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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:30 pm

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 37):
Considering that Boeing has already certified and tested the -8, do they need to do everything again for the -9 or can they cross-apply paperwork and whatnot?

Any component that has not changed should not recertification. That is why they plan on delivering it much quicker.

Quoting OM617 (Reply 38):
Silly question: I assume it has, or will have, the logos of the airline customers on the port side?

This just rolled off the assembly line. It is heading into the paint hangar now. This one will have NZ livery but not for a couple months. Expect it to have Max livery until then.

Quoting a380787 (Reply 43):
Let's hope airlines will really utilize this plane to open up exciting new long-n-thin routes (e.g. NRT-SAN) instead of just improving yield of existing 77E services

I think the -8 will be for the new routes. This one will be for long routes. The -10 will be for 'regional' trunk routes.

Quoting glideslope (Reply 47):
How many seats can a carrier put in this frame in a high density configuration?

Right now the 787 has a max capacity of 381. The 77E with four doors has a max of 440. The highest seat count of 788 operators is 335. If you add 20 feet that is almost 8 rows of coach or 72 seats. Adding 7 rows is 398 seats. We may see high density 789 on Japanese domestic routes to replace their 400 seat 772s

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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:42 pm

The 789 looks like the future work horse for DL Intl flights.... hope so! I can already see the DL logo on this beauty  
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:55 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 51):
Quoting OM617 (Reply 38):Silly question: I assume it has, or will have, the logos of the airline customers on the port side?
This just rolled off the assembly line. It is heading into the paint hangar now. This one will have NZ livery but not for a couple months. Expect it to have Max livery until then.

I was thinking of something like this:


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...but now I've seen the video you just posted and they are not there. Thanks for the video post!   

It will indeed look nice in the updated NZ livery!

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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:57 pm

We know that the laws of aerodynamics are the same in Toulouse as in Seattle, so how come the nose of the 787 looks superb, while the A350 front end looks so awkward? I suppose the A350 inherited some of those looks from the A380...

The 787-9 looks superb...only this week I got a close-up of the first BA 787-8, and it looked fantastic, but the -9 is perfectly proportioned.
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:58 pm

Perfect! The 787-9, IMO, looks like the most well-proportioned Dreamliner.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 25):
The aircraft will apparently be wearing the MAX livery.

Isn't that just the new Boeing house livery?
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:00 pm

It's starting to look right. Certainly better than the A350.

Natural winglets through wingflex > forced contrived shark fins 

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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:00 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 3):

100% agreed.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:02 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 9):

I so wish we had a 'like' feature on this site.

Absolutely agree... the 757 (and VC-10) are my all time favourites. This may be up there too.
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:06 pm

Quoting OM617 (Reply 54):

Makes sense now. I am thankful for not saying what I was going to say...Figured I was missing something

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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:10 pm

Quoting flyingcello (Reply 55):
We know that the laws of aerodynamics are the same in Toulouse as in Seattle, so how come the nose of the 787 looks superb, while the A350 front end looks so awkward? I suppose the A350 inherited some of those looks from the A380...

There are many ways to Rome. There is a thread in tech / ops which explains both philosophy of Airbus and Boeing.

Quoting ghifty (Reply 56):
Perfect! The 787-9, IMO, looks like the most well-proportioned Dreamliner.

The -8 always looked a bit cartoonish, the -9 looks definitely better but the -10 will be the best looking 787 IMO.

Quoting ghifty (Reply 56):
Isn't that just the new Boeing house livery?

It is.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 37):
Considering that Boeing has already certified and tested the -8, do they need to do everything again for the -9 or can they cross-apply paperwork and whatnot?

They won't, that's why flight testing will only take 6 months.

Quoting OM617 (Reply 54):
It will indeed look nice in the updated NZ livery!

Which one do you prefer?

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Air-NZ-white-livery-press.jpg

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Air-NZ-black-livery-press.jpg

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 51):
This just rolled off the assembly line. It is heading into the paint hangar now. This one will have NZ livery but not for a couple months. Expect it to have Max livery until then.

ZB001 should be delivered to NZ in October or November 2014, the airframe will need refurbishment first.

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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:12 pm

Yep, that's one damn fine-looking plane. Where the -8 comes up just a tad short, the -9 hits a home run. The added length and resulting boost in proportions, at least to me, makes the nose less of a factor. It's still a shape that I'm getting used to, but here, I say they've got one pretty girl rolled out. Not going on my "sexiest airliners" list yet, but it's definitely up for consideration.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:21 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 3):
Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 1):
A much better proportioned airplane IMHO, the 787-8 looks a bit too stubby



Same feeling I had when the 763 rolled out. Nice looking plane
Quoting AA777 (Reply 5):
Looks awesome! Definitely agree. The added size makes it look more substantial. Congrats to Boeing!

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Quoting OA412 (Reply 24):
Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 1):
A much better proportioned airplane IMHO, the 787-8 looks a bit too stubby.

That was my first thought too.

I totally agree with alll of you!!! The 787-9 is a better proportioned aircraft in my opinion too and even though I'm an Airbus fan, I do like this 787-9 better compared to the A350-900. I still need to get used to that new Airbus nose on the A350. Even so, they will both be excellent aircraft, I'm sure!!! In the end its the economics of the aircraft that counts, especially in today's environment.

Nice work Boeing and good luck with the certification process of this beauty!!! She is splendid!!!

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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:40 pm

Small non topic comment.

But I just love how they continue to use the same font from the days of the 707 (perhaps even before? Anyone know?)
Yet, it still looks just at home on the 787s tail as it does on the 707.

And to get back on topic, I echo comments of many here, the 9 looks better balanced in length, width and height. Magnificent looking machine.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:22 pm

I'd have to say that is, hands down, the finest looking airliner right now. Hot damn, tongue is a draggin and eyeballs are completely popped out of the noggin.

Now if she can overcome her little sisters bad habits all will be forgiven.
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:30 pm

That is one fine looking airplane! Best looking twin I've seen!
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:37 pm

Definitely is looking more beautiful. Nice plane.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:41 pm

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 46):
Quoting laca773 (Reply 41):
What is the length difference between the 787-8, 787-9 and the 763ER?

Per a quick Google search:

767-300 180' 3"
787-8 186'
787-9 206'

And to complete the picture:

767-400 201' 4"

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 60):
Quoting OM617 (Reply 54):
It will indeed look nice in the updated NZ livery!

Which one do you prefer?

I think black is too drab for an aircraft livery. Much prefer the old NZ blue livery.
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:47 pm

Does anyone know if Boeing will paint a "DreamLivery" variant on this frame? I know that the "Dreamliner" livery is very expensive to paint, but it just looks so friggin' cool!
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:02 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 67):
And to complete the picture:

767-400 201' 4"

And to further complete the picture, cabin-fuselage rations!

B788: .1018
B789: .0919
B78J: .0845

B762: .1037
B763: .0916
B764: .0819

Funny to see that people liken the 789 to the 764 when her ratios are actually closer to the 763!

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 67):
I think black is too drab for an aircraft livery. Much prefer the old NZ blue livery.

  
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:22 pm

A much better balance of proportions than on that of its smaller sibling. Looking forward to seeing this in NZ colours - even if it does have to be the new black and white scheme.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:45 pm

Beautiful aircraft. Lets hope the -9 doesn't have the problems the -8 has had.

Any idea when we will see her wearing Air Canada's colours?
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:59 pm

The Queen of the Skies must be jealous. WOW!
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:01 am

As expected she's a beauty! Improves on the already great lines of the -8.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:13 am

Really, really beautiful. The -8 always seemed too short, but the -9 is just perfect. Amazing lines! Have to say though, the lack of windows at the seams bugs me a bit. More noticeable on the -9...
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:20 am

The 787-9 now looks like a slightly longer 767-300(ER).
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:53 am

Quoting delta764 (Reply 52):
The 789 looks like the future work horse for DL Intl flights.

I think they will have to have a bunch of 788s to replace their 85 763s and A332 as well. Their number of A333s, 764s, and 772s (42) is half that. If you are anticipating 763s being upgauged to take advantage of the better economics of the 789 then I can see your point. Now we just need to see an order come in!

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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:58 am

Beautiful, absolutely gorgeous. She is definitely a looker!
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:17 am

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 15):
I have to admit, when it comes to looks, Boeing absolutely nailed it with the 787. Every single one, -8, -9 and -10 look just perfect to me.

Interesting... I think the 787-8 is almost ugly whereas with this bird, everything makes sense - in the same way as the A350-900 looks just so very good.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:27 am

Quoting laca773 (Reply 41):

What is the length difference between the 787-8, 787-9 and the 763ER?

The Boeing 763 is 53.7m and the 787-8 is 57m which in us is 176 feet and 197 feet. The 787-9 is longer still at 63m or 206 feet.

Quoting upperdeck (Reply 48):
She's no A350 but she's certainly an improvement on the -8

Yeah, not as ugly or weird looking as the A350.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:14 am

Quoting platinumfoota (Reply 72):
The Queen of the Skies must be jealous. WOW!

No, the Queen of the skies still rules.


No light twin will change that.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:35 am

Finally the 787 has a plane that is proportional. Love the fourth pair of doors just baack of the wing.
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:50 am

Quoting etops1 (Reply 11):

What AA has on order, is what AA will be getting. Their MOU/LOI was for 42 787-9's. When they placed their order, it switched to 12 787-8's and 30 787-9's. If anything, I could see them switching more -9's to -8's.

I too believe the 787-9 looks better than the -8. It's not just perception though, the 787-8 is literally stubby. It is one of the few large airliners out there that has a wingspan wider than the Aircraft's length. The others being the 747SP A330-200, A380-800 and possibly the A350-800 if it gets built. I think had the 787-3 been built, people would have not thought it was so stubby looking with the shorter wings.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:54 am

I saw the pictures on Tuesday. One of the perks of working with Boeing  
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:03 am

Nice plane, but I don't know if I like the proportions better than the -8. Need to see more pictures. The -8 looks like a short hot rod, and to me it's nearly the perfect length.
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:03 am

Quoting Max Q (Reply 80):
No, the Queen of the skies still rules.


No light twin will change that.

The Queen shall always rule. Just saying she might be jealous of the younger sleek looking member of the family
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:24 am

Great looking plane! Well done Boeing.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 84):
Nice plane, but I don't know if I like the proportions better than the -8.

I have to disagree, I find the -8 chubby and small looking. Its lacking personality and grace. -9 is looking way better!

Quoting brilondon (Reply 79):
Yeah, not as ugly or weird looking as the A350.

Cant you just like it without showing your hate towards Aibus?
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:50 am

Quoting Max Q (Reply 80):
No, the Queen of the skies still rules.


No light twin will change that.

The so-called "Queen" is DEAD. Accept it. And live on.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:08 am

Quoting Wolbo (Reply 22):
Not as beautiful as the A350

 Wow! Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder fur sure  
Quoting warreng24 (Reply 36):
Any idea if the -10 will be a 5 door?

4 doors.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 60):
Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 37):Considering that Boeing has already certified and tested the -8, do they need to do everything again for the -9 or can they cross-apply paperwork and whatnot?They won't, that's why flight testing will only take 6 months.

Well, let's hope so. Even for a new version of an existing model, 6 months is rather on the optimistic side. The 77L (11 months) and 77F (7 months) took longer, and those were argueably less different from earlier models than the 787-9.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:36 am

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 87):

No, the Queen of the skies still rules.


No light twin will change that.

The so-called "Queen" is DEAD. Accept it. And live on.

How silly.


The 747 is the Queen of the skies and always will be. It is a groundbreaking, revolutionary Aircraft that changed the industry forever, bringing affordable air travel to people that could never come close to buying a ticket before.


It was and is, magnificent, impressive and beautiful.



It is simply in a different league to any other Civilian Transport, no matter how much they change.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:37 am

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 88):
Well, let's hope so. Even for a new version of an existing model, 6 months is rather on the optimistic side. The 77L (11 months) and 77F (7 months) took longer, and those were argueably less different from earlier models than the 787-9.

Six months is for flight testing only, we must also add 1 month for certification, and another month for first delivery.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:37 am

Quoting brilondon (Reply 79):
Yeah, not as ugly or weird looking as the A350.

                 

I thought I was the only one thinking that the A350 looks like a badly quickly revamped A330 with ugly wing roots, poorly designed tail, ridiculous wing/shark-lets and an awful nose cone!

But stick with the thread, just a question of taste I admit, but to me the 787-8 is definitely the most beautiful looking 787, the -9 is already too long, and as Viscount mentioned, the proportions reminds me more of the 767-400 than the -300 version...
I love the 787 design, graceful bird, and a stretched version is already too much IMHO... But still it's a very charming bird.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:40 am

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 87):

The so-called "Queen" is DEAD. Accept it. And live on.

Ahhh... an Aviation killing its memories is dead anyway. I won't live with that.

The 747, from many prospects, was, is, and will remain the Queen of the skies, leaving no other room for any airliner from our era to impact commercial aviation as much as she did.

You should accept it, and live with it.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:41 am

Quoting Max Q (Reply 80):
No, the Queen of the skies still rules.


No light twin will change that.

Amen.
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:24 am

Quoting airproxx (Reply 92):
Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 87):

The so-called "Queen" is DEAD. Accept it. And live on.

Ahhh... an Aviation killing its memories is dead anyway. I won't live with that.

The 747, from many prospects, was, is, and will remain the Queen of the skies, leaving no other room for any airliner from our era to impact commercial aviation as much as she did.

You should accept it, and live with it.

A very very old Queen that still wears old-fashioned clothes. She has got an attemp to wear modern clothes but it was/is a failure. But her heart has still some time to keep the blood running through her veins. So yes, she is the Queen of the sky but as the 747 Classic is nearly extinguished and the 747-400 is being retired quite fast by many airlines and the 748 being a failure so far (may we say that?), the Queen gets old.....

I find the 747 indeed a true milestone in aviation but the 707 (first intercontinal jet), Caravelle (first short distance jet) and Comet (first civilian jet ever) were milestones as well. And the A320 *(first true FBW). And we can keep summing the 'firsts'.

Remember BTW that the 747 was initially not designed as a civilian transport plane.
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:51 am

Quoting holzmann (Reply 56):
It's starting to look right. Certainly better than the A350.

I can only strongly disagree with your observation.

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 88):
Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder fur sure  

And since that is true we can not really argue over how anyone "judges" the beauty of a design. I think the B787-9 looks fantastic, almost as beautiful as the A350-900.  .
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:38 pm

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 94):
and the 748 being a failure so far (may we say that?)

No, I dont think it should be called a failure at all. There isn't much room for VLA's in the market and the A380 took in the greater portion of the market share and was timed better etc. Despite low sales, I think its a beautiful aircraft that has had a seamless transition into service. I am glad at least LH ordered quite a few of them. I've heard nothing but excellent reviews by those who have flown on them.

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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:51 pm

Quoting ghifty (Reply 69):
cabin-fuselage rations!

What are cabin-fuselage rations?
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:55 pm

Its interesting because the 787 doesn't look much bigger than a 763, in fact its sleeker nose I think makes it look smaller around than a 767 appears. So It will be interesting to see how the 789 looks compared to 763 and also the A333. Maybe it's because they 787 appears to sit relatively low to the ground compared to the A330 series, in particular. I just was surprised about... what makes it seem so petite when really its a pretty big plane.
 
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RE: First 787-9 Rolled Out

Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:05 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 76):
If you are anticipating 763s being upgauged to take advantage of the better economics of the 789 then I can see your point.

We see AA doing that already. They are replacing their 763 fleet with a few 788s but more 789s. I expect DL to do much the same.

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Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos