
Quoting Boysteve (Reply 40): I was talking about Pax, not airlines! Folk tend to think that LGW is second choice even though onward public transport is far more widespread (and cheaper mile for mile) by rail. |
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 41): People are often set in their ways, and immediately think Heathrow. |
Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 37): It seems odd that an English based airline won't have a real presence in London. |
Quoting rutankrd (Reply 43): More vested interests in the travel industry and corporate travel policies actually. |
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 44): Why fly from LGW if you can make more money at LHR? I mean let's cut the blah about cheap rail connections, bottom line is bottom line and it's not a huge mystery. Spend anytime at LHR and LGW and one can actually see the very different demographics at play gien the legacy empire route structure which made LHR a world hub.LGW just cannot compete with that. GIP have spent so much money at Gatters and still lost Delta, US Airways and Korean Air in the last 18 months. LGW is brilliant as a big old Orange fortress but it's never going to be much beyond that in a free market. Even BA LGW are a mere fraction of the size they were when I moved to London in 2005. It's primarily an airport for taking English locals on holiday and bringing in European tourists to London, business routes to UK destinations are on the way out alas. |
Quoting kaitak (Reply 46): I'm not quite sure if/how they are going to get E-195s into GCI (it can only just take 175s); perhaps they can be retrofitted with the same mods that allow Trip/Azul E-195s to operate into Rio's SDU. |
Quoting vfw614 (Reply 47): Whether the E195 can do the job is a good question. It has a 1460m TORA with a range of 500nm and slight load penalty, so for LGW it should be okay. |
Quoting vfw614 (Reply 47): No sure about the PCN, however, but as Lufthansa operated Boeing 737-500 a while ago, it should be within the limits. |
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 48): Quoting vfw614 (Reply 47): No sure about the PCN, however, but as Lufthansa operated Boeing 737-500 a while ago, it should be within the limits. GCI's PCN is 22 F/B/Y/T. Even with a light E95 you are really going to be pushing the envelope there and shortening the runway's usable life for sure. |