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incitatus
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:46 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 49):
Air Europa still flies the MAD-SSA sector thrice a week with 332.
In my understanding, this route is sustained purely on the O&D market, where the dimension of the market doesn't allow more weekly flights for the time being.

Also Air Europa A330s have 299 seats while TAM's have 223. Air Europa's product, distribution and cost structure have been designed to cater mainly to the leisure market.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:10 am

Starting on August 23, TAM will deploy the 77W on the GRU-MAO route 3x weekly replacing A332 service on those days.
JJ3748 GRU-MAO 2-3-5 77W
JJ3747 MAO-GRU 2-3-5 77W

Source: amadeus.net
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:12 pm

TAM's 10th 77W (PT-MUJ) at KPAE:
http://paineairport.com/kpae6495.htm

Yesterday TAM received another new B-767-316ER (PT-MSW) from LAN.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:54 pm

Alitalia em Gol signed today a codesharing agreement. No further details were given.

http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/eco...cham-acordo-para-compartilhar-voos
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:56 pm

AA switched its pattern to serve NE Brazil. From November 2013 on MIA-REC goes to 6 x week. MIA-SSA goes to 4 x week.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:13 pm

Starting on 21SEP13, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-GRU route to 14x weekly.

Source: amadeus.net
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:28 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 55):
Starting on 21SEP13, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-GRU route to 14x weekly.

For the 4th time, have to say. Of course they always also reduce it. JJ service was downgauged to A320 from A332.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:42 am

Do we have any news when AA MIA-POA will be bookable?
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:46 am

Quoting tonytifao (Reply 57):
Do we have any news when AA MIA-POA will be bookable?

Whoa! AA received the frequencies just 2 weeks ago.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:41 am

Quoting tonytifao (Reply 57):
Do we have any news when AA MIA-POA will be bookable?

The flights got the final OK from ANAC today but i suspect AA wants to disclose also GRU-LAX and the new redeye GRU-JFK (that replaces the daylight) all together

As an off topic, DFW-SCL goes 772 on iata winter.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:21 am

On 23AUG, TAM's subsidiary Pantanal Linhas Aéreas will cease all operations with TAM absorbing Pantanal's operations: http://www.tam.com.br/b2c/vgn/v/inde...b9ffd70410VgnVCM1000009508020aRCRD

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 59):
Quoting tonytifao (Reply 57):
Do we have any news when AA MIA-POA will be bookable?

The flights got the final OK from ANAC today but i suspect AA wants to disclose also GRU-LAX and the new redeye GRU-JFK (that replaces the daylight) all together

The MIA-CWB-POA-MIA route will launch on 21NOV. The GRU-LAX route will launch on 16DEC.
American Airlines Launches Codeshare Agreement With TAM Airlines
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:45 am

On 03SEP, TAM will launch non-stop flights between GRU and Joinville:

JJ3790 GRU 08:15 JOI 09:20 A-319 1-3-5
JJ3791 JOI 10:05 GRU 11:05 A-319 1-3-5

JJ3793 GRU 16:10 JOI 17:00 A-319 2-4-6
JJ3792 JOI 17:30 GRU 19:00 A-319 2-4-6

Source: amadeus.net

TAM's 10TH 77W At KPAE PT-MUJ:


Photo by royalscottking http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/9500746002/
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:03 am

Quoting tonytifao (Reply 57):
Do we have any news when AA MIA-POA will be bookable?

According to the press release about the AA/JJ Code-Share Agreement announced 8/15/2013 AA indicated that the MIA-POA and LAX-GRU flights will be loaded over this week-end and available for sale on 18Aug13.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:35 am

AA will place its code on TAM operated flights between Brasil and the U.S. including:
GRU-JFK 11x weekly 77W
GRU-MIA 2x daily 77W
GRU-MCO 2x daily A332
GIG-JFK daily B763
GIG-MIA daily B763
BSB-MIA 4x weekly B763
CNF-MIA 3x weekly B763
MAO-MIA daily B763

TAM will place its code on AA operated flights between the U.S. and Brasil including:
DFW-GRU
DFW-GIG
JFK-GRU
JFK-GIG
MIA-BSB
MIA-CNF
MIA-MAO
MIA-REC
MIA-SSA
*MIA-CWB-POA-MIA
*LAX-GRU

*Not loaded in the GDS as yet

Quoting b377 (Reply 62):
According to the press release about the AA/JJ Code-Share Agreement

With the implementation of the bilateral codeshare agreement between AA and TAM, oneworld will dominate traffic between Brasil and the U.S. TAM will terminate its codeshare agreement with UA soon as TAM prepares to join oneworld next year.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:58 pm

TAM will run extra GRU-MIA-GRU flights in Jan/2014. Not as much as this past January.

JJ9388 GRU 1725 MIA 2245 A332
JJ9381 MIA 0415 GRU 1530 A332
Both runs on January 06, 09, 13, 16, 20, 23, 30 and 31.

LA applied to Brazilian ANAC to reduce LIM-GRU to 10x weekly effective Oct 27

G3 will not operate select GRU-VVI / EZE and CWB-EZE services during September.

JJ will drop GIG-MVD in favor of concentrate all MVD traffic thru GRU.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:13 am

AA MIA-CWB-POA is now bookable on AA.com
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:11 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 64):
TAM will run extra GRU-MIA-GRU flights in Jan/2014. Not as much as this past January.

Also TAM is sticking the 773s in all GRU-MCO flights over the month of January 2014.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:31 am

I know this has been discussed thoroughly, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to know. Considering the new ex-LA birds that are joining JJ's widebody fleet, have any statements regarding the retirement of the three ex-AZ birds?
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:32 am

Azul plans to start POA-RIA. For those who don't know, RIA is located where that massive nightclub disaster happened this year. It's about 4 hours bus ride from POA. This will be a great addition to Azul network. Huge universities and business in Santa Maria.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:56 pm

Two stories out in the last week.

Large loss by LATAM. Significantly worse than analyst were expected. I know the company blamed much of it on weakening of the Brazilian Real, but there are other forces at play including slowing passenger demand and oversupply in capacity, especially in TAM's home market.

Also I saw Azul scraped plans for its IPO, citing adverse market conditions. I saw an interview with David Neeleman who said in a matter of months (since May) the entire picture for an IPO changed. For now he says the airline will sit things out and see how things develop.

Is the macroeconomic picture in counties like Brazil going to pop airline industry balloon in South America ?
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:05 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 69):

Two stories out in the last week.

Large loss by LATAM. Significantly worse than analyst were expected. I know the company blamed much of it on weakening of the Brazilian Real, but there are other forces at play including slowing passenger demand and oversupply in capacity, especially in TAM's home market.

Also I saw Azul scraped plans for its IPO, citing adverse market conditions. I saw an interview with David Neeleman who said in a matter of months (since May) the entire picture for an IPO changed. For now he says the airline will sit things out and see how things develop.

Is the macroeconomic picture in counties like Brazil going to pop airline industry balloon in South America ?

I knew and always said, due to Brazilian culture and corruption mentality, the country has lost it's opportunity to grow to it's potential. The currency losing ground, excessive supply and shorter demand, expect international traffic to stagnate or drop.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:48 am

The brazilian way has been a "let's spend the least we can and steal as much as possible" for too long. Someone is going to pay the bill eventually. And quite frankly, I can only see things getting worse in the next 10-15 years, if this mentality is not changed. And not just in aviation, but in every sector.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:35 pm

Quoting incitatus (Reply 66):
Also TAM is sticking the 773s in all GRU-MCO flights over the month of January 2014.

Yes but they will come from CDG route. As MCO runs 2x daily with the same aircraft, probably compensates the fact Jan 2013 JJ operated 3x daily A332.
Why they never tried that before (moving from FRA and LHR) while the demand for the United States was very strong and the USD/BRL rate created a huge demand... I never understood !

Quoting Reffado (Reply 67):
I know this has been discussed thoroughly, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to know. Considering the new ex-LA birds that are joining JJ's widebody fleet, have any statements regarding the retirement of the three ex-AZ birds?

Already parked. They are using the A332 to compensate, now that they cut some Rio routes.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 69):
Large loss by LATAM. Significantly worse than analyst were expected. I know the company blamed much of it on weakening of the Brazilian Real, but there are other forces at play including slowing passenger demand and oversupply in capacity, especially in TAM's home market.

Hi LAXIntl ! It's more than that ... Brazil never take care of its Current Account and recently, did the same with Supply & Demand curves. The oversupply in air markets come from the fact that both major domestic airlines (Tam and Gol) decided to use larger equipment fleet wise instead of customizing the fleet to the demand.
This produced the need to fly routes with 50-60 passengers on A320's or B738's because there's no demand on other times and they need the plane in another city.
So many reasons now that is hard to think what to do first, but one of the first things.... to create a domestic market for aircraft leasing/financing.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:23 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 72):
Already parked. They are using the A332 to compensate, now that they cut some Rio routes.

Really? Great! My booked flight for October still shows the old seat map, guess system hasn't been updated yet. But I'm glad they're parked already. Thanks for the update!
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:16 am

Sad to see the Brazil meltdown.

As others mentioned suppose its only time that international services to Brazil will start feeling the pain, especially ones from the US due to their dependence of Brazil origin traffic and the fact that supply in market seats has kept growing.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:59 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 74):
Sad to see the Brazil meltdown.

As others mentioned suppose its only time that international services to Brazil will start feeling the pain, especially ones from the US due to their dependence of Brazil origin traffic and the fact that supply in market seats has kept growing.

LAXintl, not sure if you ever go down there, but things are getting worse and worse in my opinion. Corruption is still out of control, crime is higher, even the types of crime is worse, they no longer just rob you, they kill you. Everything is outrageously expensive, the infrastructure is horrible.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:34 am

Quoting tonytifao (Reply 75):
LAXintl, not sure if you ever go down there, but things are getting worse and worse in my opinion. Corruption is still out of control, crime is higher, even the types of crime is worse, they no longer just rob you, they kill you. Everything is outrageously expensive, the infrastructure is horrible.

While brazilian economy is certainly worth looking at and worrying, this is an aviation forum and I thing it is not the right place to discuss this matter. Let's take care of this thread before it is locked by moderators.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:47 pm

Quoting rg787 (Reply 76):
While brazilian economy is certainly worth looking at and worrying, this is an aviation forum and I thing it is not the right place to discuss this matter. Let's take care of this thread before it is locked by moderators.

Sorry, but the state of the aviation in Brazil is closely related to it's economics. Almost every subject is related to an airline flying to some destination and that destination relates to it's economics. Airline X is flying to destination B because of Y.
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:16 pm

I flew from GRU to RAO this week and I saw five AA 777´s parked waiting for the evening departures. It´s a 1.300 passenger capacity on a daily basis! Almost 40.000 over a month, of just one airline! Very impressive!

Another fact that kept my attention was TAM´s on board magazine, regarding its domestic routes. To me was a surprise that TAM only flies to four destinations in Sao Paulo state. GRU/CGH, VCP, RAO and to SJP. And we are talking about the richest state of our country... Disapointing indeed.

[Edited 2013-08-29 14:20:27]
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:42 am

Quoting jmbarros12 (Reply 78):
TAM only flies to four destinations in Sao Paulo state.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this because the smaller airports in the area can't handle A32X class planes? I don't think GOL has any other destinations. I'm guessing AD does because they use E-Jets and ATR's...
 
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:37 pm

Quoting Reffado (Reply 79):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this because the smaller airports in the area can't handle A32X class planes?

Maybe, but there some destinations that can handle these kind of aircrafts, such as Araçatuba, Bauru, Presidente Prudente, São José dos Campos and Sorocaba.
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RE: Brazilian Aviation News 15

Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:04 pm

The airports in São Paulo state that can handle 737/A320 are:
CGH, GRU, VCP, RAO, SJP, JTC, SJK and PPB. Gol and/or TAM serves all those destinations (excepet SJK).
The only stations Azul has monopoly are ARU and MII, which can't sustain larger equipments.

There's also a discussion going on if Barretos airport (BAT) will gain services the next few months.

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