American Eagle ERJ175: Delivery Date & Routing

A388 · Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:08 pm

Hello All,

I saw the first photo has emerged of American Eagles Republic Airways first ERJ175. Does anyone know when the delivery date is and what routing it will follow from Brazil to the United States?

Cheers,

A388

AeroWesty · Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:25 pm

Folks, the OP isn't asking where these planes will be flown in regular service, but what route they will take for delivery flights from Brazil to the U.S.

I'm guessing he's hoping for a stopover in Curacao, based upon previous posts and his location.

blink182 · Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:11 am

To answer the question asked:

Could an empty, fuel laden E175 do CCS-ORD or Brazil-MEX-ORD? Or would there need to be a second stop?

egph · Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:08 am

Just mucking about with a few routes from Sao Jose dos Campos to ORD and there would need to be 2 stops. It could only be done with one intermediate stop if we were to say the aircraft could have a range of 3000nm+ (MTOW range is in the 2100 nm area).

1 stop SJK-MBJ would be 3123 nm then MBJ-ORD would be 1500 nm
2 stops SJK-CCS 2370 nm CCS-MEX 1930 mn then MEX-ORD 1460nm

prchan · Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:01 pm

If we consider customs procedures, immigration, etc., my guess would be one stop somewhere ir northern Brazil, such as MAO or BEL, then some point in the US (within the plane's range).

egph · Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:53 pm

Quoting prchan (Reply 4):

Thanks for those cities, at the time I made my last post I couldn't remember any Brazilian cities past Brasilia, Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, northern Brazil was just a blank to me

SJK-MAO-FLL-ORD would be a more or less straight line routing to Chicago and the longest sector MAO-FLL is 2100 nm (which is exactly the E175LR MTOW range)

A388 · Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:23 pm

Thanks guys. Please keep me informed about delivery dates and routing.

A388

A388 · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:39 pm

Does anyone have an update on the delivery date and delivery routing of the American Eagle ERJ's?

A388

gdg9 · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:50 pm

http://airlineroute.net/2013/04/15/aa-e75-aug13/

Service begins 1 August from ORD to ABQ, MSY and PIT.
MCI, MSP, YYZ, DCA, IAH, EWR, PHL, SLC and SAT come on afterwards.

viasa · Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:29 pm

Which registration is assigned to the first AmEagle E175?

N908AW · Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:31 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 7):
Does anyone have an update on the delivery date and delivery routing of the American Eagle ERJ's?

A388

Haven't found a route yet, but I am hearing the date is July 10th.

FutureFO · Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:10 am

The E75's are not going to ORD first. PHL & PIT are getting first routes. Then eventually opening ORD as a base.

bmibaby737 · Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:24 pm

Quoting viasa (Reply 9):
Which registration is assigned to the first AmEagle E175?

Purely speculation, but could the first E175 be N101NN which is reserved for American Airlines (Their first A319 is N8001N in contrast)

FutureFO · Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:37 pm

Actually if it falls under current run of registrations that are for the E75 it would be N139HQ. As we have 138 as the last 175 for US.

pilotpip · Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:26 pm

It will likely be in IND, PIT, or CMH before it enters service. Those are Republic's mx facilities. They do not have a hangar in ORD.

bmibaby737 · Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:53 pm

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 13):
Actually if it falls under current run of registrations that are for the E75 it would be N139HQ. As we have 138 as the last 175 for US.

Ah, yes was looking at reserved registrations for American Airlines and for some reason not Republic Airlines.

N139HQ is reserved for "Acuwings", likewise for N140HQ but after that none are reserved in the sequence...

However, Republic Airlines has reserved the registrations N400YX to N499YX so this is more likely to be the new E175s on order I think

brilondon · Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:32 pm

First of all they are not ERJ175s, they are E175s or Embraer 175s as per the Embraer website.

I was wondering when the first one will begin service and if I can book on it now? I hope that they are as comfortable as the E-Jets that AC uses on their lightly traveled trans-con routes. Do they have any IFE or connectivity

[Edited 2013-07-02 13:34:32]

FoxBravo · Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:14 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 16):
First of all they are not ERJ175s, they are E175s or Embraer 175s as per the Embraer website.

Actually the proper type name is ERJ 170-200. E175 is what Embraer calls it for marketing purposes.

brilondon · Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:31 pm

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 17):
Actually the proper type name is ERJ 170-200. E175 is what Embraer calls it for marketing purposes.

No where does it say that on their website and other airlines who fly the type all call it E175. They are not regional jets. AC and DL call them E175s.

N908AW · Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:02 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 18):
No where does it say that on their website and other airlines who fly the type all call it E175. They are not regional jets. AC and DL call them E175s.

It is type certificated as the ERJ-170-200. If you go to the FAA.gov page and click "Type Certificate Data Sheets," you will find the ERJ-170-200 STD and LR but there is no such type certificate called the ERJ-175 or E175. Just like there is no type certificate for the ERJ-140 - that is type certificated as a variant of the ERJ-135.

It's all semantics.

[Edited 2013-07-02 16:09:56]

bmibaby737 · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:55 am

Quoting brilondon (Reply 16):
First of all they are not ERJ175s, they are E175s or Embraer 175s as per the Embraer website.

Wrong i'm afraid.

Quoting brilondon (Reply 18):
No where does it say that on their website and other airlines who fly the type all call it E175. They are not regional jets. AC and DL call them E175s.

That is just how they are branded for the public, N908AW & FoxBravo are correct below...

Quoting N908AW (Reply 19):
It is type certificated as the ERJ-170-200. If you go to the FAA.gov page and click "Type Certificate Data Sheets," you will find the ERJ-170-200 STD and LR but there is no such type certificate called the ERJ-175 or E175. Just like there is no type certificate for the ERJ-140 - that is type certificated as a variant of the ERJ-135.

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 17):
Actually the proper type name is ERJ 170-200. E175 is what Embraer calls it for marketing purposes.

Just look how Planespotters.net list them
http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Embraer/ERJ-170/index.php

IE: Embraer ERJ-175LR (ERJ-170-200 LR)

brilondon · Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:11 pm

All right it seems I am in the wrong, thanks for the information.

A388 · Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:12 pm

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 15):
However, Republic Airlines has reserved the registrations N400YX to N499YX so this is more likely to be the new E175s on order I think

So N400YX and N499YX are the most likely registrations? Can anyone really confirm this? First delivery is July 10th as per reply 10? Is there more information on this date and on what delivery routing will be used? I'm still hoping for CUR. If anyone has contact persons at Republic Airways and/or American Eagle please send it to me via private message. We would really love to have these delivery flights in Curacao.

Cheers,

A388

bmibaby737 · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:58 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 22):
So N400YX and N499YX are the most likely registrations?

They've reserved N400YX *to* N499YX, so N401YX, N402YX etc. I've no inside information to say this is what they will use, just that these are reserved on the FAA register by Republic.

A388 · Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:33 pm

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 23):
Quoting A388 (Reply 22):
So N400YX and N499YX are the most likely registrations?

They've reserved N400YX *to* N499YX, so N401YX, N402YX etc. I've no inside information to say this is what they will use, just that these are reserved on the FAA register by Republic.

Thanks for the explanation bmibaby737. I'm still very interested in the delivery dates and delivery routing to be used so please let me know, should you come across any information. This goes to all the other members here to

A388

floridaflyboy · Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:58 pm

Quoting pilotpip (Reply 14):
It will likely be in IND, PIT, or CMH before it enters service.

The airplane will be in IND on July 27 for an employee open house. Not sure if they're flying it in that morning or the night before, though.

ThePinnacleKid · Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:30 pm

Actually **most** of you guys are all wrong on the type:

OFFICIALLY it is opposite of what most think:

The ERJ-145 family (as known to the public) is type certificated as:

EMB-135ER
EMB-135KE
EMB-135KL
EMB-135LR
EMB-145EP
EMB-145ER
EMB-145LR
EMB-145MP
EMB-145MR
EMB-145XR
EMB-145

The EMB-170 family (as known to public) is type certificated as:

ERJ 170-100 LR
ERJ 170-100 SE
ERJ 170-100 STD
ERJ 170-100 SU
ERJ 170-200 LR
ERJ 170-200 STD
ERJ 170-200 SU
ERJ 190-100 ECJ
ERJ 190-100 IGW
ERJ 190-100 LR
ERJ 190-100 STD
ERJ 190-200 IGW
ERJ 190-200 LR
ERJ 190-200 STD

Sooooooo... basically the ERJ is the EMB and the EMB is the ERJ.

Here's the FAA's type specs:

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...keModel.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet

[Edited 2013-07-03 14:31:46]

[Edited 2013-07-03 15:10:06]

FoxBravo · Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:38 pm

Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 26):
Actually you guys are all wrong on the type:

For the record, I wasn't wrong...

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 17):
Actually the proper type name is ERJ 170-200.

ThePinnacleKid · Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:11 pm

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 27):
For the record, I wasn't wrong...

True FoxBravo... I meant in their responses to calling you wrong, one then listed the EMB-145 as the ERJ-145 which made his wrong.. and then of course the one who called you wrong for the ERJ-170 obviously was wrong... and yeah.. at the end of the day, you obviously are correct as well. Sorry 'bout that

A388 · Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:12 am

Quoting floridaflyboy (Reply 25):
The airplane will be in IND on July 27 for an employee open house. Not sure if they're flying it in that morning or the night before, though.

So when will the delivery date be and what will the delivery routing be? I've read a few replies saying when the first commercial flight will be and open house but yet no one seems to know the delivery date and delivery routing. What am I missing here. Surely someone must know this information by now, I assume...

A388

loggat · Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:00 pm

The first point of US arrival is usually FLL for RAH new birds. How it gets there I don't recall. Usually 1 stop between the SJK and FLL. Don't remember where it is. I've flown with one of the pilots that does the delivery flights.

After FLL, the aircraft will most likely fly to PIT or IND to be readied for revenue service. If I had to guess, I would say PIT as that's where the 190's were taken to be readied for service.

TUSAA · Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:37 am

AMR is close to a order for approx. 60 CRJ900s and or E175s.

A388 · Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:53 pm

Quoting loggat (Reply 30):
The first point of US arrival is usually FLL for RAH new birds. How it gets there I don't recall. Usually 1 stop between the SJK and FLL. Don't remember where it is. I've flown with one of the pilots that does the delivery flights.

Thanks loggat. Can you find out through the pilot you know how the American Eagle ERJ170's are routed from Brazil to the U.S.?

A388

FoxBravo · Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:54 pm

Quoting loggat (Reply 30):
Usually 1 stop between the SJK and FLL.

MAO seems like a strong possibility. It's directly on a straight line between SJK and FLL, and there are photos in the database of delivery flights that have stopped there en route to the US:

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uberflieger · Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:09 pm

Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 26):

are these registrations universal? or used to comply with FAA regulations and possibly different in other countries?

thanks

ThePinnacleKid · Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:19 am

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 34):
are these registrations universal? or used to comply with FAA regulations and possibly different in other countries?

thanks

They Type Certificates are issued by the governing bodies.. so EASA, FAA, etc.... as to the name though... Embraer is the one who applies for that name/type certificate.. so it will by (default) be universal...

The EASA site:
http://www.easa.europa.eu/certification/type-certificates/aircraft.php

Even there the 190 is the ERJ 190 and the 145 is the EMB 145

Here again you can find them on CASA (Australia's):

http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD::pc=PC_93273#e

[Edited 2013-07-05 19:23:29]

loggat · Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:49 am

That's the guy I flew with sitting right seat in the red shirt in the US Airways plane in the picture above. So there you have your answer. SJK-MAO-FLL-PIT/IND will be the likely routing.

uberflieger · Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:40 pm

Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 35):

great links & info

thanks

FoxBravo · Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:13 pm

Quoting loggat (Reply 36):
That's the guy I flew with sitting right seat in the red shirt in the US Airways plane in the picture above.

Haha--that's awesome! Wonder if he knows he's on a.net...

N908AW · Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:31 pm

FYI I was snooping this morning and came across this on another site:

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/pho...pr-eah-american-eagle-embraer-175/

The N-number is covered up but you can rather distinctly pick out the "401" on the nose gear door. So, N401YX it is.

A388 · Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:03 pm

Quoting N908AW (Reply 39):
FYI I was snooping this morning and came across this on another site:

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/pho...pr-eah-american-eagle-embraer-175/

The N-number is covered up but you can rather distinctly pick out the "401" on the nose gear door. So, N401YX it is.

Great so we have the first registration. It will be nice to have the complete registration list

A388

FutureFO · Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:47 pm

It will not necessarily be N401YX. It could just be a fin number like AC uses or how our CO E45's and CR2's were. Registration was one number and fleet number was something different.

Look at FL and their numbering system.

N908AW · Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:19 am

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 41):
It will not necessarily be N401YX. It could just be a fin number like AC uses or how our CO E45's and CR2's were. Registration was one number and fleet number was something different.

Look at FL and their numbering system.

Yes, of course. But N401YX (and as mentioned above, 400-499YX) was reserved by YX earlier this year, and I can't think of a 170/175/190 that RAH has that doesn't have matching tail/ship numbers (I believe some of the Delta have leading 8s on some of them). So yes, I made a bit of an assumption but at this point there's a pretty good chance it'll be N401YX. But no matter, we'll find out soon.

N908AW · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:41 pm

Here you go:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N401YX

Will operate as N401YX SJK-MAO-FLL and then RPA9901 FLL-IND, arriving in IND at 4:40 a.m. tonight.

TWA85 · Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:17 am

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 11):

This is not correct. AA has already announced the 175's will be based in ORD to start with. See the post below.

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 8):

FutureFO · Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:29 am

Quoting TWA85 (Reply 44):

We are going to initially fly the planes from our PIT base. Routing through ORD. This is per company information. ORD crew base opens Sep 1.

N908AW · Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:20 am

Quoting TWA85 (Reply 44):
This is not correct. AA has already announced the 175's will be based in ORD to start with. See the post below.

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 45):
We are going to initially fly the planes from our PIT base. Routing through ORD. This is per company information. ORD crew base opens Sep 1.

You're both right. The 175s are "based" in ORD, but that is a very loose term. They will rarely terminate there. For the first month the planes RON in PIT and MSY. Actually even when the crew base opens there won't be too many RONs in ORD, if any at all. Like FutureFO has mentioned, the crews will mostly come from PIT.

That being said I believe the first 175 flight is ORD-MSY on the morning of Aug 1 so I think the plane will ferry in IND-ORD the night before.

Woodreau · Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:24 am

Looks like the AE painted e175 will be in ORD at gate H3a for ramper training and a minor public showing off on jul 24.

AA767LOVER · Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:34 am

Quoting EGPH (Reply 5):

Wow, that's cutting it really close. We need to take into account whether fuel is sufficient for MAO-FLL. MAO-EYW is a bit shorter or SJU being the first Caribbean port of entry into the US as a US federal territory.

BlueLine · Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:28 pm

Quoting woodreau (Reply 47):

And it should be arriving at ORD tonight (July 23) around 8:00 pm.

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